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[ponyo]

And OP is dumb dumb who predicted death of both Apple and Tesla. Double stupid.

 

[ultimatebob]

If Steve was still around, Apple would've bought Tesla.

Apple usually doesn't buy up competitors like Microsoft or IBM does. I do think that he would have bought a Tesla Model 3, reverse engineered the hell out of it, and then released a self-driving "iCar", though

 

[ultimatebob]

And OP is dumb dumb who predicted death of both Apple and Tesla. Double stupid.

Predicting the death of Apple was considered to be a smart bet back in 1996. Not so much anymore

 

[ponyo]

Apple usually doesn't buy up competitors like Microsoft or IBM does. I do think that he would have bought a Tesla Model 3, reverse engineered the hell out of it, and then released a self-driving "iCar", though

No, Steve would've bought TSLA and brought Elon on board.

 

[ponyo]

Predicting the death of Apple was considered to be a smart bet back in 1996. Not so much anymore

When this thread was created, Apple was sitting on about the same amount of cash as it has now with $0 debt. You don't go bankrupt and die with $200 billion In the bank. OP was a dumbass. He posted similar stupid comments about Tesla. Like I said, he's a dumb dumb.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Apple usually doesn't buy up competitors like Microsoft or IBM does. I do think that he would have bought a Tesla Model 3, reverse engineered the hell out of it, and then released a self-driving "iCar", though

I just remember Apple at one point had some rumors of potentially making their car... I think it was codenamed project Titan or something?

Regardless, Apple has failed miserably at trying anything. They seem horribly inept at innovating these days.

Aside from the ORIGINAL creation of the iPhone, I can't think of a single notable thing they have done in the last 7+ years. Everything they "enhance" on the iPhone are features that are a year behind what was already implemented on Android competition.

 

[ultimatebob]

I just remember Apple at one point had some rumors of potentially making their car... I think it was codenamed project Titan or something?

Regardless, Apple has failed miserably at trying anything. They seem horribly inept at innovating these days.

Aside from the ORIGINAL creation of the iPhone, I can't think of a single notable thing they have done in the last 7+ years. Everything they "enhance" on the iPhone are features that are a year behind what was already implemented on Android competition.

Even the iPhone was an evolution of the Blackberry and Windows Mobile phones. It wasn't something totally new... it's just that Windows Mobile phones at the time were horrid and the Blackberry was more of a niche product for business managers who wanted to check their e-mail and stock quotes.

The iPad wasn't the first tablet, either. Microsoft had tried and failed to make a quality product in that market as well by trying to tack on touch UI elements to Windows XP and creating a disaster.

 

[FaaR]

Aside from the ORIGINAL creation of the iPhone, I can't think of a single notable thing they have done in the last 7+ years. Everything they "enhance" on the iPhone are features that are a year behind what was already implemented on Android competition.

A-series processors and A7 onwards especially (IE: 64-bit), Apple Watch, earpods. Short list perhaps, but who seriously innovates majorly in tech anymore? Essentially every device we use on a daily basis are very mature, and have been out on the market either for years and years or even decades.

It's all derivatives of derivatives, with small innovative features tacked on top of what existed before, like Google's AI-driven nightsight camera or whatsitscalled. It was good innovation, but HOW innovative exactly? Not revolutionary probably; phone cameras have existed before it, since more than 15 years in fact, and other phones could also take nighttime pictures, except not quite as good at it perhaps... So how do you quantify innovation? Very hard to do, it becomes more opinion than anything else.

Even the iPhone was an evolution of the Blackberry and Windows Mobile phones. It wasn't something totally new...

Ehhhh... iPhone WAS totally new, though (allowing for the fact other cell phones existed before it, of course.) Nobody had ever done a phone before which was entirely touchscreen-driven, no hardware keyboard, running BSD-derived multitasking OS with full-featured web browser (you remember browsers in phones at the time? Painfully slow, and terrible almost beyond description), and so on.

Smartphones as existed before iphone mattered little fundamentally from any other phone before them which had a dot matrix LCD screen; all cell phones are driven by microprocessors which run software, this goes back to ancient times (which is to say, the 1980s. lol) Oldfashioned smartphones just had (a bit) more processing power and a bit better graphics with bigger screens, more buttons (IE: hardware keyboard) compared to other oldfashioned "dumb" phones. They did not have the well-designed UI/UX which iphone in fact pioneered.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

A-series processors and A7 onwards especially (IE: 64-bit), Apple Watch, earpods. Short list perhaps, but who seriously innovates majorly in tech anymore? Essentially every device we use on a daily basis are very mature, and have been out on the market either for years and years or even decades.

You're kind of proving my point, no?

I didn't say that they haven't done a single thing - I said they haven't done a single notable thing. Apple Watch? Smart watches had already been around and it does the overall same functions. Earpods? Same thing, they weren't the first to make wireless earbuds.

I'm not saying they aren't doing anything, I'm saying they aren't innovating like they used to do one upon a time.


They still have a huge dependence on the iPhone last I recall, to the point where it makes up 50 - 70% of their overall revenue. https://www.statista.com/statistics/382260/segments-share-revenue-of-apple/

Were finally at a point where Smartphones aren't devices that start to become "too slow" after 1 - 2 years. Many people are keeping their smartphones 3-5 years now.

So I just wonder what their plans are as their main revenue source is going to quickly start going down.



Of all companies - At least other FAANG stocks are innovating and expanding. I just don't see much there with Apple.

 

[FaaR]

Earpods? Same thing, they weren't the first to make wireless earbuds.

Innovation doesn't mean "inventing from scratch".

If you go outside and start counting, how many people wear earpods versus any other type of headphone? I think you'll find the earpod is the most common type of earphone you'll find right now. And not because they include earpods with every phone they sell, because obviously they don't.

So is it by complete coincidence? No, because Apple innovated when they made it. They integrated functions and features well into their ecosystem, made the product stylish, small, light-weight, easy to use and gave it a good battery life.

 

[Stopsignhank]

I’m just glad my wife bought a thousand shares of Apple last month. Friday she opened up her phone and said “Did Apple go up 40 dollars today?”

 

[ElFenix]

a better mousetrap is still a mousetrap.