AAPL stock death watch?

FelixDeCat

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TIMBERRRRRR!!!!



Black Line - Rapid ascent on expectations

Yellow Line - Down trend off 20% so far

Red Line - Where the stock is headed IMO...back to $520 or below since APPLE recently disappointed investors



Update 01/23/13:

Apple off big time when Iphone 5 shipments disappoint -

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Another mixed bag for Apple today: solid revenue and a beat on earnings, but the stock is still tanking and is down more than 10% after hours.
Apple hit Wall Street estimates for iPhone sales, which were expected to fall between 47 million and 48 million following Verizon’s report. But Apple’s profit in the holiday quarter was essentially flat compared with the same quarter a year ago.


Despite refreshing nearly its entire line-up (the number mentioned on the earnings call was “80% of revenue”), Apple wasn’t able to deliver the kind of blowout that investors were hoping for. Apple is still the world’s most valuable company, but its upward trajectory no longer seems limitless.
 
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mmntech

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I think the Maps and iPad 4 thing have hurt them more than they'd care to admit. The iPad Mini also failed to impress fans and investors. They're losing loyalty among iPhone owners.

It's a classic case when you have a company built entirely around a single person. When they retire or kick the bucket it's all down hill from there. They either head down the tubes or they become bureaucratized, like what happened to Walmart.
 

mikegg

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Buy now. Once they announce Apple TV and take over the living room, it's going up to $1,000.
 

AnitaPeterson

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Good.

The sooner they get back to the "niche" status, the better.
Their influence on the industry is like poison.
 

AnitaPeterson

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Buy now. Once they announce Apple TV and take over the living room, it's going up to $1,000.

In your dreams.

In order for AppleTV to be a success, it needs to be adopted worldwide, not just in the U.S.
Luckily, there's no chance of that happening. A 300 million-strong market, regardless of buying power, is still a drop in the bucket compared to the world's 6 billion people.
 

FelixDeCat

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Good.

The sooner they get back to the "niche" status, the better.
Their influence on the industry is like poison.

Amen sister. I use Windows Mobile on my 2007 phone and have not been able to upgrade because I refuse to use a phone that has NO STYLUS or uses an icon interface and cutesy buttons.

I want a serious OS like Win Mobile 5.1
 

lxskllr

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Good.

The sooner they get back to the "niche" status, the better.
Their influence on the industry is like poison.

I agree. Apple is a blight on computing, and is creating a generation of servants for the corporations.
 

FelixDeCat

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If I was going to play AAPL, I'd short it.

Im not short AAPL but I do own QQQ 65.50 puts @ .55 that expire next week. AAPL will trash the QQQs, causing it to go back to $64.xx and I will make an easy double.
 

mikegg

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Good.

The sooner they get back to the "niche" status, the better.
Their influence on the industry is like poison.

Yes because inventing the modern smartphone, changing the mobile world and setting a boom on startup companies through the App Store is like poison to the industry.
 

PricklyPete

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This is all very humorous. Let's file this away and bring it back out in a decade when it will likely be topical. Not anytime soon.
 

Imp

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They're still P/E of 15-20 ish, so priced closer for stagnation and as a mature company rather than growth. Not a bad thing. They'll have to give out dividends then.
 

mmntech

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Yes because inventing the modern smartphone, changing the mobile world and setting a boom on startup companies through the App Store is like poison to the industry.

Their influence has been positive on computing, I agree. I'm not sure I like the direction they're going though. I'm sort of playing wait and see with Windows RT.
 

AMDZen

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Yes because inventing the modern smartphone, changing the mobile world and setting a boom on startup companies through the App Store is like poison to the industry.

Don't listen to idiots around here. They are anti-apple only because its cool to be.

They have their place.

As to the news, this just means its about time to buy some stock for when it skyrockets again.
 

sigurros81

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Don't listen to idiots around here. They are anti-apple only because its cool to be.

They have their place.

As to the news, this just means its about time to buy some stock for when it skyrockets again.

:thumbsup: Someone that actually makes sense as oppose to all the jackasses who just spout out blind hatred for Apple
 

BassBomb

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Amen sister. I use Windows Mobile on my 2007 phone and have not been able to upgrade because I refuse to use a phone that has NO STYLUS or uses an icon interface and cutesy buttons.

I want a serious OS like Win Mobile 5.1

So you want a piece of shit OS and phone?? Nice!
 

AMDZen

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Their influence has been positive on computing, I agree. I'm not sure I like the direction they're going though. I'm sort of playing wait and see with Windows RT.

Its been positive in the mobile arena, not so much on computing in general. The iPhone is the only reason we have so many great Android devices to go along with them, along with the death of Blackberry, thank god for that.

However, their influence is also negative because now Microsoft is trying to be like Apple with Win 8 and their new Win 8 Mobile OS which is nauseating. So in the long run, they have had a very negative impact as well. MS should be doing their own thing and not trying to be like Apple which they fail miserably at.
 

lxskllr

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:thumbsup: Someone that actually makes sense as oppose to all the jackasses who just spout out blind hatred for Apple

Eben Moglen said:
Isaac Asimov was a great New Yorker, I was privileged to grow up in his city while he lived here and bump into him every once in a while. As you know from the Foundation trilogy he had really at the bottom a very gemutklich sense about all of this. Trantor was really the grand concourse and good Jewish family values were really enough to save the galaxy. Unfortunately this was the visionary part of the science fiction, and it isn’t true. It was much easier to get people to hang robots around the necks of their children than anybody ever imagined. And it didn’t require any promise that they would never never never harm anybody, all it required was little shiny things, made by count Dracula the king of the undead.

The purpose of the undead as you know, is to make evil beautiful. That’s what the undead do. They turn evil into something so erotically attractive, you can’t keep your hands off it, and you don’t mind having its hands on you. And he did that, the king of the undead. He’s dead now but they didn’t throw his boot into the Danube and there was no silver bullet, and there was no stake through the heart, and the undead still are with us. They’re improving the screen and such like, until another king of the undead who can build damned beautiful things is ready, but that’s all it took. And now we put those things around our children’s necks and we send them off to be harmed, by the robot, with whom they live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY43zF_eHu4
 

mugs

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Its been positive in the mobile arena, not so much on computing in general. The iPhone is the only reason we have so many great Android devices to go along with them, along with the death of Blackberry, thank god for that.

However, their influence is also negative because now Microsoft is trying to be like Apple with Win 8 and their new Win 8 Mobile OS which is nauseating. So in the long run, they have had a very negative impact as well. MS should be doing their own thing and not trying to be like Apple which they fail miserably at.

If Microsoft is trying to imitate Apple, they're doing a bad job of it.
 

AMDZen

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If Microsoft is trying to imitate Apple, they're doing a bad job of it.

Thats ....... exactly what I said

"MS should be doing their own thing and not trying to be like Apple which they fail miserably at."
 

FelixDeCat

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Only a matter of time before it free falls in a capitulation sell off. People have been buying all the way down. Classic "falling knife" scenario.

$550 or below next week
 

sigurros81

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Thats ....... exactly what I said

"MS should be doing their own thing and not trying to be like Apple which they fail miserably at."

Microsoft had many opportunities to develop tablets, but they let Apple beat them to it with the iPad. The main issue with MS is that these days, they're reactive as oppose to being pro-active when it comes to developing new technology.
 

mugs

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Apr 29, 2003
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Thats ....... exactly what I said

"MS should be doing their own thing and not trying to be like Apple which they fail miserably at."

There is little in common between Microsoft's approach and and Apple's approach. You see that as them attempting to copy Apple and failing, I see that as Microsoft doing their own thing while incorporating some elements from what Apple has done. Which is what they should be doing.
 
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