Abercrombie & Fitch accused of discriminating

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brigden

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Originally posted by: CoolTech
I live in Chicago Suburbs and I have seen at least two black employees behind the counter ringing me up. But I have also noticed a sort of aura of your presence not being appreciated if you are not white. The catalogs, the bags you get when you purchase merchandise, and the huge posters in the store do perpetuate a ubiquitous white image. There will be a few token black guys/girls in the catalog, but for the most part, white. But, then again, who is their target market? Do they have a responsibility to present a diversified corporate image? I think so. Looks like this might turn into another Tommy Hilfiger or Denny's. Good thing light is finally being shed on Abercrombie for its far from peachy tactics.

Why on earth should a retailer be obligated to hire individuals from diverse ethnicities if their primary target market is comprised of a homogeneous ethnicity? (Keep in mind, I'm not advocating hiring white kids over other ethnicities when the latter are more qualified.)

There are more Caucasians working in A&F stores and more Caucasian models in A&F catalogues due to the obvious reason that Caucasians are the company's primary market. White people relate to white people.

I don't give a rummy rat's ass what ethnicities are represented at FUBU stores. I would not be surprised to see an all Black sales staff. I wouldn't be surprised, nor would I be upset.

If A&F want to market their products to one specific ethnicity, they should be allowed to.

The entire lawsuit is ridiculous. It is a perfect example of PC bullshite and morons out to make a quick buck. If I were the presiding judge I would throw it out.
 

StageLeft

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Man I can't wait until my lawyer gets me the papers back. I'm sueing black entertainment television for $15 million. No matter what i can't get a damn job on that network.
 

ggavinmoss

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Originally posted by: alphatarget1
they can market their products to whites, i don't care.

"Clothing retailer Abercrombie & Fitch hires a disproportionately white sales force, puts minorities in less-visible jobs"<--- this is bad

well, kinda like when you go into a panda express or whatever chinese fastfood restaurant you won't be able find anyone not asian at the help counter. I know some girl got turned down for employment because she's not asian but hell, some of the managers are dumb enough that they don't really speak english that well.

Just playing devil's advocate, but are you sure it was because she wasn't Asian? It may very well have been a lack of language skills (a perfectly reasonable skill to require if your entire kitchen speaks the same non-English language).

-geoff

 

LongCoolMother

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Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: CoolTech
Originally posted by: pulse8
Originally posted by: stormbv
Originally posted by: pulse8
Do they have a responsibility to present a diversified corporate image? I think so.
Why? If a company wants to sell their clothes to only white people, why can't they?

If a store wants to have a white-only bathroom, why can't they?

That's not the same thing, but if they wanted to, why not? As long as the government doesn't get involved and say that only whites can use the bathroom, if I'm paying rent some place I should be the only one to say who can and can't use the bathroom. If I'm a racist fvck and don't want blacks or hispanics to use my bathroom, I should have that right.

It's not a good thing that people think that way, but if it's their property, I think they should be able to allow whomever they wish onto it.

As for clothing, if A&F only want to market to white people, that's their choice.

ok, numbnuts, this is America. The land of the free, home of the brave. Not some third world country where noone has rights and you get your hands chopped off for stealing an ear of corn. We have something called standards and civil rights in this country. I suggest you read them, and unless it is a private dwelling or establishment, you cannot discriminate based upon race. Its as simple as that, no matter who initially paid for the building or merchandise. The shareholders pay for it anyway, and I am sure they are not all white. This type of situation also brings bad publicity which could in turn drive the stock price down. There are many stakeholders in a corporation.

So you believe in only giving people their rights if it suits you? Just because you don't believe in the same things people do doesn't mean they shouldn't have the right to believe them. Taking away the right of someone to practice what they believe, regardless of how you feel about it, goes against everything you've just spoke of. You're right, this isn't a third world country and people do have rights, but that also includes the right for people to not like certain other people.

At no point in this country should people be punished for what they believe. Employment is a different issue and I don't feel people should be discriminated against because of it, but as for private bathrooms and clothing lines, I think the company should be able to do whatever they want with it even if it does run it into the ground.

They have that right.


Jackass.

the only right you have, is the right to remain silent.
 

Lithium381

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i think they can hire whoever they want whenever they want if thats how they operate.....if they need a white person at the desk and a hispanic in the back.....well then.....it's like movie casting, the movie calls for a black dude, why don't white actors get all pisssed off about descrimination!? everyone just wants things their way and finds a way to sue over it if they dont'........
 
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Originally posted by: Lithium381
i think they can hire whoever they want whenever they want if thats how they operate.....if they need a white person at the desk and a hispanic in the back.....well then.....it's like movie casting, the movie calls for a black dude, why don't white actors get all pisssed off about descrimination!? everyone just wants things their way and finds a way to sue over it if they dont'........

iirc, if race has no being on the actual performance of the job, then it can be considered racial discrimination. It's hard portraying a white guy in a Malcolm X movie as Malcolm X, or Samuel Jackson as Hitler in a WWII era movie. Your nonsignificant example of movie casting is hardly discrimination.
 

imported_Papi

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Is nothing allowed to be for just one race?

Do you want me to share my dinner with you too?

Big deal. Holy some people cant just let shitte go.
 
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Originally posted by: yayo
Is nothing allowed to be for just one race?

Do you want me to share my dinner with you too?

Big deal. Holy some people cant just let shitte go.

Would you like your whites-only restrooms and diners back too?
 

Aboroth

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How about we start a network called White Entertainment Television and only show white entertainers and encourage pro-white viewpoints. We could also start an organization called "United White Person College Fund" and only give money to poor white people.

Oh wait, we can't do those things, because people would protest it and call us discriminating racists. After all, race-exclusive organizations are only OK if they aren't white.

Fucking hypocrites.
 

imported_Papi

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Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
Originally posted by: yayo
Is nothing allowed to be for just one race?

Do you want me to share my dinner with you too?

Big deal. Holy some people cant just let shitte go.

Would you like your whites-only restrooms and diners back too?


They they discriminated against women too, did you know that.... EDIT -The male models are affiliated with being gay. It's just tier some hearing about the same shitte over and over. Who gives a phuck if they are sexist racists. The world still goes round.




 

FatJackSprat

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Originally posted by: yayo
Is nothing allowed to be for just one race?

Absolutely.

There's Affirmative Action. (Affirmative Racism), racial admission preferences, government subsidized incentives for contractors, government subsidized small business loans, exclusive scholarships, etc.

Oh, you meant for the white race?

No, absolutely not.
 

Sid59

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Time for me to sue Phat Pharm, Sean John, and FUBU I guess.

that's a pretty pathetic and weak counter arugement. Neither of the above clothing companies own their own stores. They are sold through Macy's, Nordstrom, etc .. they don't have a say in the workforce.
 
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