Abit IP35-E Review (500MHz FSB board)...$90 @ NewEgg + $6.61 ship

[bigblockchevy]

i test ran 2x1g sticks of a-data 800mhz-EE with micron d9's and two sticks of corsair xms 800 with pro-mos chips for a total of 4 gigs adata on slots 1&3 and corsair on 2&4 .

4-4-4-12-22 @2v 800mhz --ran for days with no problems with the e2140@ 3.2g .


the only problem i see with running 4 x1 g sticks is that the slots are a bit too close if you have big heat-spreaders .

as far as this type of MB being sensitive to PSU--well i have used a number of units ranging from old tp450w antecs --550w TC antecs --550w antec tp-2.0's late model ultras and even a $20shipped fle-bay powerchief rated @ 650w but when tested only out out about 360w and has very low amps on the 12v rail. so far--the ip35e has been able to run without issues with all of them .

about ram -- i've had excellent results with corsair XMS with pro-mos chips , A-data 800 EE with micron d9 although i also think that a-data with pro-mos would work well, super-talent with micron d9 crucial with micron d9. these may require a bit of additional v-dimm but i haven't see a one so far that wouldn't boot up @ 1.8v-dimm and they have tons of overclock headroom .

these things just love micron d9's and pro-mos on the brainpower pcb--since you can get the good ram for about $15 more than the value stuff it is the ticket .

 

[imported_Husky55]

Originally posted by: hokiealumnus

Originally posted by: Bonesdad
rumor floating around that serpentroyal was banned from AT, true?

I've been in contact with Serpent and got his permission to post the confirmation. Unfortunately, it's true. He has been placed on, shall we say, administrative leave. It's not my place, so I won't go into detail here, but suffice to say the ban doesn't sound justified IMO when hearing his side of the story. That said, AT owns the forum and they can ban whomever they choose; it's just unfortunate they chose someone who has helped so many.

That is why I said he was on hiatus a few days ago. No one monitors this thread as often as he did, so if you don't get a response in a timely manner here, post over at abit's forums and the good folks over there will help you out. I'll do what I can, but to be frank I spend a lot more time over at abit's forums than I do here. Not to mention Serpent's knowledge dwarfs mine.

That's that. Regardless of what happened, his going away is AT's loss. He is a very smart, knowledgeable individual who helped a lot of people. Apparently he was just too blunt for certain people's fragile dispositions.

I absolutely agree. Speaking strictly from an impartial observer, I think the ban of Serpent was a very bad move by the Anadtech mods and admins.

Sure, Serpent took some shots at the Corsair PS although a lot of us do not have any problem with Corsair. But fact is some users did have a problem with the Corsair PS.

Serpent also trashed the OCZ memory. I do not have OCZ but some people have problem with them. I do have about 10 pairs of G. Skill HZ and Crucial to test and play around with . Really if it was not for Serpent and this thread, I would not be aware of the defective T04 transitor which caused the cold boot problem.

My feeling, not supported by any fact, was Serpent was banned for trashing OCZ and Corsair and their reps on this forum bitch about it.

May be Corsair and OCZ have a right to bitch about it, but let the truth comes out and let people voice their opinion. I now will think twice about buying ANY OCZ and/or Corsair products.

My IP-35E came during the Fall so I did not have a problem with cold boot until the weather turned this winter.

Anyway, I also visit the Abit forum support occasionally and Serpent does post there and he has been very helpful there as well.

isgust;

 

[imported_Husky55]

I defer to Hokie about posting Serpent handle. I have not been in contact with Serpent so I will respect his wish through Hokie.

 

[AmberClad]

Those of you who are wondering about SerpentRoyal's ban probably haven't been spending any time in the PSU and RAM subforums, where he's been quite "abrasive" to some other members from time to time, as someone else has put it. I haven't been personally involved in any of it, but I've watched from the sidelines, as it's been going back and forth for a while now.

Most of it involved him thread hijacking other member's help threads to post his anti-Corsair, anti-OCZ, pro-Kingston, etc views, even after being explicitly asked to leave those threads by the OPs. He also seems to have picked quite a few fights with the Corsair rep and JonnyGuru, including questioning their credentials.

Anyways, as far as the ban itself, I believe Yoxxy or someone else may have outed him for a previously banned member.

He was clearly helpful to a fair number of you in this thread, yet at the same time, he's also been the cause of a fair number of spats in the other subforums.

 

[hokiealumnus]

Ok, he has given permission to post his handle at the abit forums: Furballi.

This will also likely confirm the previous ban with AT. He was banned for the same reasons before. I concur the man can be somewhat blunt. To others blunt = abrasive. He does back his arguments up though and source them with good research.

Once, when an OCZ rep happened by abit's forums, I challenged him and requested he argue with Serpent/Furballi about why OCZ is better than he says it is; to technically hang with him and prove that their products are better. The request was met with silence. I have no respect for anyone who doesn't even attempt to respond to the criticism of someone saying your product is junk when a user of said product asks them to prove why it's not. I purchased my OCZ before I knew enough. It does what it says it will, and I'm not faulting the product. I won't be a repeat buyer though.

Basically, what it boils down to is that Serpent is an engineer (I believe) and isn't that great in the 'making people feel good' category. He's blunt, states his opinions and sources them. That's a poor reason for someone to be banned IMO. That guy above that posted a homophobic remark deserves to be banned. Serpent does not.

EDIT - Thought I'd also point out that, according to him, he never trashed Corsair's PSUs and thinks they are a fine product. He just argued that they were overpriced for what they were and that others can get the job done for less money. Like I stated before, this is from a third party who was not privy to the other threads; I'm just posting what he has said to me. Please don't jump down my throat if you disagree; I don't really care. You know his handle and can take it up with him.

 

[MrMajestyk]

Originally posted by: Heidfirst

Originally posted by: MrMajestyk
It also reports the bios as 6.00 PG. Dated 09/28/2007. Is this v.11 ??

No, that's 13 which you don't want (it has a problem with setting RAM voltage).

Thanks for that info. Now I got another problem.
I initially set everything up o/s the case to make sure I had no problems and apart from the double boot issue all was well, installed windows no problem.
Assembled all back in the case, booted, access/exited bios OK, re-booted, but now after usual double boot the CPU fan spins down and GPU fan spins at full speed. Case fans are spinning OK. Have reset CMOS, changed RAM, no avail.
Is this the PSU bug ??

IP35-E
Q6600
2x Crucial Ballistix 6400
EVGA 7900 GTO
Seasonic S12-500w

 

[MrMajestyk]

Originally posted by: MrMajestyk

Originally posted by: Heidfirst

Originally posted by: MrMajestyk
It also reports the bios as 6.00 PG. Dated 09/28/2007. Is this v.11 ??

No, that's 13 which you don't want (it has a problem with setting RAM voltage).

Thanks for that info. Now I got another problem.
I initially set everything up o/s the case to make sure I had no problems and apart from the double boot issue all was well, installed windows no problem.
Assembled all back in the case, booted, access/exited bios OK, re-booted, but now after usual double boot the CPU fan spins down and GPU fan spins at full speed. Case fans are spinning OK. Have reset CMOS, changed RAM, no avail.
Is this the PSU bug ??

IP35-E
Q6600
2x Crucial Ballistix 6400
EVGA 7900 GTO
Seasonic S12-500w

Ok. After further searching, this is not PSU related but a suspect transistor ? Funny that mine booted OK once but now fails.

 

[bigblockchevy]

if you are attempting to start your ip35e at temps below 63f you may have a problem with the t0-74 transistor located near the cpu socket.

you can test this by moving the computer to a warmer room or warming the affected area with a hairdryer on medium or low when the motherboard is at or above 17c or around 63f++ it will post and boot .

i have one ip35e that i placed a 5v resistor on top of the affected t04 transistor --plugged it in to a 5v lead spliced from a sata power connector .

rather than RMA another ip35e ==the MB seems to be fine now .

the other ip35 i RMAed had serious freezing problems in splash/post --not due to the t04 transistor.

 

[MrMajestyk]

Originally posted by: bigblockchevy




if you are attempting to start your ip35e at temps below 63f you may have a problem with the t0-74 transistor located near the cpu socket.

you can test this by moving the computer to a warmer room or warming the affected area with a hairdryer on medium or low when the motherboard is at or above 17c or around 63f++ it will post and boot .

i have one ip35e that i placed a 5v resistor on top of the affected t04 transistor --plugged it in to a 5v lead spliced from a sata power connector .

rather than RMA another ip35e ==the MB seems to be fine now .

the other ip35 i RMAed had serious freezing problems in splash/post --not due to the t04 transistor.

I followed instructions at Abit forums and did a long clrcmos/Battery out and seems to be resolved. This is one picky board ! Just glad I don't seem to have the cold boot issue.

I've got the 13 bios, which is supposed to be not too good. Is 12 or 14 the one to flash to. ?

 

[TungFree]

TungFree
What Motherboard are you using?

MadScientist:
Same as yours, Abit IP35-E. My ram is different, Crucial Balliistix DDR800 rated at 4-4-4-12-2T, 800 Mhz, 2.2Vdimm, so my ram overclocks will be different than your Kingston. I'm also using 4 sticks.

How can you set Vcore at values that are so fractional? and I quote you
"...I am running at 3.3Ghz at 1.2575Vcore with low temps in the low 50ies "

My Bios is #12 and I cannot do the kind of fractional values you set, unless there is a way to input them that I have not learned how. I, too, am running with low temps in the low 50ies, but cannot even run at below 1.320 Vcore the Default lowest value.

I printed out your help File, and
I can only Set them by clicking a rounded value and nothing under default 1.300
1300
1320
1340
1360

I am testing each value about 20 minutes.
I am testing the first part as you suggested. Kept upping the Ghz and it looked promising until at 1.32 MHZ it crashed with Vcore at default 1.300 So upped it to the next possible value:
1.320 at 1.303Ghz it fatal errored and I had to up it to the only possible value of:
1.340V Vcore I am running it now one hour and no crash nor error yet will update

Have left Ram at 5-5-5-15-2T 1:1 1.8V Dram

 

[MrMajestyk]

Originally posted by: MrMajestyk

Originally posted by: bigblockchevy




if you are attempting to start your ip35e at temps below 63f you may have a problem with the t0-74 transistor located near the cpu socket.

you can test this by moving the computer to a warmer room or warming the affected area with a hairdryer on medium or low when the motherboard is at or above 17c or around 63f++ it will post and boot .

i have one ip35e that i placed a 5v resistor on top of the affected t04 transistor --plugged it in to a 5v lead spliced from a sata power connector .

rather than RMA another ip35e ==the MB seems to be fine now .

the other ip35 i RMAed had serious freezing problems in splash/post --not due to the t04 transistor.

I followed instructions at Abit forums and did a long clrcmos/Battery out and seems to be resolved. This is one picky board ! Just glad I don't seem to have the cold boot issue.

I've got the 13 bios, which is supposed to be not too good. Is 12 or 14 the one to flash to. ?

This is wierd.

To get the board to boot requires a full clrcmos and battery removal. Then if you restart in windows it goes into all fans spinning except cpu fan routine and wont post. I'm hoping this is the crappy 13 bios. Going to flash to 14.

 

[bigblockchevy]

i started out with bios 12 then went to bios 14 series--then went back to 12 because the MB would lose over clock settings after powering off the PSU . 12 does double start on a power up after the PSU is turned off or a re-setting anything in the bios . 14 supposedly fixes that --but adds the loss of the settings if the PSU isn't powered up all the time . 12 and 14 are stable . i think i like 12 the best . either can over clock well .

you will like 12 if you understand that the double start thing is sort of a p35 chip set thing sort of like a global re-set on a 965p. on my ip35e if it double starts from a cold power up --that means it is going to boot up and run fine.

i am sure there is going to be another bios for this MB.--they are due for a new one with some fixes and support for the 45nm wolfdales and the 45nm quads.

i would try bios 12 and give it plenty of time to do it"s dual-start routine and see if it will fully start cold.

 

[MadScientist]

Originally posted by: TungFree

TungFree
What Motherboard are you using?

MadScientist:
Same as yours, Abit IP35-E. My ram is different, Crucial Balliistix DDR800 rated at 4-4-4-12-2T, 800 Mhz, 2.2Vdimm, so my ram overclocks will be different than your Kingston. I'm also using 4 sticks.

How can you set Vcore at values that are so fractional? and I quote you
"...I am running at 3.3Ghz at 1.2575Vcore with low temps in the low 50ies "

My Bios is #12 and I cannot do the kind of fractional values you set, unless there is a way to input them that I have not learned how. I, too, am running with low temps in the low 50ies, but cannot even run at below 1.320 Vcore the Default lowest value.

I printed out your help File, and
I can only Set them by clicking a rounded value and nothing under default 1.300
1300
1320
1340
1360

I am testing each value about 20 minutes.
I am testing the first part as you suggested. Kept upping the Ghz and it looked promising until at 1.32 MHZ it crashed with Vcore at default 1.300 So upped it to the next possible value:
1.320 at 1.303Ghz it fatal errored and I had to up it to the only possible value of:
1.340V Vcore I am running it now one hour and no crash nor error yet will update

Have left Ram at 5-5-5-15-2T 1:1 1.8V Dram

Just checking if we are on the same page.
In the bios in Softmenu Setup set "Voltage Control" from Default to Manual. In "CPU Core Voltage" it should give you voltage options out to 4 places, i.e., 1.2375, 1.2575, 1.2975, 1.3375, 1.3575, etc.

 

[hokiealumnus]

Huh. Mine only goes to three places, i.e. 1.325v is default/vid, I'm running at 1.405v. Maybe your Q6600 (I think that's what you have) has a VID with .0075 at the end instead of .005(0) like mine. Very intriguing.

 

[Heidfirst]

Originally posted by: TungFreebut cannot even run at below 1.320 Vcore the Default lowest value.

I printed out your help File, and
I can only Set them by clicking a rounded value and nothing under default 1.300

I think that you will find that your CPU's VID is 1.30V.
abit's recent BIOS set the lowest manually selectable voltage according to individual CPU VID.

 

[MadScientist]

Originally posted by: Heidfirst

Originally posted by: TungFreebut cannot even run at below 1.320 Vcore the Default lowest value.

I printed out your help File, and
I can only Set them by clicking a rounded value and nothing under default 1.300

I think that you will find that your CPU's VID is 1.30V.
abit's recent BIOS set the lowest manually selectable voltage according to individual CPU VID.

Well stated, Q6600 VID varies with each chip.
Here's a Q6600 VID poll that Graysky did on Bleedingedge's forum. Link My Q6600 VID is 1.2375vcore at the default speed that the MB sets it at, 272 FSB x 9 = 2.448 Ghz. The IP35-E has a vdroop between 0.03 - 0.05V. So in CPUZ my 1.2375vcore in bios reads 1.192v idle, 1.160V load. I read on one of the forums that the newer Q6600 batches have low VIDs, making them easier to overclock. It's the luck of the draw on what chip you get.

 

[sukhoi37]

anyone tried this board with the latest intel E8xxx series?
any compatible issue?

 

[hokiealumnus]

I doubt you'll find many (any?) that have. They're not out yet and the ES chips are generally tried by folks with more enthusiast-oriented (read: feature heavy) boards nn par with the IP35 Pro.

 

[The-Noid]

I have run an e8500 im an IP35-E and V. Seemed to work fine. CPU MicroCode is built into the new bios (13 I believe)

 

[TungFree]

OK MadScientist and hokiealumnus

MadScientist gave me settings ro try. when I began to reach the CPU GHZ 3.3 at 1.340 after 2 hours it errored and that meant I had to go to 1.360 which now pissed me off because I am doing all this thinking that 1.2575V is possible and I am missing a screw unable to set it at that. so I said to myself I can live with 3.20 Ghz and set the Vcore at 1.320 and it ran for 8 hours error free. I am totally exhosted and mind blown at the weeks and weeks I have been unable to reach a final value that either one of you or I I dissatisfied with.

I assumed we all have the same board and no one NO ONE ever corrected my values which are possible for Vcore in their Go stepping Q6000 on this IP35-E mother board. How many ways are there to input default Vcore values? am I wrong for having 1300 as the lowest Value? how can another overclock at 3.3 Ghz at a Vcore less than what my lowest is and I cannot go below 1.360?


I am staying with 3.2 GHZ!!! enough is enough. I am New to overclocking and I am given numbers that are impossible to set.

So given the CPU overclock is stable at 3.2ghz for 8 long hours. Can someone help me with the Memtest? which of the many tests ? all of them? what does 10 times mean in which test all the tests> if only test 5 and 8 then what do I type to run those two tests only?



Please someone read the below and restate it in small small steps without 6 options and statements like I teach math and 6 possible beginning settings in 6 places equals 6x5x4x3x2= 720 possible ways to try find errors.

Maybe my mind is spinning from all the testing and learning curve. Can anyone identify with me how it feels? I do not want to piss off anyone kind enough to help, but I am in pain truly from these help sessions because they are designed for someone who is an advanced overclocker not a novice. Like doing calculus at 3rd grade math. I have no idea what the Memtest (while I can see it isolates the CPU overclok by 6 times keeping it under 2.4 GHz makes sense) I also do not know what to set the settings at even if I reached the error in memtest then what to I set it to then and what do i try in Prime 95?

3. To find out what my ram is capable of I set my CPU to a 266 FSB and a 6 multiplier. This takes my CPU out of the equation. I start with my ram's rated timings, in your case, 5-5-5-15-2T, 1.8V I'm assuming. Start raising the FSB by 5 to 10 increments and run Memtest86 test 5 until it errors. You may have to increase the ram divider or CPU multiplier. Try to keep the CPU at or below stock setting. Increase the vdimm and repeat. With your ram I would not go any higher than 2.0 vdimm. This gives you a ram profile at these settings. Loosen the timings up to 4-4-4-12-2T and repeat. When you find ram settings you are comfortable with run Memtest86+ test 5 for at least 1 hour and all tests for at least 10 passes.
Here's some Memtest86+ stable settings I found for my 4 sticks of Ballistix DDR800:
3-3-3-8-2T.....734Mhz.....2.1V...1:1 divider at 367 FSB
4-4-4-12-2T....832Mhz....2.2V....Because I have 4 x 1Gb I had to raise the MCH to 1.29V for this setting.
5-4-4-12-2T....924Mhz....2.0V
5-4-4-12-2T....976Mhz....2.1V
5-4-4-12-2T...1018Mhz...2.2V
5-5-5-15-2T...1120Mhz...2.2V

4. Now it's time to consolidate. Set your CPU and ram to known stable settings. Run Prime95 V25.5 Blend setting for at least 8 hours. The Blend setting will stress both your CPU and ram. You may find that some ram settings that were stable in Memtest86+ fail Prime95 blend and you will have to adjust your ram settings. MemTest86+ is better than Prime95 at finding bad RAM but it isn't as good as Prime95 at stressing the CPU/RAM interface. Monitor your idle and load temps with CoreTemp.
As I stated earlier there is a debate on whether higher mem freqs, tighter timings, or whole integer dividers, i.e, 1:1, 1:2 are better for real life applications. I'm currently running at tighter timings, 3-3-3-8-2T at 2.1V, 1:1 divider.

Can you Say this in exact steps to try?
Try A with these following settings
Try B if A is not yielding what you need
Try C if A and B are not yielding what they should
Try etc till all the possible or fraction there of ways are yield the what I need toend thge testing and have a stable Ram overclock and remember I only have a lowest Value of Vcore of 1300 and Dramm Voltage begins at 1.8V

and has anyone tried 3-3-3-8-2T and why?
And why was I crashing when in former tries I set the Divider at 1:1.2 as suggested rater than 1:1 when do I try and set that at 1:2?


Summery: MadScientist, your help file took a long time to write and your valued time it took is commendable and I am grateful for the effort. But I am overwhelmed and I need little steps that assume I never overclocked before. Please excuse any feelings my confusion may have cased displeasure. I do not mean to be ungrateful, just I al lost in the 2nd part of the help and gave up on the first part to go to a stable 3.3 Ghz with anything under 1.360 Vcore so for a sacrifice of rolling back to 3.2 Ghz at least I am at 1.329 Vcore.

I am testing at 5-5-5-15-2T and a X6 286 without errors in Memtest. What should I set the memtest at, to test the ram overclock, or let it run for how long from start to end of memtest?

 

[hokiealumnus]

Whew...ok, I'll do what I can when I can for you. Here's the first installment:

1. MadScientist has four decimal places because his CPU's VID (which is the voltage the chip tells the BIOS to give to it as a default speed) just happens to have four decimal places. Yours has three. He's not manually inputting those values, that's not possible on this board. He has set steps just like the rest of us do and they probably go in .02v steps just like ours.

The IP35 series sets the default Vcore (and lowest selectable value on these boards) at the VID of the CPU that's installed. So, your chip's VID is the lowest selectable Vcore. While some will share the same VID, every chip is different and some will have higher or lower VIDs than others. Some say that a lower VID = better overclockability. That's one for more knowledgeable people to tackle.

2. YMMV. That's an acronym in the OC'ing community that everyone who attempts to overclock needs to know. Your Mileage May Vary. No two CPUs are the same, literally. CPUs get cut out of a much larger 'sheet' of silicone. There are theories that those closer to the center of the wafer are supposedly better than those on the outside. That's way above my knowledge level, but you get the gist, none are the same. What that translates to is that no two chips will overclock the exact same way.

Take the difference between Serpent's E4300 and my E4400. The only theoretical difference is that his CPU has a 9x multiplier and mine has a 10x. Yet, it only takes him 1.465 Vcore to run at 3.49GHz. It takes me a whopping 1.565Vcore to get to (and maintain) 3.5GHz. Does that anger me? No. Why? YMMV.

The only things guaranteed for a CPU are that it will run at the stock speed (in my case, 2.00GHz) within the voltage range set by Intel's specifications (in my case, 0.85v-1.5v). Anything above that is icing on the cake.

YMMV. That is the reason your CPU will not reach 3.3GHz at the same Vcore someone else's will.

Ok...that's all the time I have right now. Perhaps someone else will be kind enough to break down the RAM issue for you. If it hasn't happened when I get some more time, I'll do what I can for you.

 

[MadScientist]

Tungfree,
I wrote that small guide for my son, who is now the computer's owner, so it was basically a copy & paste. His 8800GT card (not from the aholes at Dell) finally came in. I belated Christmas present.
So now we have established that the VID of your Q6600 is 1.300vcore. I knew the VIDS of the Q6600 were not all the same, but assumed yours was closer to mine. It's pot luck with this CPU as to whether your going to get a good overclocker (low VID) or as in your case an average overclocker.

OK, so you have found a stable oc for your CPU at 3.2 Ghz at 1.340 vcore (bios?). What were your CoreTemp load temps at that vcore?

I'll try to simplify step 3. To run test 5 in Memtest when Memtest boots up, on your keyboard, hit C (Config), 1-Test Selection, 3-Select Test, Test Number:5, 0-Continue. Let it run (loop test 5) for about 1 hour or as SR suggested 50 loops. I believe this has already been posted on this thread a number of times.

I see from your post that you have started testing your ram at 5-5-5-15-2T, 1.8V. Follow step 3 to find out how high you can oc your ram at these timings. As you raise the FSB your CPU will approach stock settings, 2.4 Ghz at 1.300V. Try and keep the CPU at stock by increasing the CPU divider or the ram divider. As you increase the FSB you will reach a ram freq where it will not pass Memtest test 5 at 1.8V. Increase the vdimm and retest. My Crucial Ballistix is rated for 2.2vdimm, but I don't know how far you can push your Kingston Value ram. May want to post this question to SR, a.k.a, FB, in the Abit forum. I would stop at 2.0 vdimm.
The next step is dependent on how you want to run your ram, higher mem frequency, or tighter timings. If you want tighter timings then, as I suggested before, drop them to 5-4-4-15-2T, or 5-4-4-12-2T, or 4-4-4-12-2T and retest. This decision is entirely up to you. If you want the highest mem frequencies then stop at 5-5-5-15-2T. I opted to run at tighter timings, 3-3-3-8-2T, at 2.1V, and 1:1. At your current CPU setting of 3.2Ghz (356 x 9), at a 1:1 divider your ram will be running at 712 Mhz. At this frequency you may be able to run at 3-3-3-8-2T, 1.8V. Maybe?
Graysky presents a good case in his memory bandwidth test thread for running at 1:1 (synchronous mode). Link "I (Graysky) only saw a 2-3 % boost running in a faster asynchronous mode. Doing so however required more NB vcore and ICH vcore which meant more heat."

Once you decide how you want to run your ram and find a Memtest86+, test 5 stable setting, then run all the Memtest86+ tests for at least 10 passes. Boot up into Memtest86+ and let it do it's thing.

Then follow step 4. Set your CPU to 3.2 Ghz, 1.340vcore (bios?),and your ram to one of the stable Memtest86 settings you have decided on. Run Prime95 V25.5 on the BLEND setting. If it's going to error it will most likely be in the first 15 minutes and the cause is most likely your ram. If it errors, increase the vdimm or lower the mem frequency. You can also try increasing the MCH voltage a notch. I had to increase it to 1.29V to get my 4 sticks of Ballistix to run stable at it's rated 4-4-4-12-2T, 2.2V, 800 Mhz setting. With 2 sticks it ran fine at this setting without having to increase the MCH voltage.

I don't know how to simplify this any further. If anyone has any suggestions or I missed something please post.

Hang in there Tungfree and don't get discouraged. It takes a lot of hours and testing for overclocking. We are all sort of Noobs at this. I have been bouncing from Intel to AMD CPUs and back over the years and with each new CPU comes different overclocking techniques. It's a constant learning process.

 

[manimal]

Anyone running a HR 05 on the NB with a Tuniq? Wondering if it would fit.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: hokiealumnus
Ok, he has given permission to post his handle at the abit forums: Furballi.

This will also likely confirm the previous ban with AT. He was banned for the same reasons before. I concur the man can be somewhat blunt. To others blunt = abrasive. He does back his arguments up though and source them with good research.

That's him. If someone is perma-banned once, that goes for any username that person signs up under. Thus the #1 reason for his current ban is that he was previously perma-banned.

I would disagree about his "good research" though. For him hardware is like religion. You are either with him or against him, and he BELIEVES... I once got it on with him about ATX versus micro ATX and his parting shot (I gave up after that) was that the physically larger ATX motherboard results in cooler running CPUs because the extra 2.x" of PCB acts as an extended heatsink for the CPU, and he knew that because he's soldered on a board before and it absorbed a lot of the heat of his soldering iron. So, 2" of PCB around 10" away from a heat source can help cool it down? Uh, whatever.

Originally posted by: AmberClad
Those of you who are wondering about SerpentRoyal's ban probably haven't been spending any time in the PSU and RAM subforums
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Most of it involved him thread hijacking other member's help threads to post his anti-Corsair, anti-OCZ, pro-Kingston, etc views, even after being explicitly asked to leave those threads by the OPs. He also seems to have picked quite a few fights with the Corsair rep and JonnyGuru, including questioning their credentials.
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He was clearly helpful to a fair number of you in this thread, yet at the same time, he's also been the cause of a fair number of spats in the other subforums.

That about sums it up. He has his favorite components and if anyone dares to disagree, then he attacks.

I have been helped by him, since I own two IP35-E boards. I have also been attacked by him, since I favor the mATX form factor. I was not the one who "outed" him, though I knew about his previously banned status as of early December - I'm probably a lousy moderator.

Do I agree with the ban? Yes... in that it obviously broke forum rules. However, I don't really like bans in general (personal opinion, not voiced as a moderator). If it were up to me, I would let banned members stay... BUT... I'd visit them at their computer and whack them on the back of their head with a rolled up newspaper! :| Well, being that all the traveling would get too costly, bans are cheaper I guess.

 

[TungFree]

I posted my concerns at Abit as well and SerpentRoyal Posted a reply with a simpler approach.

I followed it and now my setting has changed a bit:
3.3ghz 367x9 1.360Vcore 2.05V Dramm 4-4-4-12-2T
In Memtest #5 both 1.95 and 2.00 Dramm Volts failed while they passed in Prime 95 preveously.

So I am sticking with 2.05V Dramm setting.