Abit IP35-E Review (500MHz FSB board)...$90 @ NewEgg + $6.61 ship

[SilentAssassin]

Is there a fix for the double post yet? I got everything running flawless on my IP35-E except for the double post now.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

CoreTemp can be off by 15C. If you're seeing 15C at idle, then add another 15C for the correct temperature. Corrected temps should be 30C and 36C, respectively. It's never a good idea to push C2Ds above 1.5 without water.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: SilentAssassin
Is there a fix how the double post yet? I got everything running flawless on my IP35-E except for the double post now.

No new BIOS or BETA BIOS to address the double post issue.

 

[kajko]

Where can I find a list of compatible memory for this board (ip35-E)? Many mobo manufacturers' websites list the compatible/recommended memory brands but I do not see this information anywhere on the Abit site. Am I just blind? THanks

 

[SerpentRoyal]

No list. Board works well with Kingston ValueRAM, Crucial, Super Talent, Patriot, and OCZ (not a fan of OCZ stuffs cause they are overpriced). If you have brand name memory rated at 1.8V, then there's a good chance that it will work with IP35-E. I would avoid Centon, PNY, PQI, and Rosewil.

Guarantee compatibility with those $20 HP DDR2 667 modules and these Kingston VRs:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820134117

 

[kajko]

Alright thanks for the quick response. I agree about memory being overpriced but I was actually able to pick up some OCZ for $90 (OTD), which is actually cheaper than much of the ValueRAM, so I figured why not. I just ordered the board for my new build...can't wait to witness the double boot lol. Now the wait for the e6750 to get closer to its projected $183 price point.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

You can get Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 for $60 to $70 AR. Much better memory. My slowest Kingston DDR2 800 stick is okay up to 580MHz with 2.1V and 5-5-5-18-2T timing. Why pay $183 for E6750 when you can get most E4xx0 up to 3.2GHz? Put the extra $ in the bank. Re-engage 45nm chips next year.

Just remember that you may need to pop in 1.8V RAM and set Vdimm to 2.1V before you can boot with the OCZ.

 

[AlucardX]

Originally posted by: kajko
Where can I find a list of compatible memory for this board (ip35-E)? Many mobo manufacturers' websites list the compatible/recommended memory brands but I do not see this information anywhere on the Abit site. Am I just blind? THanks

again.. this information is posted on the link i already provided, first page:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=147163

 

[Gepidae]

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal

Originally posted by: Gepidae
Ok guys ran into probs ocing. I cant seem to push my fsb further. Im still on stock volts. When I try to up my fsb to 1.4 something it still wont boot with fsb of ~460. What do you guys recommend? Im still on stock intel cooler. Temps are fine around 27, 24

Temps

Bump Vcore to 1.4 or 1.45. Also raise northbridge voltage up two nothches, and southbridge voltage up one notch. Even with the lowest 1:1 memory divider, your RAM is already pushing 455MHz. That's DDR2 900! Use CPUz to confirm memory speed. You may need to bump vdimm up to 2.2 and manually adjust timing to 5-5-5-15. Use Memtest to verify that RAM is stable at this speed.

You may have hit the FSB wall of that particular CPU. I also recommend people to avoid 7x multi. Too much stress on RAM and CPU. This board should be able to hit 488MHz.

So I did this and it doesnt boot. I gave my sticks of ram to a friend and he was able to run it at DDR2 ~1100 so I know it cant be a ram. I even put cpu volt up to 1.49, bumped SB by 2 and still no luck. I cant seem to go beyond 452 fsb. I thought maybe it was a strap issue to I pushed to 500 and still no luck. Is my chip a dud or what? I also have cpu vtt voltage and I have no idea what to do with that. I set pci-e freq. to 105 as well and still nothing.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Keep PCI-E bus at 100. You can bump VTT up two notches, Vsouthbridge up one, Vnorthbridge up two. Use CPUz to confirm that your RAM is at 452MHz with 5-5-5-15-2T and 2.2Vdimm. Did you run memtest to check the RAM in your rig? I've seen post of E6750 stuck at 3.5GHz. Perhaps your chip is stuck at the lower range of the overclock bell curve.

 

[Gepidae]

When I get back home Ill post the cpuz screeny of my ram so you can check me. Im not even sure how to set it at 2T, all I know is that Im setting it as 1:1. I will try what you recommend but what fsb do you think I should try? and I really hope to god my cpu isnt stuck at that point otherwise Im going to have to buy another e6550 and swap it with my current one and return it back to the local store =P

 

[sagis]

Hi All, this is a great thread, and i read through all of the posts here, looking for an answer.
I'm considering buying this board today, and i'm trying to get some feedback regarding using this board with crucial balistix ram (6400) ( which i already got )

There were some people saying that you *might* need to pop in a 1.8v rated ram in order to get the board to post, so you can change the voltage to 2.2v - can someone who actually tried this let me know if the crucial ram can post or not? I just don't have extra ram around, so i'd hate to get the board and see that it won't post with the crucial sticks.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

I didn't have a problem with these RAMs, but you should always plan for the worst when you deal with any RAM that's rated @ 2.0-2.2. A good strategy is to try to boot with one stick. If no go, then switch with the other stick.

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

Originally posted by: sagis
Hi All, this is a great thread, and i read through all of the posts here, looking for an answer.
I'm considering buying this board today, and i'm trying to get some feedback regarding using this board with crucial balistix ram (6400) ( which i already got )

There were some people saying that you *might* need to pop in a 1.8v rated ram in order to get the board to post, so you can change the voltage to 2.2v - can someone who actually tried this let me know if the crucial ram can post or not? I just don't have extra ram around, so i'd hate to get the board and see that it won't post with the crucial sticks.

I came across a thread on another board where the reviewer was able to get an IP35 Pro to boot at stock volts with 2.2V (Crucial Anniversary, same as Ballistix) and 2.3V rated RAM (Cellshock). The BIOS will likely use slow/loose auto timings to get it to boot at 1.8V.

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[sagis]

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
I didn't have a problem with these RAMs, but you should always plan for the worst when you deal with any RAM that's rated @ 2.0-2.2. A good strategy is to try to boot with one stick. If no go, then switch with the other stick.

Thanks for the suggestion. i got 4 sticks total, so i hope at least one of them will post

 

[ksource]

Wanted to let people know that mwave price for the ip35-e has dropped some $20+ and still has the $20 MIR that I am aware of.

This happened last night (I was checking the price, it stated 91.30 or so but added to cart it was 117 or so) then in the morning it was 91.30 or so added to cart.

Just thought I'd let some people know.

 

[sagis]

Originally posted by: ksource
Wanted to let people know that mwave price for the ip35-e has dropped some $20+ and still has the $20 MIR that I am aware of.

This happened last night (I was checking the price, it stated 91.30 or so but added to cart it was 117 or so) then in the morning it was 91.30 or so added to cart.

Just thought I'd let some people know.

Yes, it comes out as 100$ shipped, 20$ MIR = 80$.
It's listed as out of stock atm, but should be back in next monday according to mwave.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Already have one. I'll wait for $70 or lower.

 

[Kupe]

Originally posted by: sagis
Hi All, this is a great thread, and i read through all of the posts here, looking for an answer.
I'm considering buying this board today, and i'm trying to get some feedback regarding using this board with crucial balistix ram (6400) ( which i already got )

There were some people saying that you *might* need to pop in a 1.8v rated ram in order to get the board to post, so you can change the voltage to 2.2v - can someone who actually tried this let me know if the crucial ram can post or not? I just don't have extra ram around, so i'd hate to get the board and see that it won't post with the crucial sticks.

I have 2GB of Crucial Ballistix PC-6400, and haven't had any problems. I originally booted at 1.8V with the SPD timings because I didn't check everything out first. I had no problems with these settings though. I'm now running at 2.2V with the recommended 4-4-4-12 timings.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

It's always prudent to run the RAM at the lowest stable voltage. Use Memtest and S&M to check for memory stability.

 

[Gepidae]

Yup I think I give up. I tried all possible configs and it will not post over 451. I think Ill have to end up returning it and getting a e6750. Ill let you know how that goes. So here is the pic of the ram speeds:

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[sagis]

Originally posted by: Kupe

Originally posted by: sagis
Hi All, this is a great thread, and i read through all of the posts here, looking for an answer.
I'm considering buying this board today, and i'm trying to get some feedback regarding using this board with crucial balistix ram (6400) ( which i already got )

There were some people saying that you *might* need to pop in a 1.8v rated ram in order to get the board to post, so you can change the voltage to 2.2v - can someone who actually tried this let me know if the crucial ram can post or not? I just don't have extra ram around, so i'd hate to get the board and see that it won't post with the crucial sticks.

I have 2GB of Crucial Ballistix PC-6400, and haven't had any problems. I originally booted at 1.8V with the SPD timings because I didn't check everything out first. I had no problems with these settings though. I'm now running at 2.2V with the recommended 4-4-4-12 timings.

Thanks! just ordered a board, hope to get it early next week.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: Gepidae
Yup I think I give up. I tried all possible configs and it will not post over 451. I think Ill have to end up returning it and getting a e6750. Ill let you know how that goes. So here is the pic of the ram speeds:

http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ramspdag3.png]

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Back-off to 5-5-5-15 with 2.0 to 2.1Vdimm. You may be able to squeeze another 50MHz with a good chip. My Kingston VR is okay at 480MHz/4-4-4-12-2T/2.1V and 580MHz/5-5-5-18-2T/2.1V.

I normally don't waste time overclocking 7x or 8x multi CPUs.

 

[Kupe]

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
It's always prudent to run the RAM at the lowest stable voltage. Use Memtest and S&M to check for memory stability.

Just for power savings or cooling, or are there other reasons? I'm just running at 2.2v since that's what it says to use on Crucial's website.

http://www.crucial.com/store/p...ODULE=BL2KIT12864AA804

If I was going beyond 400 mhz, I'd certainly do some testing, but I'm not that ambitious.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

They all run HOT at 2.2V. The industry's standard is 1.8V @ 400MHz. Good chips can hit +550MHz with 2.1V. High temperature is bad. For optimum stability and performance, you should run at the lowest voltage while maintaining the same level of stability.