Abit IP35-E Review (500MHz FSB board)...$90 @ NewEgg + $6.61 ship

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SerpentRoyal

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It's a dinosaur drive by today's standard. It's best to replace HDD every 3 to 4 years if you want to minimized sudden death syndrome. That said, the drive should work if your zero format the data before use.
 

CRXican

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Figured I'd chime in as I built a system with this motherboard last weekend.

It's up and running great along with a Corsair HX620. Seems those compatibility issues were quite limited as Corsair suggested.

I do have the super duper double boot though
 

TungFree

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I agree it is a dinasoure and I hope the brand new
500 gig 1 x (10005376) SAMSUNG HD501LJ 500GB SATA 7200 RPM 16MB Hard Drive Bulk will work.
Samsung Hard drive is coming with the Gigabyte GZ-FA1CA-ASB 3D Aurora 570 Aluminum Full Tower Case w/Multi-functional Window (Black) Retail and
the Antec EA500 EarthWatts series 500W Power Supply you recommended.
I borrowed a floppy drive and 3 used floppies I will later test them.

I only need the dinasoure Maxtor as a temporary measure to insure the mother board needs not be RMAed.
But I still am not sure what software to use for zero filling the drive. I will need to reread some tutorials, it all slipped my older mind.
Any detailed help link or steps will be wonderful.

 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: CRXican
Figured I'd chime in as I built a system with this motherboard last weekend.

It's up and running great along with a Corsair HX620. Seems those compatibility issues were quite limited as Corsair suggested.

I do have the super duper double boot though


Double post fixed with 14 BIOS found near the bottom of my 1st post.
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: TungFree
I agree it is a dinasoure and I hope the brand new
500 gig 1 x (10005376) SAMSUNG HD501LJ 500GB SATA 7200 RPM 16MB Hard Drive Bulk will work.
Samsung Hard drive is coming with the Gigabyte GZ-FA1CA-ASB 3D Aurora 570 Aluminum Full Tower Case w/Multi-functional Window (Black) Retail and
the Antec EA500 EarthWatts series 500W Power Supply you recommended.
I borrowed a floppy drive and 3 used floppies I will later test them.

I only need the dinasoure Maxtor as a temporary measure to insure the mother board needs not be RMAed.
But I still am not sure what software to use for zero filling the drive. I will need to reread some tutorials, it all slipped my older mind.
Any detailed help link or steps will be wonderful.

You can go to the Maxtor website to download a zero fill utility.
 

sukhoi37

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sorry for the late reply.
not really active in this forum =P

yeah, i was on 13 bios, win xp(samsung sata 160gb) before i install the new vista ultimate on the raptor.
the installation stucked in the final stage.
after reboot, the boot up screen didn't show the raptor but took quite a long time to detect the old sata 160gb.
After that i unplugged the raptor and plugged in only the samsung hdd(with win xp) and boot without problem.
i flashed the 14 bios in winxp and redo the vista installtion...the result turn out to be successful.


hope these info will help. =)
 

SerpentRoyal

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It's possible to load windows to the Raptor after you've zero filled the HDD. That said, the BIOS must see the HDD before one can attempt to install the OS.

For best performance, always connect one HDD to the MB when you install the OS.
 

TungFree

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Originally posted by: TungFree
I agree it is a dinasoure and I hope the brand new
500 gig 1 x (10005376) SAMSUNG HD501LJ 500GB SATA 7200 RPM 16MB Hard Drive Bulk will work.
Samsung Hard drive is coming with the Gigabyte GZ-FA1CA-ASB 3D Aurora 570 Aluminum Full Tower Case w/Multi-functional Window (Black) Retail and
the Antec EA500 EarthWatts series 500W Power Supply you recommended.
I borrowed a floppy drive and 3 used floppies I will later test them.

I only need the dinasoure Maxtor as a temporary measure to insure the mother board needs not be RMAed.
But I still am not sure what software to use for zero filling the drive. I will need to reread some tutorials, it all slipped my older mind.
Any detailed help link or steps will be wonderful.



You can go to the Maxtor website to download a zero fill utility.

I am kicking myself in the head I was so frustrated till I carefully looked in the manual on a motherboard diagram. The port I was able to hook up an older IDE belt to was the floppy drive port
Usually on any other motherboard you plug the IDE belt sraight in. Well this motherboard has it sideways and did not look like an IDE port to me untill I read it.

I went to maxtor and could not find a utility named zero fill, spent 15 minutes looking, possibly missed it ot it is absent.

I searched google for zero fill programs and a low level free format was posted as a free download instead
Well I did low level format a 6 gig hard drive for temporary instalation of the OS.

It is working I am writing this post from this threads Rig.
The Raptor still not showing up, but another 500 gig Sata is coming Monday. I will have enough time to send in for the $20 rebate to Abit.

The 160 gig Maxtor is taking forever to low format.
I am both kicking myself in the head as well as blaming Abit for the new creative obscurity they placed the IDE port in, sideways not from the top down as we all are used to for years. Main thing is all but Raptor is well and now I can flash #14 from Windows, and see if it will be recognized.

Actually I have to wait till te 160 gig is done it locks up the computer useless as it formats.
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: TungFree
Originally posted by: TungFree
I agree it is a dinasoure and I hope the brand new
500 gig 1 x (10005376) SAMSUNG HD501LJ 500GB SATA 7200 RPM 16MB Hard Drive Bulk will work.
Samsung Hard drive is coming with the Gigabyte GZ-FA1CA-ASB 3D Aurora 570 Aluminum Full Tower Case w/Multi-functional Window (Black) Retail and
the Antec EA500 EarthWatts series 500W Power Supply you recommended.
I borrowed a floppy drive and 3 used floppies I will later test them.

I only need the dinasoure Maxtor as a temporary measure to insure the mother board needs not be RMAed.
But I still am not sure what software to use for zero filling the drive. I will need to reread some tutorials, it all slipped my older mind.
Any detailed help link or steps will be wonderful.



You can go to the Maxtor website to download a zero fill utility.

I am kicking myself in the head I was so frustrated till I carefully looked in the manual on a motherboard diagram. The port I was able to hook up an older IDE belt to was the floppy drive port
Usually on any other motherboard you plug the IDE belt sraight in. Well this motherboard has it sideways and did not look like an IDE port to me untill I read it.

I went to maxtor and could not find a utility named zero fill, spent 15 minutes looking, possibly missed it ot it is absent.

I searched google for zero fill programs and a low level free format was posted as a free download instead
Well I did low level format a 6 gig hard drive for temporary instalation of the OS.

It is working I am writing this post from this threads Rig.
The Raptor still not showing up, but another 500 gig Sata is coming Monday. I will have enough time to send in for the $20 rebate to Abit.

The 160 gig Maxtor is taking forever to low format.
I am both kicking myself in the head as well as blaming Abit for the new creative obscurity they placed the IDE port in, sideways not from the top down as we all are used to for years. Main thing is all but Raptor is well and now I can flash #14 from Windows, and see if it will be recognized.

Actually I have to wait till te 160 gig is done it locks up the computer useless as it formats.

When all else fail, read the manual. As I recall, the PATA cable should not fit into the floppy header on the MB. IDE cable is always wider than floppy cable.

Raptor recognition problem is well documented with many P35 boards. Your SATA optical drive works. Therefore, there is a good chance that the Samsung SATA drive will also load windows.
 

sharad

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After following this thread and Serpent's posts for weeks and I just took the leap from an old Athlon 2800+, Nvidia 6600GT, 1GB RAM (ancient I know) and bought IP35 last week. It's the Dark Raider edition, not E or Pro - I need the Firewire port. Also here in NZ the IP35-E is only $25NZD cheaper than IP35. Both have 3 years warranty though.

Intel Q6600 (G0 stepping)
Abit IP35
Silverstone ST50EF 500W
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4 1GBx4
Foxconn 8600GTS 256MB (occasional gaming)

My thoughts so far on the whole build...
- The double boot really scares you first time you boot your system after putting together all components. You get used to it after that. Have to get the new BIOS at some point.
- I didn't really have any problems booting with the Corsair memory as it defaults to the JEDEC 1.8w specs.
- Had no problems at all installing XP with SP2 on a WD 250G SATA1 drive. The install seemed a little slower than usual though.
- No overclocking. Not for a few weeks at least.
- Not impressed with the stock Intel cooler. It's a pain to secure and actually bends the motherboard a little. 47c idle and 70+c load at around 21c room temp. Have to get TR120 Extreme or TR Ultima90 at some point.
- Not impressed with Realtek on-board sound or Abit's implementation of it. There is just too much static interference when using headphones. 4 year old Audigy1 is better, even old Abit NF7-S with SoundStorm was much better.
- Sometimes the Del key to enter BIOS just doesn't register and Windows continues to load. I have to keep pressing the Del key for the BIOS to load. My keyboard is connected from a powered USB hub that could be the problem.

Anyway overall I am very happy with the board itself. It has been rock solid in hours of Prime95 tests.

To give you some idea of my upgrade - I have gone from 30 frames at low quality 1024x768 res in Doom3 to 100+ frames at 1280x1024 res at Ultra quality on a 19" LCD. I would just like to thank you all, especially SerpentRoyal.
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: sharad
After following this thread and Serpent's posts for weeks and I just took the leap from an old Athlon 2800+, Nvidia 6600GT, 1GB RAM (ancient I know) and bought IP35 last week. It's the Dark Raider edition, not E or Pro - I need the Firewire port. Also here in NZ the IP35-E is only $25NZD cheaper than IP35. Both have 3 years warranty though.

Intel Q6600 (G0 stepping)
Abit IP35
Silverstone ST50EF 500W
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4 1GBx4
Foxconn 8600GTS 256MB (occasional gaming)

My thoughts so far on the whole build...
- The double boot really scares you first time you boot your system after putting together all components. You get used to it after that. Have to get the new BIOS at some point.
- I didn't really have any problems booting with the Corsair memory as it defaults to the JEDEC 1.8w specs.
- Had no problems at all installing XP with SP2 on a WD 250G SATA1 drive. The install seemed a little slower than usual though.
- No overclocking. Not for a few weeks at least.
- Not impressed with the stock Intel cooler. It's a pain to secure and actually bends the motherboard a little. 47c idle and 70+c load at around 21c room temp. Have to get TR120 Extreme or TR Ultima90 at some point.
- Not impressed with Realtek on-board sound or Abit's implementation of it. There is just too much static interference when using headphones. 4 year old Audigy1 is better, even old Abit NF7-S with SoundStorm was much better.
- Sometimes the Del key to enter BIOS just doesn't register and Windows continues to load. I have to keep pressing the Del key for the BIOS to load. My keyboard is connected from a powered USB hub that could be the problem.

Anyway overall I am very happy with the board itself. It has been rock solid in hours of Prime95 tests.

To give you some idea of my upgrade - I have gone from 30 frames at low quality 1024x768 res in Doom3 to 100+ frames at 1280x1024 res at Ultra quality on a 19" LCD. I would just like to thank you all, especially SerpentRoyal.

-14 BIOS is very stable for me. It will address the double post problem. You could always reflash to 11 or 12. Link at my 1st post.

-I'd go with the Big Typhoon or the Gemini II CPU cooler. Gemini can be positioned just above the PWM heat sink to cool the output devices, RAMs, and NB. Proper cooling is very important if you intend to overclock a quad. TR's Ultras are very weak with PWM, NB, and RAM cooling. Use the medium speed 120 x 38mm Panaflos (few posts above) to get good airflow into the MB.

-Go into BIOS and set USB mouse and keyboard support from OS to BIOS mode. You must connect the USB mouse/keyboard directly to the MB if you want reliable detection during boot.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...s&Item=N82E16835103026
 

richwenzel

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Is this board done? Newegg/clubit don't even have a link to it anymore. Can't be found. Using the links on the first page brings you to nothing to "deactivated item" on newegg.
 

TungFree

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SerpentRoyal: See 1st post or read this thread. Should be a guide for flashing in windows a few pages back.

The date and time of the bios Flash help poster is 10/09/2007 02:33 AM it is on Page 10 by hokiealumnus
hokiealumnus: It's highly recommended you flash BIOS from a DOS environment. Windows is possible but you're taking an unnecessary risk.

You'll need to create a boot floppy to use to flash it. The one I used was easily created with this utility (drdflash downloaddrdflash, it creates a boot floppy without drivers taking up all the space).

After using that to create your boot floppy, download the BIOS of your choice (Official releases here. Beta release here.

If using version 12, unzip, copy the files to your floppy & you're done. Simply reboot with the floppy as your first boot device & once in DOS, type "runme" and it'll automagically flash for you. DO NOT POWER DOWN OR HIT ANY KEYSTROKES until it has completed.

If using v13beta, the process is slightly different. See the first post in this thread (9/4/07 update) for Serpents instructions on how to do that.

You may need to go to page 10 find 10/09/2007 02:33 by hokiealumnus

to get all the links on his page. As a service I inserted a link above in hokiealumnus's post where you can download the floppy boot disk creating software to which you unzip your bios version you wish to flash.
Simply reboot with the floppy as your first boot device & once in DOS, type "runme" and it'll automagically flash for you. DO NOT POWER DOWN OR HIT ANY KEYSTROKES until it has completed.
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: richwenzel
Is this board done? Newegg/clubit don't even have a link to it anymore. Can't be found. Using the links on the first page brings you to nothing to "deactivated item" on newegg.

I think Abit is trying to save $ by dropping Abit IP35-E and replacing it with IP35V.

 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: richwenzel
Is this board done? Newegg/clubit don't even have a link to it anymore. Can't be found. Using the links on the first page brings you to nothing to "deactivated item" on newegg.

Lowest price is ZZF ~$100. Not sure if the $60 special will return since this may be a clearance item. We will know in a few weeks.

IP35 is identical to IP35-E. However, you're paying $95 AR @ MWAVE to run RAID and 1394a. Board also has heat pipe cooling and two more SATA ports. It's a much better buy than the GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L @ $90.

 

Brutus04

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I read that the IP35V is Abit's replacement for the 35-E. The difference appears to be the ICH7 vice ICH9. Both use the P35. Seriously thinking about this board. Anyone have any experience with the "V"?
 

SerpentRoyal

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E has...

-ICH9 with heat sink (no heat sink @ ICH7 for V)

-PWM heat sink (no PWM heat sink for V)

-Power module nearly identical to IP35 Pro (less robust power module for V)

-Four MOSFET driven fan headers (three for V)

-Twelve USB 2.0 ports (eight for V)

-Molex AUX power plug for GPU (no molex AUX for V)


IP35V adds 1394a and a CMOS reset switch. Don't think this board uses the JMICRON controller since ICH7 should natively support IDE.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2122184&enterthread=y

Folks were warned about IP35-E going OOS. $60 AR was a fantastic deal. Holding out for free ship is foolish when the board is probably selling at cost after rebate. Congrat to those who engaged @ $60 + ship.
 

bal3wolf

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ip35-e was on sell at newegg other day i don't even see it as a product now search says no items for ip35-e.
 
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