Abit IP35-E Review (500MHz FSB board)...$90 @ NewEgg + $6.61 ship

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WEW

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Hi - is the best option to use the Flash Menu with the Abit software via One Click Live Update to get the best/most stable Bios?

Thats what I did - was not sure if thats the best way to keep up to date.

note: i dont overclock

Thanks
 
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Originally posted by: GundamF91
I got my IP35E from NewEgg. it has a sticker on the board itself, by the rest of the labels, and it's a "B" I'm wondering if anyone else got that? I'm curious to see what that means, like Revision B or etc?

B stock?
 

hokiealumnus

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Originally posted by: WEW
Hi - is the best option to use the Flash Menu with the Abit software via One Click Live Update to get the best/most stable Bios?

Thats what I did - was not sure if thats the best way to keep up to date.

note: i dont overclock

Thanks

NO, that is by far the worst way to update the BIOS. Glad you got through safely, but I wouldn't recommend repeating. If you must do it from windows, download the BIOS and flash from the file.

On top of that, live update is pushing out v.13, which lots of people have problems with, especially if you overclock. The best official version is v.12 and there are at least three good betas out v.13beta, v.14beta04 & v.14beta05. v.14beta06 has issues, I wouldn't recommend that one.

The safest way to flash is from a DOS environment.
 

GundamF91

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Right now I have the v13beta01, it's the best one for me in terms of stability compared to 12 and 14beta05.
 

milan03

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Hey guys, I think i have a slight problem. Just set up my new system:

E2160 M0 + thermalright ultra-120 extreme
IP35-E Bios version 12
2x1Gb Crucial Ballistix ddr 800
Radeon hd 2600XT
Corsair 520

Now I'm trying to overclock this baby, but it seems that I'm hitting the wall at the pretty low frequency 322 x 9 is the last i can boot to. Orthos reports error after few minutes, Down at 317 x 9 I can run Orthos for about 6 minutes. At 325 x 9 won't even boot to bios!

Here is what ive been trying:

Set the ddr speed to 1:1, voltage to 2.0 or 2.1.
Set the vcore to 1.465
even increased nb and sb voltage up a notch,
changed the dimm slots from 2,4 to 1,3

Temps are awesome in bios or in core temp. Idling at 22 load up to 42 C

My case has excellent air flow, 6 fans 2 fron intake two side intake 1 rear exhaust 1 120mm top exhaust fan!!! system temps are from 21-27C.

I was hoping to get this baby at least up to 333 x 9 if not further up.
What am I doing wrong here?!

Please someone help me!

Thank you in advance guys.
 

Blacklash

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The places that still stock the IP35-E are now asking 115-129usd for it. I'd say just get the IP35 at this point.
 

MadScientist

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Originally posted by: nyker96
AMAZINGLY the IP35-E survived a bad BIOS flash... I got my second IP35-E last week and although happy it's a 5/14/2007 BIOS. So I decided to flash it to 14 BIOS. Little did I know I had it on an untested OC setting the night before the flash. I got it to win xp, ran the flasher. And oh lord, right after it says finishing wiping the ROM and installing new BIOS, just at the 25% point of the install, it stopped, the machine just went frozen. I was freaking out, cause I really hate to RMA the board and wait a week before putting that machine back again. So I try booting it ... no luck, then just before I gave up I thought of reseting the BIOS. Then I was waiting for the reboot to come ... It was just time ticking away, after a long 10 seconds the fan came on for like 2 second then it died again, at that point I thought it was gone, so was reaching for the PSU off button so I can take it apart for RMA, just at that nick of time it came back on and not only that booted all the way, I quickly pressed DEL to get into BIOS and turn on default settings. THen it actually let me get into WIndows. I was so afraid to turn it off again fearing it might just not come back. I crossed my fingers and tried another flash to 14. THis time it went all the way w/o problem. I then tried a reboot and put on the last known good OC setting, it was absolutely no problem, ran ortho/mem86 for couple hours, completely cool.

This is gotta be the closest I came to trashing a board. Haven't had a closer call.

I'm not trying to be rude, but you didn't take the advice of others here. NEVER flash a bios in Windows unless you are absolutely sure your system is completely stable. I set my system back to stock settings, close down all unnecessary apps, download the bios file to my hard drive, unplug my lan cable, and flash from the bios file on my hard drive.

 

imported_Husky55

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So Serpent and Hokiealumnus, now that the 35-E is discontinued what is our next best bang for the buck board?

I bought an E way back but I am now looking for the next board for a new build, possibly Penryn.

I saw that bios 14 v5 is having some negative feedback and no update on your first page, serpent, what bios are you running?

 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: milan03
Hey guys, I think i have a slight problem. Just set up my new system:

E2160 M0 + thermalright ultra-120 extreme
IP35-E Bios version 12
2x1Gb Crucial Ballistix ddr 800
Radeon hd 2600XT
Corsair 520

Now I'm trying to overclock this baby, but it seems that I'm hitting the wall at the pretty low frequency 322 x 9 is the last i can boot to. Orthos reports error after few minutes, Down at 317 x 9 I can run Orthos for about 6 minutes. At 325 x 9 won't even boot to bios!

Here is what ive been trying:

Set the ddr speed to 1:1, voltage to 2.0 or 2.1.
Set the vcore to 1.465
even increased nb and sb voltage up a notch,
changed the dimm slots from 2,4 to 1,3

Temps are awesome in bios or in core temp. Idling at 22 load up to 42 C

My case has excellent air flow, 6 fans 2 fron intake two side intake 1 rear exhaust 1 120mm top exhaust fan!!! system temps are from 21-27C.

I was hoping to get this baby at least up to 333 x 9 if not further up.
What am I doing wrong here?!

Please someone help me!

Thank you in advance guys.

Reset BIOS. Go into BIOS and change FSB to 310, memory divider to 1:1, memory timing to 5-5-5-15-2T, Vcore to 1.4, and Vdimm to 2.1. Hit F10 to save BIOS. Boot into windows and run Orthos large mode for 10 minutes. If okay, then bump FSB to 5MHz and retest. If you fail Orthos, then run Memtest86, test #5 for 50 loops to check RAMs.

You may want to re-flash 12 BIOS with the "WB" switch. See my 1st post.
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: Husky55
So Serpent and Hokiealumnus, now that the 35-E is discontinued what is our next best bang for the buck board?

I bought an E way back but I am now looking for the next board for a new build, possibly Penryn.

I saw that bios 14 v5 is having some negative feedback and no update on your first page, serpent, what bios are you running?


14 BIOS...the one before version 5.

There are no quality $70 "overclocking" Intel board at this time. I think the MB vendors are artificially keeping the price of these boards north of $90.
 

bigblockchevy

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i have two of these ip35-e's thanks to an error made by fedex ground--there from mwave- their revision v1.00 marked b and they have ip35 under a sticker that says ip35e.

the first one is absolute trash . it is so unstable you can hardly enter the bios without a freeze . if you attempt to load windows you'll get a instant BSOD . i've tried all kinds of bios settings --ram-vcore ect--and it's all a no-go . i have a device to flash bios chips . so i pulled the chip and flashed it to 12 , then 13 beta and lastly 14 beta . still a no go . i have tried a multitude of ram and psu's and cpu's --it don't seem to like anything . it is going back to abit for a RMA--hopefully i'll either get it fixed --or another mb . it is one of the flakeyest mb's i've ever laid hands on . it reminds me of the "kimpo" mb's from south korea --or that really flakey batch of dfi-ultra d's that came out a few years ago with the bad power regulators. this mb is so bad it "bent"my corsair xms800 ram and it had to be rma'ed as well .

the second abit-ip35e however is a new ballgame --it is an identical twin to the bad one --HOWEVER it runs very well . when corsair rma'e my ram (yes i told them the flakey mb may have killed it--but they sent replacements anyway ) they sent pro-mos which requires more v-dimm than i would like for this mb--but it booted up and loaded windows fine. i flashed this mb to bios beta 14-4 is seems very good . this mb over-clocks very well --maybe a bit too good--cause i killed my e2140-m0-- while running 466x8 3.73g-@ 1.36v core . the temps all seem very good . i'm currently running it with a e2160 9x356 for an even 3.2g

no problems with e-sata--or ide --tried several types of ram--it seems to love any of them when set right -- the second mb is very good-- it reminds me of my old and beloved ic7g--but over-clocks better . i think with the right cpu & ram --500+mhz is possible for this mb.
 

MadScientist

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I haven't started overclocking yet. I'm waiting for the 8800 GT from Dell, ship date is hopefully still 12/10. I thought I 'd check my ram out first. I have it set at 4-4-4-12-2T at 2.2 vdimm stock 400 Mhz. With 4 x 1 gb sticks (2 matched sets) installed it would not pass Memtest86 at these settings. On the first pass a red screen of errors in test 5. I checked each set individually in both slots 1 & 3 and 2 & 4 at these settings with no errors after 5 passes, then looped it through test 5 and test 8 for 1 hour, no errors. So the ram appears to be ok. With 4 sticks in at settings of 5-5-5-15-2T I get no errors. Could it be the memory controller on this board can't handle 4 sticks at 4-4-4-12-2T? Anyone else using 4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 able to run 4-4-4-12-2T on this board? When I get the time and with the new video card I'll try bumping up the NB voltage a notch or two and see if that helps. I don't want to go any higher than 2.2 vdimm.

Q6600 (stock for now)
Geforce 8800 GT (on order from Dell), used my 7600 GT to install OS.
4 x 1 GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400
Vista Ultimate 64
2 x Maxtor 300 GB SATA HDs
Samsung SH-S203B SATA DVD Burner
Corsair 620W PSU
Cooler Master Hyper TX2 HS/fan
Antec 900 case
 

WEW

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Hey Serpent where is the link to DL the Beta you have version 14 beta 04 - I think thats the one you have - I can't find it to download.

Also, is there a link on instructions to flash from DOS?

Lastly - I was reading on Abit Forums it seems like Version 14 beta 04 is now a stable BIOS - based on what someone posted.

Thanks
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: MadScientist
I haven't started overclocking yet. I'm waiting for the 8800 GT from Dell, ship date is hopefully still 12/10. I thought I 'd check my ram out first. I have it set at 4-4-4-12-2T at 2.2 vdimm stock 400 Mhz. With 4 x 1 gb sticks (2 matched sets) installed it would not pass Memtest86 at these settings. On the first pass a red screen of errors in test 5. I checked each set individually in both slots 1 & 3 and 2 & 4 at these settings with no errors after 5 passes, then looped it through test 5 and test 8 for 1 hour, no errors. So the ram appears to be ok. With 4 sticks in at settings of 5-5-5-15-2T I get no errors. Could it be the memory controller on this board can't handle 4 sticks at 4-4-4-12-2T? Anyone else using 4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 able to run 4-4-4-12-2T on this board? When I get the time and with the new video card I'll try bumping up the NB voltage a notch or two and see if that helps. I don't want to go any higher than 2.2 vdimm.

Q6600 (stock for now)
Geforce 8800 GT (on order from Dell), used my 7600 GT to install OS.
4 x 1 GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400
Vista Ultimate 64
2 x Maxtor 300 GB SATA HDs
Samsung SH-S203B SATA DVD Burner
Corsair 620W PSU
Cooler Master Hyper TX2 HS/fan
Antec 900 case


Try upping NB by one or two notches. The latest Crucial Bs can be hit or miss since there is no guarantee that you will get D9 ICs. Course all the noobs are still flocking to these RAMs cause of past overclocking history.

Quality Kingston N5 1.8V DDR2 667 can hit 400MHz/4-4-4-12-2T with only 1.95Vdimm. My N5 1.8V DDR2 800 is good up to about 480MHz/4-4-4-12-2T with 2.1Vdimm.
 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: WEW
Hey Serpent where is the link to DL the Beta you have version 14 beta 04 - I think thats the one you have - I can't find it to download.

Also, is there a link on instructions to flash from DOS?

Lastly - I was reading on Abit Forums it seems like Version 14 beta 04 is now a stable BIOS - based on what someone posted.

Thanks

See my 1st post for link and instruction.
 

JackMDS

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No normal board that does Not have a defective design needs ?almost daily? upgrade of BIOS.

The board is great for enthusiasts who like to play (including myself), but useless to the mainstream market, and that it probably why it is EOL.

I posted this on this thread on Oct.30.

My assumption is that the IP-35E was on rebate forever (on NewEgg, and one other vendor) because Abit can Not sell to the non-enthusiasts a Mobo that Resets at Boot. When these Mobos are gone they probably has V2 waiting and it would go for $90.

I guess I was wrong they even gave up on a version 2.
 

SerpentRoyal

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BIOS 11 stable. Same with 12. If you pop in JEDEC 1.8V DDR2 667 or 800 RAMs from leading vendors like Crucial or Kingston, then the board will POST after you've cleared CMOS prior to the 1st boot. There is no need to tweak any other settings in BIOS if you don't have a USB keyboard. USB keyboard users need to change USB keyboard support from OS to BIOS. The official 14 BIOS uses BIOS as the default setting. It also eliminates the double post as long as standby power is maintained.

You can easily test stability at stock speed by flashing 11 shipping BIOS and reset CMOS. Reboot PC and run any torture test of your choice. System will be 100% stable at stock settings. You can't get anymore mainstream than that! Of course this board can also double the core speed of C2D in the hands of a PC enthusiast.

The double post started with P965. Intel did nothing, so P35 also double post. Asus and Gigabyte P35 are not immune from this Intel chipset anomaly.

Many random system instabilities are caused by defective RAMs, or iffy PSU. A $10 to $20 AR Antec Earthwatts 380 or True Power Trio 430 (version A2) is preferred over a no name 500 watts PSU.

You are not alone in receiving used hardware from NewEgg. I bought two Cooler Master Gemini II CPU coolers.

The first unit is factory fresh with unopened seals. 2nd unit has damaged seals.

Upon further inspection, I discovered that the tape covering the CPU base had been re-seated.

People used to gripe about the frequency of Abit BIOS update. If you don't overclock, then there is no need to update to BIOS 14.
 

brencat

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Originally posted by: MadScientist
I thought I 'd check my ram out first. I have it set at 4-4-4-12-2T at 2.2 vdimm stock 400 Mhz. With 4 x 1 gb sticks (2 matched sets) installed it would not pass Memtest86 at these settings. On the first pass a red screen of errors in test 5. I checked each set individually in both slots 1 & 3 and 2 & 4 at these settings with no errors after 5 passes, then looped it through test 5 and test 8 for 1 hour, no errors. So the ram appears to be ok. With 4 sticks in at settings of 5-5-5-15-2T I get no errors. Could it be the memory controller on this board can't handle 4 sticks at 4-4-4-12-2T? Anyone else using 4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 able to run 4-4-4-12-2T on this board? When I get the time and with the new video card I'll try bumping up the NB voltage a notch or two and see if that helps. I don't want to go any higher than 2.2 vdimm.
@ MadSci... I'm just starting my RAM OCing now and will let you know in a few days. Will be going thru all the dividers testing both 4-4-4-12 and 5-5-5-15. I have 4 slots populated with Ballistix also (2x1gb + 2x512 PC2-6400) and am not planning on using more than 2.2v max at any test.
 

Heidfirst

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Originally posted by: JackMDS
No normal board that does Not have a defective design needs ?almost daily? upgrade of BIOS.
It doesn't need BIOS upgrades but that doesn't mean that it can't be improved with BIOS upgrades.

Have you seen how many BIOS e.g. for Asus & Gigabyte P35s there are?
Presumably you'll be lambasting then for similar then?

I posted this on this thread on Oct.30.

My assumption is that the IP-35E was on rebate forever (on NewEgg, and one other vendor) because Abit can Not sell to the non-enthusiasts a Mobo that Resets at Boot. When these Mobos are gone they probably has V2 waiting and it would go for $90.

I guess I was wrong they even gave up on a version 2.
90% of mobo shipments have IGP - by your thinking as they can't sell to 90% of the market then boards without IGP shouldn't be made?
 

MadScientist

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Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Originally posted by: MadScientist
I haven't started overclocking yet. I'm waiting for the 8800 GT from Dell, ship date is hopefully still 12/10. I thought I 'd check my ram out first. I have it set at 4-4-4-12-2T at 2.2 vdimm stock 400 Mhz. With 4 x 1 gb sticks (2 matched sets) installed it would not pass Memtest86 at these settings. On the first pass a red screen of errors in test 5. I checked each set individually in both slots 1 & 3 and 2 & 4 at these settings with no errors after 5 passes, then looped it through test 5 and test 8 for 1 hour, no errors. So the ram appears to be ok. With 4 sticks in at settings of 5-5-5-15-2T I get no errors. Could it be the memory controller on this board can't handle 4 sticks at 4-4-4-12-2T? Anyone else using 4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 able to run 4-4-4-12-2T on this board? When I get the time and with the new video card I'll try bumping up the NB voltage a notch or two and see if that helps. I don't want to go any higher than 2.2 vdimm.

Q6600 (stock for now)
Geforce 8800 GT (on order from Dell), used my 7600 GT to install OS.
4 x 1 GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400
Vista Ultimate 64
2 x Maxtor 300 GB SATA HDs
Samsung SH-S203B SATA DVD Burner
Corsair 620W PSU
Cooler Master Hyper TX2 HS/fan
Antec 900 case


Try upping NB by one or two notches. The latest Crucial Bs can be hit or miss since there is no guarantee that you will get D9 ICs. Course all the noobs are still flocking to these RAMs cause of past overclocking history.

Quality Kingston N5 1.8V DDR2 667 can hit 400MHz/4-4-4-12-2T with only 1.95Vdimm. My N5 1.8V DDR2 800 is good up to about 480MHz/4-4-4-12-2T with 2.1Vdimm.

My question was can this board run 4 x 1 GB ram stable, specifically, Crucial Ballistix PC6400, at 4-4-4-12-2T. I know after testing that it can run both pairs (2 x 1 Gb) of my ram individually stable at these settings, actually 1T, but not together (all 4 slots populated). Could be the ram, or it could be the memory controller. I did state that I will try upping the NB voltage a bit. I'll post back with the results.

Brencat,
Thanks for the reply. Yours is not the same config as mine, 1 GB less, but it may answer my question.

 

SerpentRoyal

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Originally posted by: MadScientist
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Originally posted by: MadScientist
I haven't started overclocking yet. I'm waiting for the 8800 GT from Dell, ship date is hopefully still 12/10. I thought I 'd check my ram out first. I have it set at 4-4-4-12-2T at 2.2 vdimm stock 400 Mhz. With 4 x 1 gb sticks (2 matched sets) installed it would not pass Memtest86 at these settings. On the first pass a red screen of errors in test 5. I checked each set individually in both slots 1 & 3 and 2 & 4 at these settings with no errors after 5 passes, then looped it through test 5 and test 8 for 1 hour, no errors. So the ram appears to be ok. With 4 sticks in at settings of 5-5-5-15-2T I get no errors. Could it be the memory controller on this board can't handle 4 sticks at 4-4-4-12-2T? Anyone else using 4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 able to run 4-4-4-12-2T on this board? When I get the time and with the new video card I'll try bumping up the NB voltage a notch or two and see if that helps. I don't want to go any higher than 2.2 vdimm.

Q6600 (stock for now)
Geforce 8800 GT (on order from Dell), used my 7600 GT to install OS.
4 x 1 GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400
Vista Ultimate 64
2 x Maxtor 300 GB SATA HDs
Samsung SH-S203B SATA DVD Burner
Corsair 620W PSU
Cooler Master Hyper TX2 HS/fan
Antec 900 case


Try upping NB by one or two notches. The latest Crucial Bs can be hit or miss since there is no guarantee that you will get D9 ICs. Course all the noobs are still flocking to these RAMs cause of past overclocking history.

Quality Kingston N5 1.8V DDR2 667 can hit 400MHz/4-4-4-12-2T with only 1.95Vdimm. My N5 1.8V DDR2 800 is good up to about 480MHz/4-4-4-12-2T with 2.1Vdimm.

My question was can this board run 4 x 1 GB ram stable, specifically, Crucial Ballistix PC6400, at 4-4-4-12-2T. I know after testing that it can run both pairs (2 x 1 Gb) of my ram individually stable at these settings, actually 1T, but not together (all 4 slots populated). Could be the ram, or it could be the memory controller. I did state that I will try upping the NB voltage a bit. I'll post back with the results.

Brencat,
Thanks for the reply. Yours is not the same config as mine, 1 GB less, but it may answer my question.

Depends on the ICs that come with your Crucial B. At this time, micron can and will substitute non-D9 chips. You many need to massage the timing, NB, and SB settings to achieve stability.

Your best chance to run 4-4-4-12-2T with four modules is to secure quality 1.8V DDR2 667 or 800 RAMs. I have no problem with four sticks of 1.8V DDR2 667 HP/Crucial or 1.8V DDR2 800 Kingston N5. By bumping Vdimm to 2.0, I was able to hit 476MHz with 4-4-4-12-2T timing.
 

brencat

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Originally posted by: MadScientist
My question was can this board run 4 x 1 GB ram stable, specifically, Crucial Ballistix PC6400, at 4-4-4-12-2T. I know after testing that it can run both pairs (2 x 1 Gb) of my ram individually stable at these settings, actually 1T, but not together (all 4 slots populated). Could be the ram, or it could be the memory controller. I did state that I will try upping the NB voltage a bit. I'll post back with the results.

Brencat,
Thanks for the reply. Yours is not the same config as mine, 1 GB less, but it may answer my question.
@MadSci - Forgot to ask what Bios are you running? I'm on 14 Beta 05. Reason I ask is that this beta still does the double-post whenever you change RAM timings or divider, but doesn't double-post when changing anything else. This probably means Abit has manipulated the strap settings to fix double-post -- I don't know, frankly I don't have the technical knowledge here. But I wonder if this fix could also impact timings when all 4 slots are filled. Anyway, just speculation right now. If I start having probs testing at 4-4-4-12, I may go back to Bios 12 and redo the tests.

Please be patient...I work 14hrs/day and do my OCing/testing overnight so it may take me a while
 
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