Originally posted by: Thund3rb1rd
is there a way to know if an orthos failure is due to cpu or ram?
other than running memtest
just wanting to know if it will do any good to bump up my vdimm when orthos fails, cuz memtest takes so long to run test 5
Originally posted by: TungFree
SerpentRoyal:
Can you list all your components in your profile so we can quickly check for problem? Are you sure that you don't have a short in the case? Can you flash to 14 BIOS with the WB switch? Load windows with the MB on a non-conductive surface outside the case. I agree that installing windows should not be this difficult. Are you sure the RAMs, CPU, GPU, and all connectors/cards are fully seated? Siren sound is usually related to unseated RAMs.
Ok I did the signiture as you asked, but cannot find the Kingston ram details which you recommended.
Raptor still has not arrived. I am teacher and had no time so far to do any of what you had asked above. It is 3 am here too early to do things in the dark will look for any additional comments on your reaction to my rig list.
It's Kingston N5 1.8V DDR2 800. These are okay since you've memtested them. All the components look good.
You should put the MB on the original shipping box. Remove battery. Clear CMOS. Wait 1/2 hour before replacing battery and CMOS. Reseat both sticks of memory and GPU. Connect mouse, keyboard, optical drive, and the HDD. Connect the 24 and 8 pin plugs from the PSU. Short the two power pins on the MB's header to start. You should be able to go into the BIOS and Load Optimized Default. Hit F10 to save BIOS. Reboot two more times by shorting the two power pins on the MB's header. Now go into BIOS and set the optical drive as 1st boot, and HDD as 2nd boot. Hit F10 to save. Reboot two more times then shut down windows with the original Microsoft CD in the optical drive. Now restart the PC. Windows should load. If system is stuck at some point while loading windows, then the problem is a bad CD, bad optical drive, or corrupt data in the HDD. You can zero fill the HDD to address data corruption.
Originally posted by: WEW
I really need some help - since my wireless keyboard/mouse now has stopped working in windows - even the power of the receiver goess off once its in windows - mouse/keyboard work fine in BIOS.
I connected a USB Keyboard and Mouse - still same problem, works in BIOS, but not in OS. I even changed the BIOS setting to OS for both.
I went in Safe Mode - it still won't work there - is the driver not getting loaded - I have no idea what happened? When I plugged my USB Keyboard/mouse - I see the wizard pop up on Windows but I can't do anything. I know my USB ports work, since I plugged in other devices and they are detected.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks I really dont want to reinstall Windows
Originally posted by: bigblockchevy
on the cold post issue
there may be an issue with abits automatic fan control on the MB or in the bios --i was chatting with poly he said he had an abit am2 that did the same thing when any of the fan sockets on the mb wern't hooked up to a fan or if abit's auto stuff wasn't enabled in the bios .
it's running fine today--no problems at all--but its 68f---
as far as hardware--i have numerous sticks of ddr-800 --kingston-super talent --corsair , crucial --- micron -pro mos and other chips . PSU's i also have tried at least a half dozen including ones recommended--as far as the case i tried it striped bare on the box and just about every possible combination you can imagine --and it still pulls the exact same stunts . the stable MB runs and OC's well--the unstable MB is just unstable--no matter what you do-use or set anything to .
the stable MB has one problem--thats a cold-post--but i think it is a thing with the fan-thermal control stuff in the bios--so far it's booting fine--after i enabled everything--knock on wood .
Originally posted by: WEW
I really need some help - since my wireless keyboard/mouse now has stopped working in windows - even the power of the receiver goess off once its in windows - mouse/keyboard work fine in BIOS.
I connected a USB Keyboard and Mouse - still same problem, works in BIOS, but not in OS. I even changed the BIOS setting to OS for both.
I went in Safe Mode - it still won't work there - is the driver not getting loaded - I have no idea what happened? When I plugged my USB Keyboard/mouse - I see the wizard pop up on Windows but I can't do anything. I know my USB ports work, since I plugged in other devices and they are detected.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks I really dont want to reinstall Windows
Originally posted by: TungFree
Update:
I followed all instructions.
The CD began to boot the system. Loaded the XP up to where it says windows now booting with 3 choices. Before I could select the first one to install the OS it just quit the power on its own within 10 seconds.
This CD has worked for me for years and was the one I installed on the IDE drive a week ago.
The optical drive works because it installed it too just a week ago.
as to the HDD I just zero filled it then partitioned it with Partition Magic 8 on my Athlon Computer into 80 and 420 roughly gigs. There were no options on it to make the front disk as the primary and when I tried to set what seems like primary it said do you want the disk not to be primary. So I left it alone. Assumed Partition Magic makes the first Partition as Primary.
What software can I use to partition it right so I am certai that is not my problem? this is a Samsung Drive
I tried adding Gdisk to the Coldera floppy I used to Zero fill the Samsung Hard drive. While booting it it wanted to see MSDos.exe So I deleted Gdisk
Is there another program that will work with Coldera I have on the floppy?
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Bump NB voltage up one notch. Do the same with GTLREF. Change Vdimm to 2.1. You chip could probably hit 3.2GHz with more Vcore. That said, anything north of 3.0GHz is blazing fast. I'd stay put at 1.465 and 3.15GHz. I suspect you may be okay @ 3.18GHz. Next step is to run RAM at 400MHz or higher with 4-4-4-12-2T timing. You may want to bump Vdimm to 2.1V.
You probably did something wrong with the partitioning. What were the three options? It appears that this is a case of user error since you were able to successfully load windows before using the same HDD and optical drive. The system now crashes during windows installation.
Go back and zero fill the HDD. DO NOT PARTITION THE HDD. Reboot with the windows CD/DVD and let windows format the HDD and set the partition. Vista must use NTFS. XP can use FAT32 or NTFS. After you've loaded windows, then use Partitionmagic to create an extended logical partition D after the C primary active partition.
MadSci... another update on timings:Originally posted by: MadScientist
Brencat,
Thanks again for the info. I was almost certain you could run 3 GB Ballistix at 4-4-4-4-2T with all slots populated at 400, 406 in yor case. The question still remains if this MB will do 1 x 4 GB Ballistix at these settings. I can only achieve them if I slightly underclock them to 399 (798) or lower. I know I can do them at 408 with either of my 2 sets individually. I didn't try overclocking just 1 set (1 x 2 GB) at 4-4-4-12-1T. All this testing takes time, which most of us, especially at this time of year, have little to spare.
If you could, would you try and see how high you can go at 4-4-4-12-2T at 2.0 to 2.2V. Also try the settings that I used, 5-4-4-12-2T. By just changing the Tcl from 4 to 5 I was able to reach 488 at 2.1V and 509 at 2.2V Memtest86+ stable.
I'll check out your thread in the System mem section.
SerpentRoyal:
You can load Memtest86 and retest RAM. Use test#5 for 50 loops. You most likely will discover that RAMs are okay. I'd go back and reflash 12 BIOS. Make sure you use the "WB" switch during the flash...see my 1st post.
Originally posted by: brencat
MadSci... another update on timings:Originally posted by: MadScientist
Brencat,
Thanks again for the info. I was almost certain you could run 3 GB Ballistix at 4-4-4-4-2T with all slots populated at 400, 406 in yor case. The question still remains if this MB will do 1 x 4 GB Ballistix at these settings. I can only achieve them if I slightly underclock them to 399 (798) or lower. I know I can do them at 408 with either of my 2 sets individually. I didn't try overclocking just 1 set (1 x 2 GB) at 4-4-4-12-1T. All this testing takes time, which most of us, especially at this time of year, have little to spare.
If you could, would you try and see how high you can go at 4-4-4-12-2T at 2.0 to 2.2V. Also try the settings that I used, 5-4-4-12-2T. By just changing the Tcl from 4 to 5 I was able to reach 488 at 2.1V and 509 at 2.2V Memtest86+ stable.
I'll check out your thread in the System mem section.
I tried 5-4-4-9 timings @ 1:1.5 (488 RAM speed) but no go. Specifically 2.05v errors immediately, 2.1v fails Test #4 on first pass, 2.1v with MCH +2 bumps also errors Test #4, and 2.2v with default MCH errors on Test #5 on 2nd pass. Did not try 5-4-4-12 but will revisit that one later.
But I did have luck with 4-4-4-8 @ 1:1.25 (406 RAM speed) @ 2.05v. (Note that I gave it the extra 0.05 juice just to be sure). With tRAS 4 points tighter, it improved my SP1M score by ~ 0.2 sec and system feels really crisp. 3DM06 was modestly higher:
1:1.25 @ 4-4-4-12, 2.0v: SP1M 19.22--19.30--19.30--19.19--19.25. 3DMark: 10826
1:1.25 @ 4-4-4-8, 2.05v: SP1M 19.09--19.07--19.05--19.05--19.03. 3DMark: 10830
I'm currently memtesting 1:1.25 @ 4-4-3-9, 2.05v. This looks promising as bandwidth has improved some 125mb/sec over 4-4-4-8 setting.
By the way, I run all tests in memtest not just test #5. Because as you can see, I failed Test 4 earlier on another setting.
SerpentRoyal:
That's the double post with all P965 and P35 chipset. BIOS 14 fixes this problem as long as standby power is maintained via the PSU.
Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
I think you hit C, 1, 5, to select test #5.