Abit KT7 Vs MSI K7T Pro2a

[joeryu]

hehe, agree with John above

 

[clumsum]

I also like the extra fan headers on the Abit KT7-R, and the fact that each is rated at 6W..........
Plus............ NO on-board sound .........

 

[Charles]

I used both mobo. I prefer MSI K7T Pro2. Stability, stability, stability...

 

[LXi]

Ignorant fools...

<<I've owned both of these boards and there is absolutely no difference,except the fact Abit's board gives higher memory scores/bandwidth and doesn't come with comic book software.>>

Its very clear in Anandtech's round up that the MSI is faster in games.


<<Niether of the boards have crashed,so why settle for low performance,if MSI is better why doesn't it show up in scores.>>

What a ton of bullshit. Do a search on the Abit board and see how many problems are there. Low performance? Are you pulling that out or your arse?


<<After all they do have the same chipset.Who can dispute this?Also Abit has an ISA slot,which is much more useable than a CNR.>>

Who use ISA anyway? PCI is what we're talking about these days.


<<Abit did have a batch problem a while back causing high RMA,but it should be gone.>>

Still no match for MSI.


<<The MSI servers must be what causes this forum to be slow at times!!!!!LOL>>[

LOL at yourself. The MSI powers the web servers, the forum servers are powered by Intel systems. Dont BS without knowing the facts.


<<Oh,if memory scores and performance don't concern you,please don't ever upgrade.
KT7 / VIA KT133 also performs better than any Intel 815 based board mhz for mhz!MSI doesn't.>>

One word, BS.

People these days just dont know how to make sound arguments, I'd love to see you back those blanket statements up.


<<now way doot, Abit owns MSI>>

If they own them so much, why arent they in the top 5 mobo manufacturers? MSI is the second largest motherboard manufacturer in Taiwan and top 5 in the world. I would very much argue the opposite, MSI owns Abit.

 

[LXi]

John:

Dont forget, it was you that stated the best motherboard manufacturer is a toss up between Asus and MSI.

 

[Imported]

I have a KT7-RAID with no problems what so ever, but if I had to do it all over again, I'd get the MSI K7T Pro2a (Which wasn't available at the time I built my system..) cause of all the reasons listed before..

 

[Mustanggt]

I to Have the Abit KT7 and it is very good board if I to had to di it over again I would get the MSI but im sure there is not much difference in the two boards besides msi being more stable whitch is a plus lol

 

[skeeteroplagus]

Me personally have had better luck with the KT7-RAID then the K7T-PRO2A, but I will be receiving a new MSI board soon, then I will make my final verdict. The KT7 RAID rand a 900 MHz. chip at 1.1 gig for about 3 hours with no crashes, while the K7T PRO2A wouldn't even boot that chip. Could my board maybe be defective? I don't think so but I am gonna get a replacement just to find that out.

 

[nortexoid]

tomwhardware.com - MSI may be more stable, but it's NOT a better performer....as shown, the
fastest was the AOpen AK73 (next, Asus A7V - and dead last, MSI's)...in fact, MSI's actually scored 10fps slower than the A7V in quake3...that's a BIG difference...(although, in real world at resolutions higher than 800x600, the video card becoems the bottleneck anyway, so there would be no difference...)...in fact, it scored on ave. around 7fps lower than the fastest board in every game tested....

however, due to stability and insignificant performance differences, i'd go w/ MSI..as for the multiplier adjustment nto workign properly, i heard it first on hardocp, and do believe it, but if it happens to u, just return the board for another one...and more than likely, it WON'T happen to u...

 

[LXi]

I highly doubt those Tomshardware numbers, they must have not used the latest BIOS for the test. Everywhere else, including Anandtech, shows that the MSI is a top performer.

 

[Wiplash]

Even Overclockers.com blasted the KT7 and rated the K7T Pro Higher but not the highest. I also read that Abit has a high RMA rate.

 

[StanFL]

I sold my non RAID KT7 to get a Pro 2A. Although it's basically a toss up I'd actually prefer to have my Abit back. The Pro 2A boots slower and has lower memory bandwidth than it's predecessor. Zero stability problems with either board in my experience.

 

[damac]

my vote goes for msi board over abit. had abit and got crazy ass problems with rebooting, cpu multipliers not working, usb problems, shutdown problems. i saw manh posts in message boards and newsgroups with same stuff and rmad and they gave my my board back saying no problems.

took same stuff into msi board a few weeks ago and haven't had any problems thus far which is cool. I don't do benchmarks though so not sure about numbers.

but my computer shutsdown, cpu with same bridges closed works fine now and usb isnt cutting out. maybe this is one of those things but it was clear to me the kt7 was a piece of crap for me making me buy another board and im happy with the msi.

 

[Dexion]

HardOCP

Good read about the board here.

 

[MassMhz]

LXI, no one appreciates your hostility and insults,this is all in good fun, and for you to resort to these behaviors is rediculous.I can back up all my claims,except for the comment about the servers which was meant as a joke.Did you not see the smile.I have owned both boards this month and ran benchmarks on them as closely set up as could get and the Abit outperforms the MSI even with the new bios that forces 4 way interleave,i also owned an Asus CUSL2 and the 815 scores were lower also in Sandra,3Dmark,and Passmark.There is my proof.I meant niether of my boards have crashed,a lot more people use ISA than CNR.
I am not flaming,I'm backing up my post,there are no stability issues with these boards only performance issues.You can crash any system,but you can't make just any system perform.

 

[Dexion]

LXi, do you even own a MSI K7T pro2?

 

[LXi]

MassMhz:

I can do the same thing and pull numbers out of nowhere. If you have the numbers, take screen shots and prove them. There is no evidence whatsoever that the MSI performs so poor and shouldnt even be considered.


Dexion:

I've worked extensively with both motherboards.

 

[PCResources]

I analyze hardware all day long, thousand of athlon systems has passed through my hands, and i don't just analyze them for someone, these are products that my company will sell, as i own this company i will always see to it that only the best of the best parts will be used. Instability is an unknown term for my customers.

Abit has a very high DOA and RMA percentage, so i do not use them, if you check the components you will see why MSI ranks higher. It's that simple, higher quality components will give you a more stable product.

Abit has had these problems before, but i never ruled them out then, i still check their products when they make changes to them.

And the memory bandwidth issue... Well, there is a difference, but it is soooo small that no one will ever notice it, and the MSI is the better performer overall.

If your system crashes more often, isn't that a HUGE performance problem?? &quot;well, i have to reset my computer five times a day, but when an application actually runs it runs it faster than on any other mobo&quot;...

MSI is the king of stability in the low-medium-end mobo market right now, if it changes, i will support another brand, i don't care about brands, i care about stability.

Patrick Palm

Am speaking for PC Resources

 

[LXi]

Thanks a million Patrick, for educating these poor souls.

 

[loosbrew]

this is utterly rediculous!!

you are all children, cmon on now! some people have great luck with abit and some with MSI. wtf?, do you guys own stock and are worried that one or two kids purchases of motherboards from these companies will hurt your stock? jesus....i loked at all the socket a mb's when i was ready and went with an abit kt7 raid. i liked the isa and didnt like the idea of a cnr. i have been nothing but happy with it, but....if someone were to buy me a msi i would eat it up in a heart beat. from the sounds of it it sounds awesome but so does the abit. if i didnt have an isa nic iw ouldve gone asus, and im kind of glad i didnt, i really didnt like the dipswitces idea...i get a good overclock with my kt7, 10@105 with cheapo pc100 ram, with all ram settings set high, never crashed once. only thing i crahsed with the kt7 was photoshop when i used a utility called softfsb that let me change the fsb in windows, and i set it up to 110, i guess it was too high


my .02

loosbrew

 

[LXi]

<<i really didnt like the dipswitces idea...>>

The A7V has the same option in BIOS now.

 

[PCResources]

Loosebrew, i don't think that it is childish of me to recommend a more stable product when i have tested them out thousands of times. MSI is cheaper, MSI is more stable, MSI is the better performer overall, even in games with the proper settings and components MSI is faster.

I do not say this because i have tested these boards out once or twice, but because i have done stability, performance and longevity tests on so many boards, and these were the results i got.

So if you think it is childish of me to recommend products, based on what i know, then maybe you have missed a the point of this forum.

LXI: Thanks, i had a few broken bones in my hand after knocking down some fool trying to steal my car, so i had a hard time using the keyboard, but now all fingers are ok again, so now i'm back.

Patrick Palm

Am speaking for

 

[LXi]

Hahaha... you're pretty darn good, not many people can prevent a thief on their own. Welcome back, your help is very needed here.

 

[loosbrew]

pcresources,

i apologize, as i didnt intend for that towards you in particular. it was actually meant for anyone who defends a certain product to insult level. i appreciate peoples opinions and the resources provided from places such as anandtech. i will never deny that msi is a bad product as i never have in the past, only because i never used naything by them before. all i can say is that i have had a good experience with abit and cant deny that i am more than happy with them. if msi had been out when i got my motherboard and it ad isa slot i mightve been more inclined according to the price. again, it wasnt directed towards you as you werent actin the motherboard nazi

loooo

edit...btw, i wrote my post while you were writing your post...and didnt see your post about not supporting a certain brand. i just now noticed how you couldve thought it was towards you.

 

[Pakman]

<< See TomeHardware and www.overclockers.com >>

Tom is full of crap... IMHO of course . Bias too..