Abit starts selling three new boards with Q-Otes

[BlingBlingArsch]

What do u know bout performance and occability? The passive northbridge cooling is a big point, at least to me. Abit and Gigabyte, gotta lovem for their passive coolings. Imagine a X2 or Venice and a X800XL on any of these new Boards:

- AN8 V2.0 (nForce(tm)4 Chipset) replacing the existing mainstream AN8
- AN8 Ultra (nForce(tm)4 Ultra Chipset) with additional features and better Audio
- AN8 SLI (nForce(tm)4 SLI Chipset) with the usual Ultra-Features and support for SLI.

 

[render]

http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherb...2.0&fMTYPE=Socket%20939&pPRODINFO=News

 

[rpsgc]

Yummy

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Nice. I wonder how the AN8 ultra will compare to the A8N-E Premium (when it comes out)

 

[Gerbil333]

:Q :Q :Q

I've been looking for a reliable, passive nF4 board for a while and figured my only solution would be an Asus A8N-E paired with a Zalman NB47J.

When will these arrive?

 

[Fisher999]

Very nice indeed! Remember, those of you drooling because of the PASSIVE solution to nb cooling, that ABIT is not the FIRST NF4 to hit the streets with such a solution. Gigabyte's GA-K8N Ulstra-9 has it and has been available for a while.

I KNOW, however, how overclockers chop on the bit (pun intended) everytime ABIT comes out with a new board; yuu can almost always rely on ABIT to give you a board which has great overclocling potential and with rich feature sets !!! :thumbsup:

 

[Fisher999]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
...The passive northbridge cooling is a big point, at least to me. Abit and Gigabyte, gotta lovem for their passive coolings...

Sorry, BlingBlingArsch, for me not having recognized you had already acknowledged Gigabyte's passive NF4 solution. I had just awoken from my LazyBoy as I typed that post and hadn't noticed that you has already given props to Gigabyte. I IMMEDIATELY went to render's link, LOL.

Abit has built a LOT of dependable boards that have given their owners years of proud ownership. They do, however, always seem to place overclockability high on their priority list.

 

[Gerbil333]

Although Gigabyte has passive boards, their solution isn't nearly as good as this. I've seen and touched the heatsink on the passive Gigabyte nF4 board and it gets hot. Plus, the guy said most other nF4 boards are much less of a pain to work with (as for compatibility). The heatsink ran fairly warm. I'd suspect that Abit's copper heatpipe solution should work much better, and I've had good experiences with 3 out of 3 of their boards.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

honestly, the moment when i wrote this i was more thinking about a Gigabyte X800XL, which is also cooled passively. But ur right, there are fanless nf4 board from Gigabyte too. But i think Q-OTES (dont like that word...its just a heatpipe cooling after all) should be more efficient, cuz i heard nf4 can get pretty hot. On the other hand i remember my P4P800se, Chipset was +70°. So, maybe Q-otes isnt really necessary, but..it looks so good and i could never build something like that myself (with PhasePlanes or hammering some heatpipes together) - not with my two left hands.

btw: the line " Abit `starts selling` three new boards with Q-Otes" is a big exaggeration or hyerbole....ive not seen any of the boards in a store, nor preview, review etc. Still waiting and hoping it will be a matured board with good oc and quality.

 

[Fisher999]

Originally posted by: Gerbil333
Although Gigabyte has passive boards, their solution isn't nearly as good as this. I've seen and touched the heatsink on the passive Gigabyte nF4 board and it gets hot. Plus, the guy said most other nF4 boards are much less of a pain to work with (as for compatibility). The heatsink ran fairly warm. I'd suspect that Abit's copper heatpipe solution should work much better, and I've had good experiences with 3 out of 3 of their boards.

Gerbil, who is "the guy" ???

And, with all due respect, don't you think you are jumping the gun just a little ???

I think that this quote is very WISE:

q]Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
....ive not seen any of the boards in a store, nor preview, review etc. Still waiting and hoping it will be a matured board with good oc and quality.[/quote]

That's right BlingBlingArsch. We'll have to "wait and hope" because there just isn't enough information (tech reviews) and USER FEEDBACK on these boards to make a RATIONAL decision and Gerbil knows I've made some irrational component decisions.

How many times can you remember hearing early news about COMPANY X is about to release "ya da ya da ya da" - the MIRACLE product ??? Then people jump on the bandwagon because of the company's reputation and this MIRACLE product turns out to be a bug-ridden, compatibility or stability nightmare !!!

Common sense says.........cool one's jets...........sit back..........relax dawg............let the info and feedback filter in and let the chips fall where they may and THEN make a decision.

 

[Fisher999]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
honestly, the moment when i wrote this i was more thinking about a Gigabyte X800XL, which is also cooled passively. But ur right, there are fanless nf4 board from Gigabyte too...

I, too, though you talking about Gigabyte's NB cooling like in the link I provided in my post. Here's the edited post with the link.

Originally posted by: Fisher999
Very nice indeed! Remember, those of you drooling because of the PASSIVE solution to nb cooling, that ABIT is not the FIRST NF4 to hit the streets with such a solution. Gigabyte's GA-K8N Ultra-9 has it and has been available for a while...

 

[Fisher999]

Originally posted by: Gerbil333
Although Gigabyte has passive boards, their solution isn't nearly as good as this. I've seen and touched the heatsink on the passive Gigabyte nF4 board and it gets hot. Plus, the guy said most other nF4 boards are much less of a pain to work with (as for compatibility). The heatsink ran fairly warm. I'd suspect that Abit's copper heatpipe solution should work much better, and I've had good experiences with 3 out of 3 of their boards.

As you know Gerbil, I, unlike you, am not in a position to purchase one of the new ABIT boards, even if they do turn out to be what we hope they will be, because I have already purchased an Asus A8N-SLI/Athlon64 3200+ Venice "Combo" so I'm STUCK trying to figure out how to cool that dreaded HOT NB. I have purchased the Zalman NB47J and I also have called Asus and they tell me the replacement HSF is on it's way.

I'm a little confused (that's no surprise, lol) about what to do because I don't want to FRY the nf4SLI chip if the PASSIVE Zalman can't cut the mustard yet on the other hand the LATEST people to post on the Asus A8N FAN ISSUE THREAD have been saying excellent things about Asus's replacement HSF.

Sooooooooooo....... what to do ????

 

[Fallen Kell]

I just wonder if any large CPU heatsinks will fit with that heatpipe going so close to the CPU retention bracket....

 

[Fisher999]

Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
I just wonder if any large CPU heatsinks will fit with that heatpipe going so close to the CPU retention bracket....

That's a very interesting question Fallen Kell ! :gift:

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Heh. Yikes! Why did ASUS combine the NB and the SB into one :S

 

[Fisher999]

Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
Heh. Yikes! Why did ASUS combine the NB and the SB into one :S

Pentium:

Pentium: I think I know how you got your name !

WHYB (Where Have You Been ??? )

I'm j/k; you were help to me at my mobo/cpu thread and I appreciate it.

FYI:

Asus is not the company responsible for combining the NB and SB "into one" as you put it. This "integration" is part of the design of the nForce by nVidia.

The nVidia nForce4 mcp (media and communications processor) integrates most of the tradtional features of a northbridge and a southbridge into ONE chip. Without me going into specifics ( I am after all, a little rusty myself, lol) please go to this page for technical details on the BASIC nForce4, this page for technical details on the nForce4 ULTRA, this page for a QUICK overview of the summary of features for the nForce4 SLI (Scalable Link Interface) solution (for both AMD and Intel), this page for technical specifications for the nForce4 SLI solution for AMD platforms and finally this page for technical specifications for the nForce4 SLI solution for INTEL platforms.


nVidia's nForce chip (from the very first generation), while not being a perfect solution, has been quite a technological advance in computing by "doing away" with the NB/SB concept and all its limitations and bottlenecks.

Greg

P.S. I just HAD to reply to your post just to show that every once in a blue moon us old geezers can "one up" you young brainiacs, lol.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

Originally posted by: Fisher999

Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
I just wonder if any large CPU heatsinks will fit with that heatpipe going so close to the CPU retention bracket....

That's a very interesting question Fallen Kell ! :gift:

http://www.abit-usa.com/news/2005/20050425.php

From (allways the same) picture set it looks pretty spacious.

 

[Fisher999]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
http://www.abit-usa.com/news/2005/20050425.php

From (allways the same) picture set it looks pretty spacious.

Thanks for the link BlingBling...

Greg

 

[ackelind]

It can fit even the largest of heatsinks without any problems from what I can see

http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=22665