ABORTION - Why we know what we're doing is wrong.

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Ralphing

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Ok, this is not the place to be discussing this... I've been through this... and I don't mean the discussion.
End it please.
 

b0mbrman

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<< Ho boy.. you're seriously wanting to start a flame war, aren't you? In my opinion, there is just no point, since no amount of argument will change anyone's mind on this subject (you either believe in the Right to Life, or support the woman's Right to Choose, and there is no middle ground).
This is a waste of time.
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Well...Not really...I believe in life and I believe in choice...
 

Red Dawn

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<< Answering a simple question is not one of Elledan's strong suits. Why? Because he digs a hole and can't get out of it. There is no answer to save him, so he acts like an ass to steer away from the subject. Of course, he could prove me wrong by actually answering a question straight up. Hah! Like that'll happen >>

He couldn't do any better job of it than you.
 

bobcpg

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<< Virus's are often noted as the most primitive of living things, and have very little living capabilities and resources. (I'm not sure but they don't excrete, eat, or breath ?) >>



Virus's try to kill you, usually babies dont.
 

Mats

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Let's not forget that people are animals too.

Good one.

(You are joking right?)
 

mithrandir2001

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<< Fetus, patient... same thing. You couldn't legally turn off life support for somebody in a coma, and dependent on machines. Maybe that day will come, though. Will you be fighting for that too? >>


Well, again, the person in a coma is a legal citizen who has already been born, so they have natural rights. But you can legally turn off life support for these individuals under current law if that is the best choice in terminal cases. I also generally favor right-to-die statutes. I ground my positions with the ideal that each living individual ultimately has control over their own lives that nobody can take away; that includes permitting mothers to exercise reproductive health choices. When the potential rights of two entities directly conflict - that of the mother and that of the unborn - it is only just to side with the legitimately living mother. Otherwise, you are tipping the scales too far in favor of something that cannot even think on its own rather than a living human. That is the part of the equation that abortion abolition does not consider: the mother. It's too insensitive to the needs of the living and this is why I support maintaining women's choices.
 

Raspewtin

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<< Virus's try to kill you, usually babies dont. >>



most viruses don't try to kill you. that would make no sense b/c when the host dies, so does the virus. They just use you for propegation

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god, these abortion threads gets old. I wonder if there has every been a single person who has had their opinion changed by these threads. what a waste of energy IMO. what a stupid initial post designed purely to create more of this crap.
 

So

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<< Just Subscribed to this thread.


Haha...me too now maybe I won't feel so lonely with a full e-mailbox




KeyserSoze
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and I do have an opinion on the subject, but I refuse to add fuel to this fire.
 

Circlenaut

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A dark child waiting for birth waits and waits. Then the time comes to bring life but when the child comes the priest says "Kill the demon, kill it"!!!

More oxygen,fuel and heat to the fire.











meh
 

spamsk8r

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I think in the entrance to every abortion clinic they should have a jar with an aborted baby in it for people to see what it actually does to the little person inside your body, that would be much more effective than people picketting in changing peoples minds.

Just my gas on the flame
 

Sundaygirl

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<<I think in the entrance to every abortion clinic they should have a jar with an aborted baby in it for people to see what it actually does to the little person inside your body, that would be much more effective than people picketting in changing peoples minds.>>

I would think someone who is Pro Life would prefer a decent funeral for the fetus as opposed to displaying it forever on counter top. What an interesting way to show respect towards life? Maybe there should be jars of adults killed by drunk drivers in liquor stores and bars just to show people what really happens. That might be more effective than commercials and organizations like MADD. (note for anyone unsure...that was sarcastic)

Very interesting idea. I shall resume my Pro-Choice stance especially after hearing that. That seems like even less respect for life.


 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Well well well, Sundaygirl, extending a thought out to it's logical consequences. What a facinating way to approach things.
 

ThisIsMatt

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<< <<I think in the entrance to every abortion clinic they should have a jar with an aborted baby in it for people to see what it actually does to the little person inside your body, that would be much more effective than people picketting in changing peoples minds.>>

I would think someone who is Pro Life would prefer a decent funeral for the fetus as opposed to displaying it forever on counter top. What an interesting way to show respect towards life? Maybe there should be jars of adults killed by drunk drivers in liquor stores and bars just to show people what really happens. That might be more effective than commercials and organizations like MADD. (note for anyone unsure...that was sarcastic)

Very interesting idea. I shall resume my Pro-Choice stance especially after hearing that. That seems like even less respect for life.
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Not a bad idea...
 

xirtam

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Sundaygirl: I think those who are revolted by the new "display the dead baby" policy will admit that the baby in the jar was a life, whereas true "pro-choicers" will recognize the truth -- that it's just a "blob of tissue." If it's just a blob of tissue, then there's not going to be any lack of respect for life in displaying it out in the foyer of an abortion clinic. Of course, if liposuction clinics followed the same policy...

I think you just validified a pro-life position. Nobody's arguing whether or not the people involved in a drunk driving accident were at one point "alive."
 
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