Abortion

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: loki8481
if it's not viable, I don't consider it a life. I don't think the church does either. if they did, masturbation would be murder and there would be graves for every aborted and miscarried fetus.

Masturbation is not conception.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Stefan
I don't believe that women should be allowed to abort a child on the grounds that they used bad judgement and made a mistake.

No. Instead, let's force them to bear children they don't want and are totally unpripared to care for. Let's encourage them to beat and neglect these kids and raise a bunch of psychological basket cases.

What do you guys think of my opinion?

I think you don't have a right to such an uninformed opinion until you've been a pregnant single woman. Once you've done that, you'll have a much better idea of what they face. Until you do, your best option to avoid embarassing yourself in public is to keep silent, if only to avoid proving your ignorance.

why not instead promote adoption Harvey?? really why are so many against that?...I have known more than a few women who as girls had abortions and it was the single biggest mistake of their lives (according to them), and I also know those who use it as a form of birth control....seriously people are abusing the system for their carelessness and laziness.

 

[Rookie]

Originally posted by: RussianSoldier

Originally posted by: dnetmhz
*lawn chair / popcorn*

 

[Turin39789]

PURPLE MONKEY DISHWASHER

 

[jyates]

Originally posted by: TheBDB

I don't believe that women should be allowed to abort a child on the grounds that they used bad judgement and made a mistake.

I don't believe a child should have to live with their parents mistake.

I don't think a child should have to die because of their parent's mistake
and I use the word "parent" very loosely here.

A parent is far more than just a person who gives of an egg or sperm.

 

[NeoHC421]

Originally posted by: Atomicus
Pro-life. Bad decisions can turn out for the better. Even if raising a child by yourself will be hard, at least give it a chance and raise it with the morals and values that you wish you had when you got pregnant.

hahaha raise it with the morals you wish you had when you got pregnant... HAHAhAHA

 

God I'm glad none of you moron moral warriors are into making policy.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: bozack
why not instead promote adoption Harvey?? really why are so many against that?...I have known more than a few women who as girls had abortions and it was the single biggest mistake of their lives (according to them), and I also know those who use it as a form of birth control....seriously people are abusing the system for their carelessness and laziness.

Adoption is nice for those children who are born and need the care... if they can get it. Some children of unwanted pregnancies are not easily adoptable for a number of reasons.

• Children of mothers who use drugs, including tobacco, alcohol, cocaine, speed and others, are very likely to be born with lifelong imparements and little chance of a normal childhood or adulthood.
  
• Women impregnated by rape should not be forced to go through a full term pregnancy. The rape was bad enough. If she was in school, even if she returns, the pregnancy will disrupt her life forever, both educationally and socially. Some women may choose to have a child of rape, but NO woman should be forced to do so by law.
  
• Sadly, and through no fault of their own, children of mixed ethnic and racial parents are more difficult to place.
  
• Regardless of any and all good intent, one more pregnancy is one more mouth to feed in a world where there are already far too few resources to care for far too many poor, hungry, homeless, unwanted, uncared for children, and the prospects for reversing this condition are not soon in coming. The last thing we need on this planet is more unplanned and unwanted children. We have more than enough of a challenge dealing with those already here and those we know are coming, regardless of how many birth contol measures and safe abortion facilities there are.

Finally, even in a world where every unwanted child could be adopted into an ideal, loving, caring family environment, some women will choose to terminate their pregnancies for any number of reasons, whether or not you approve of their reasons.

It will NEVER be a question of whether there will be abortions. The only choice is whether we, as a society, allow it to happen in a safe, competent medical environment, or we condemn the women who seek them to the dangers of unsafe, unsupervised back alley practices.

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon
I think people should make their own choices...

I think OREOSpeedwagon is pro-death.

lol I just think that if the mother (or father, if he doesn't ditch them) don't have time to take care of the kid (i.e. if they're in college and working full time too, only home a few hours of the day) than it's probably better to get an abortion. if the kid is not going to get raised right, it'd be worse for the kid....

definatly pro death.

 

[DarkKnight]

There should be a partial birth abortion ban. When a baby is starts looking like an actual baby I think abortion becomes murder. Aborting a couple of cells is one thing, but killing an almost developed baby that can feel pain and suffering is another. A couple of weeks should ben enough for a woman to decide whether to get an abortion.

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: DarkKnight
There should be a partial birth abortion ban. When a baby is starts looking like an actual baby I think abortion becomes murder. Aborting a couple of cells is one thing, but killing an almost developed baby that can feel pain and suffering is another. A couple of weeks should ben enough for a woman to decide whether to get an abortion.

When does it start to look like a baby?

 

[RobCur]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Stefan
I don't believe that women should be allowed to abort a child on the grounds that they used bad judgement and made a mistake.

No. Instead, let's force them to bear children they don't want and are totally unpripared to care for. Let's encourage them to beat and neglect these kids and raise a bunch of psychological basket cases.

What do you guys think of my opinion?

I think you don't have a right to such an uninformed opinion until you've been a pregnant single woman. Once you've done that, you'll have a much better idea of what they face. Until you do, your best option to avoid embarassing yourself in public is to keep silent, if only to avoid proving your ignorance.

why not instead promote adoption Harvey?? really why are so many against that?...I have known more than a few women who as girls had abortions and it was the single biggest mistake of their lives (according to them), and I also know those who use it as a form of birth control....seriously people are abusing the system for their carelessness and laziness.

Girls who kill their babies aren't really girl, their boys living in a girl's body who hates babies!!!


:evil:

 

[JohnCU]

What if Einstein had been aborted?

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
What if Einstein had been aborted?

A bunch of Japanese would still be alive.

 

[ThisIsMatt]

I think we should go ahead and abort the mom as well.

 

[Wuffsunie]

Originally posted by: JohnCU
What if Einstein had been aborted?

What if it had been Stalin?

This is about the poorest argument one can make, as it's so easy to turn around. Especially when the person in question was never in danger of being aborted in the first place.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: RobCur
Girls who kill their babies aren't really girl, their boys living in a girl's body who hates babies!!!
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
I think we should go ahead and abort the mom as well.

There are only two possible excuses for such lame statements, ignorance or stupidity. If you don't know the difference, it's definitely the latter. :frown:

 

[jyates]

Originally posted by: Wuffsunie

Originally posted by: JohnCU
What if Einstein had been aborted?

What if it had been Stalin?

This is about the poorest argument one can make, as it's so easy to turn around. Especially when the person in question was never in danger of being aborted in the first place.

In today's world every fetus is in danger of being aborted because
of the myriad of reasons to abort.

 

[ThisIsMatt]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: RobCur
Girls who kill their babies aren't really girl, their boys living in a girl's body who hates babies!!!
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
I think we should go ahead and abort the mom as well.

There are only two possible excuses for such lame statements, ignorance or stupidity. If you don't know the difference, it's definitely the latter. :frown:

I'm just sayin...if the woman is in such a poor state that she can't find a viable option for the baby besides abortion, then maybe she's not contributing to society and we don't need her either

 

[BigToque]

No. Instead, let's force them to bear children they don't want and are totally unpripared to care for.

They know that having sex can lead to pregnancy. If they are unprepared to handle the burden of a child, they should not be having sex. End of story. No Discussion.

Let's encourage them to beat and neglect these kids and raise a bunch of psychological basket cases.

That?s a pretty dumb thing to say.

I think you don't have a right to such an uninformed opinion until you've been a pregnant single woman. Once you've done that, you'll have a much better idea of what they face. Until you do, your best option to avoid embarassing yourself in public is to keep silent, if only to avoid proving your ignorance.

So you are a pregnant single mother? If not, you are just as uninformed and ignorant as I am. Maybe you should keep silent to avoid embarrassing yourself with such ridiculous comments. You should learn to spell as well.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Stefan

No. Instead, let's force them to bear children they don't want and are totally unpripared to care for.

They know that having sex can lead to pregnancy. If they are unprepared to handle the burden of a child, they should not be having sex. End of story. No Discussion.

Let's encourage them to beat and neglect these kids and raise a bunch of psychological basket cases.

That?s a pretty dumb thing to say.

I think you don't have a right to such an uninformed opinion until you've been a pregnant single woman. Once you've done that, you'll have a much better idea of what they face. Until you do, your best option to avoid embarassing yourself in public is to keep silent, if only to avoid proving your ignorance.

So you are a pregnant single mother? If not, you are just as uninformed and ignorant as I am. Maybe you should keep silent to avoid embarrassing yourself with such ridiculous comments. You should learn to spell as well.

"That?s a pretty dumb thing to say."
Funny, that's more or less exactly how I feel about everything you said.

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Stefan

No. Instead, let's force them to bear children they don't want and are totally unpripared to care for.

They know that having sex can lead to pregnancy. If they are unprepared to handle the burden of a child, they should not be having sex. End of story. No Discussion.

Let's encourage them to beat and neglect these kids and raise a bunch of psychological basket cases.

That?s a pretty dumb thing to say.

I think you don't have a right to such an uninformed opinion until you've been a pregnant single woman. Once you've done that, you'll have a much better idea of what they face. Until you do, your best option to avoid embarassing yourself in public is to keep silent, if only to avoid proving your ignorance.

So you are a pregnant single mother? If not, you are just as uninformed and ignorant as I am. Maybe you should keep silent to avoid embarrassing yourself with such ridiculous comments. You should learn to spell as well.

"That?s a pretty dumb thing to say."
Funny, that's more or less exactly how I feel about everything you said.

:roll:
Funny, I don't seem to care how you feel.

 

[nakedfrog]

:roll:
Funny, I don't seem to care how you feel.

Oh, please, I know you have to cry yourself to sleep at night, dying for my approval of your lifestyle and thought patterns.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Stefan
So you are a pregnant single mother? If not, you are just as uninformed and ignorant as I am. Maybe you should keep silent to avoid embarrassing yourself with such ridiculous comments. You should learn to spell as well.

Gee, Stefan. I was in a hurry when I typed that, so I'm sorry I misspelled impaired, and dropped a keystroke in control.

I've never been a a pregnant single mother, but neither am I trying to impose my moral values on someone else so my comment is hardly ridiculous.

They know that having sex can lead to pregnancy. If they are unprepared to handle the burden of a child, they should not be having sex. End of story. No Discussion.

Hardly the end of the story. Your statement isn't even worthy of being the beginning of the story. Knowing that sex causes pregnancy doesn't stop it or do anything to deal with the results.

That?s a pretty dumb thing to say.

It is? Statisitcally, children who are the results of unwanted pregnacies are far more likely to have emotional problems, as are their parents, and kids born to crack, speed and junkie mothers are well known to be starting from an even worse position, both emotionally and from chemical damage when they were still fetusus. Not allowing safe, early termination of unwanted pregnancies is, in fact, promoting the births of more such damaged children.

Maybe you should stop embarrassing yourself with ad hominem attacks on me when you have nothing to say and less to support it. Do you ever open your mouth to do anything but change feet? :Q

 

[imported_slavik]

quote from the first reply: "I am pro choice"

will that be Coke or Pepsi?