Nice which model is that? 50"? I just picked up a LG 50PK550, awesome set.
Seems like a dumb pool.
Might ought to think about getting a dog.A real dog,not a yap yap dog.Look around your local shelter for German Shepard pups,or see a breeder.No one wants to confront a big dog.Plus get a weapon or two and I would get steel doors/bars on windows.I've lived in Louisiana for over fifty years and can count on one hand the times I have had to go to New Orleans,all but one on business.
Yes, it was a lame joke... but the police are not so inept to accept the words of a suspected murderer as proof positive.
One can state they will defend their property with lethal force all they want.. but those same folks will have to accept the fact that they are now criminals themselves (at least in many jurisdictions). I'd go to great lengths to avoid living the rest of my life as a murderer.
Yes, it was a lame joke... but the police are not so inept to accept the words of a suspected murderer as proof positive.
One can state they will defend their property with lethal force all they want.. but those same folks will have to accept the fact that they are now criminals themselves (at least in many jurisdictions). I'd go to great lengths to avoid living the rest of my life as a murderer.
Yes, it was a lame joke... but the police are not so inept to accept the words of a suspected murderer as proof positive.
One can state they will defend their property with lethal force all they want.. but those same folks will have to accept the fact that they are now criminals themselves (at least in many jurisdictions). I'd go to great lengths to avoid living the rest of my life as a murderer.
knowing me, I'd probably end up giving the douchebag first aid after all this tough talk... lol.I can understand that sentiment, but as much as I support castle law, I don't think I'd adhere to it. It's a bit too harsh. If I just capped a guy in my house and he's on the floor bleeding out, I'm not gonna walk up to him and put a pill in his head. If he still had a gun I might.
I'm not saying you'd be that barbaric.
A killer, perhaps. A murderer? Killing in self-defense isn't, or shouldn't be, murder.
Defending your home and property does not make you a murderer. I think the majority of Americans would agree with that statement.
But by the definition of the law, in many places it does. It certainly does in most of Europe and all of Canada.
Daedalus: Here's the thing, say some guy breaks through my window with a crowbar. I have no clue as to his intentions, other than that they are violent. There is no way to tell if he's there to steal my TV, kill my future family, or both. So what's safer for me, and by extension for my future family? To engage him in H2H with whatever's handy (if any) or to bust out a firearm and kill him from a distance? Let alone if there's more than one assailant.
Anyone breaks into my house, I will quite literally be "afraid for my life" (legal defense) and they'll be greeted by some form of lead. Period.
That said, if you live in an area where crime is so low you feel as safe as you do, more power to you. Here's a story though: I grew up in a DC suburb, one of the richest, whitest areas in the country. The public schools I went to are on par with most areas' private schools. Back in high school I got takeout from the same place, same time after school virtually every day for a couple of months. This place was in what was widely considered to be an extremely safe area. One day I go in, get my take-out as usual, and come out to a Hispanic guy with a weird ear ring (later confirmed as a gang sign) with his face pressed against my car's window. We notice each other when I'm about 20' away, and he gives me an eyes wide death glare. I drop eye contact and walk evasively back toward the restaurant (where there were people), and he eventually got in his car and drove off. But I had nothing at the time and had he come at me I probably would have been screwed. This was in broad daylight.
Bottom line, bad shit can happen anywhere. I got lucky. Experiences like that (I've got a few other less severe tales) are why I will soon own and carry. Not that I'm counting on them, but they happen. I can't say I understand how you can feel safe knowing that you, personally, would be completely helpless in the moment of crisis if it came. Not that you should live your life around it, but I feel being able to competently defend yourself (and potentially others) is just one of those life skills everyone should know. Like driving or some basic form of a sport. Besides, if nothing else going out with friends and shooting is fun.
No but state and federal prosecuters do. If you shoot someone and/or kill them, it better have been because you had a reasonable fear of great bodily harm or loss of life (or the defense of another from the same).
You'll be in deep water if you shoot someone running out of your house with a TV, even with a castle doctrine, but the law says you can stop them from leaving with your property with reasonable physical force, then escalate to deadly force when they confront you and become a threat.
Almost every castle doctrine law stil requires that the person was a threat and that the action was justfied under the normal use for force laws. Castle doctrine does not give a licence to unconditionally shoot or kill someone for being in your house. It only gives you legal immunity if you do end up shooting or killing someone in your house for a valid reason as defined by the regular laws regarding use of force.
Im sure if someone made such a retarded generalization about a minority you would be calling them a racist.
Ok.. but my first reaction would be to threaten them verbally.. why on earth would I shoot unless I knew exactly what their intentions were? Despite my moral objection to doing that, it is unquestionably murder where I live.
I feel safe because I understand statistics. It is not worth worrying about things will likely never happen to me and even if someone did break in only another rare fraction would be a situation I could not handle.. If it really came down to it as a last resort I could run away.. or I could die trying.. but that would be the same in some situations regardless of the weapons I possess.
I'm confused how you think I am unable to defend myself.. I am quite capable of looking after my own.. I don't feel I need a gun for that.. Mind you it is not an option to me anyway given the laws of the land. Regardless of how "prepared" I am there is some situation I could dream up where it would not be enough... seems I drew the line of "who bloody cares, it is not worth worrying about" a bit earlier than some others.
I mean, if my neighbour got beaten and robbed in his own home my first reaction would not be "I should get a gun" but "what can I do to make sure that sort of thing is far less likely in the future."
To Nick. I can only claim I know it is murder in those places I said right after I don't know where it is illegal in the states, but I'm sure there are many states that have very similar laws to Canada. I don't understand how the act of killing someone could be anything but a terrible thing, required or not.
No one is implying that one should flee their own home... but just that most criminals are likely sacred out of their pants in the first place... they don't want to have to steal for a living (most anyway) and that simply screaming at them to get the hell out would often be enough.. Any assertion of threat on the part of the home owner would likely be enough.. Besides that, I have no desire to spend the rest of my life in jail, thus I would not kill burglar unless I absolutely had to (the only time I would not be up on second degree murder charges).
You must lead a very sheltered life. You actually believe criminals are scared?
Of course when I found out I had polio and an IQ of 30, it took some of the shine off, but hell, it was still good.
I guess that depends on the place one lives. In most of the world "he was stealing my property" is not self defence. It is in fact second degree murder.
Yes, because you would be a murderer and a coward... I have a hard time labelling anyone who shoots without actually being in threat of death themselves as anything but a coward.
You must lead a very sheltered life. You actually believe criminals are scared?
It was a sawed off double barrel, maybe 10' away, the first shot was right at the top left of my pelvis which sent me to the ground, didn't knock me down, but my leg just stopped supporting me, the second shot he ran up to me, and put the gun about three feet from my face, I pulled my leg in between the barrel and my head and the shot went through my calf and into the rear of my thigh. After wards I got up, and chased the motherfucker but couldn't catch him, so I jumped in his car, and ran over him, then drove myself to call the hospital.
So no, a .410 isn't good for defense, as it is too under powered for non-precision shooting but it can penetrate, and if hit in a more critical area can definitely kill, that was my point.
I personally carry a Glock 26, and use a SBR .223 for home defense. It's small enough to be very maneuverable, powerful enough to kill at both close, and medium range, but the short barrel keeps the over penetration of neighbors walls to a minimum.
When a person who you know is a criminal is walking toward you even after you've told them to stop, what do you think their intentions are? A friendly chat?
You're willfully ignorant and horribly naive.
Wow... you win the Internet sir..You should have just made a noise. According to that pansy Canuck in this thread, that would have been enough to prevent him from shooting you.
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I had a few questions to you guys regarding gun ownership, which are reflected in the attached polls.
Thanks.