? about Jehovah's Witnesses

[ravanux]

I was at the entrance to my work and a women dropped by some small magazines titled "Awake!". She simply asked that we put them in our break room so that people could read them. I figured it was religous magazine and no big deal. I didn't have a problem putting them in our break room. But, before I could one of the ladies I work with stopped me and asked who they were from. I said I didn't know but that I thought they were some religous magazines. I asked her and if she wanted them and she said she'd look at them. A minute later she gave them back and said she didnt want them because they were from Jehovah's Witnesses. I asked her what the big deal was and she said "I don't accept anything from Jehovah's Witnesses!" I asked her what is wrong with JW and she said that she doesn't agree with what they believe so she doesn't want their information. I asked her what her religous preference is and she said Christian. I'm Catholic so I asked her if she would accept something from a Catholic and she said sure. I also asked if she would accept something from a Mormon. And she said she would accept it from a Mormon before she would from a JW. I was still a little confused, so I asked what was so different about JW and she said "They are just different." And my response was that most Christian religions are different but she would still accept something from them. Her response "Jehovah's Witnesses are more different." WTF does that mean? My boss then walked in and joined the conversation (he is "Christian" also) and he pretty much agreed with the other lady.
So what is the deal with Jehovah's Witnesses? Are they Christians or what? Are they innately evil? Whats goin on?

 

[AmigaMan]

shhhh it's a conspiracy and they just haven't told you yet.

j/k actually I don't know why it is. I don't like the JW or mormon religion either. I could ask my wife. SHe's a religious studies major so she might have a clue.

 

[kami]

I wouldn't have any problems with them if they'd stop knocking on my damn door at ungodly hours! Like 8am on a Saturday!

 

[AzAbyss]

This might help.

-Az

 

[killface]

Well, most people hate Jehovah's witnesses because they always get bothered by them. The deal is, they believe there are only X number of slots in heaven. For every person you convert to the religion, you get points, so the people with the most points get the heaven slots. I'm sure this is a gross simplification of it, but that's all I know.

 

[Kenji4861]

What the heck is a Jehovah's Witness?

 

[Captain4]

<< This might help.

-Az >>



The authors of that site seem pretty bitter. JW's are part of a cult? Ouch. :Q

 

[metallibloke]

Dare I ask what they witnessed Jehovah doing?

There were some religuous types coming round knocking on doors last weekend, but I ignored, mainly because I didnt want to waste my time answering the door when I knew straight away i wouldnt be interested.

 

[AzAbyss]

<< The authors of that site seem pretty bitter. JW's are part of a cult? Ouch. :Q >>



Yeah, but I've found that they do a pretty accurate job of describing the basic beliefs of the "mysterious" religions.

-Az

 

[DAM]

<< This might help.

-Az >>




man that site is so biased, you can hit the jw's site at www.watchtower.org.


OHH and btw, JW (most atleast) dont want to go to heaven, there are 144000 slots in heaven and thats it, and only those will get in, everyone else who does good and follows JW teachings will live in paradise on earth not heaven.




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[Jzero]

<<

<< This might help.

-Az >>



The authors of that site seem pretty bitter. JW's are part of a cult? Ouch. :Q >>


I think Religious Tolerance is a little more unbiased than a site on Christian Apologetics

 

[ravanux]

It says on that site If you ever leave the Jehovah's Witness organization, you are considered an apostate and are to be shunned.
What exactly is an apostate?

EDIT: I also found this- Additionally, the Jehovah's Witness organization requires of its members regular weekly attendance at their "Bible Study" meetings where they are repeatedly indoctrinated with anti-Christian teachings. This is done by reading the Watchtower magazine, following along with what it says, reading the questions it asks, and reciting the answers it gives. In other words, the Watchtower Organization carefully trains its members to let the Organization do their thinking for them.
Don't the members realize what is happening?

 

[DAM]

apostate: to my knowledge you are considered a "false prophet" not in the exact sense, like a wolf in sheeps skin or something like that, however, if you are expelled from the organization you can always come back, its not like youre flogged or anything like that, but you loose some "priviliges"





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[DAM]

<< It says on that site If you ever leave the Jehovah's Witness organization, you are considered an apostate and are to be shunned.
What exactly is an apostate?

EDIT: I also found this- Additionally, the Jehovah's Witness organization requires of its members regular weekly attendance at their "Bible Study" meetings where they are repeatedly indoctrinated with anti-Christian teachings. This is done by reading the Watchtower magazine, following along with what it says, reading the questions it asks, and reciting the answers it gives. In other words, the Watchtower Organization carefully trains its members to let the Organization do their thinking for them.
Don't the members realize what is happening? >>





LOL dude that site, is quite biased dont believe everything you read there.



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[Blain]

I believe the reason many Christians will not accept JW or LDS materials is based on the instruction found in the Second Epistle Of John, verses 7 - 11...

"7. For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8. Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9. Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11. For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

 

[ravanux]

<< apostate: to my knowledge you are considered a "false prophet" not in the exact sense, like a wolf in sheeps skin or something like that, however, if you are expelled from the organization you can always come back, its not like youre flogged or anything like that, but you loose some "priviliges" >>


What exactly do you mean by "priviliges"?

 

[Pothead]

all they do is knock on your door and if you try to close your door, they stick thier foot in to block you! :disgust:

 

[DAM]

but arent JWs christians too???





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[DAM]

<<

<< apostate: to my knowledge you are considered a "false prophet" not in the exact sense, like a wolf in sheeps skin or something like that, however, if you are expelled from the organization you can always come back, its not like youre flogged or anything like that, but you loose some "priviliges" >>


What exactly do you mean by "priviliges"? >>





that i remember, were things like being able to answer questions in a meeting, or being able to help out with the duties around their meeting place, simple things, but in the JW church its those things that improve your standing with God and within the Organization.




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[DAM]

<< all they do is knock on your door and if you try to close your door, they stick thier foot in to block you! :disgust: >>





most dont do that, actually none should, but like in every world there are those rotten apples, however, you can just tell them, you know I dont want to be ever visited by you, and they will write down your addy and put you in the do not visit list. simple dude, just use your head.




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[yakko]

Sounds like you work with a couple of bigots.

 

[chiwawa626]

<< What do the Jehovah's Witnesses Teach?

There is one God in one person, Make Sure of All Things, p 188.
There is no Trinity, Let God be True, p. 100-101; Make Sure of All Things, p.386.
The Holy Spirit is a force, not alive, Reasoning from the Scriptures, 1985, pp.
406-407.
The Holy Spirit is God's impersonal active force, The Watchtower, June 1, 1952,
p. 24.
Jehovah's first creation was his 'only-begotten Son'. . . was used by Jehovah in
creating all other things", Aid to Bible Understanding, pp. 390-391.
Jesus was Michael the archangel who became a man, The Watchtower, May 15,
1963, p. 307; The New World, 284.
Jesus was only a perfect man, not God in flesh, Reasoning from the Scriptures,
1985, pp. 306.
Jesus did not rise from the dead in his physical body, Awake! July 22, 1973, p. 4.
Jesus was raised "not a human creature, but a spirit." Let God be True, p. 276.
Jesus did not die on a cross but on a stake, Reasoning from the Scriptures, 1985,
pp. 89-90.
Jesus returned to earth, invisibly, in 1914, The Truth Shall Make You Free, p. 300.
Jesus' ransom sacrifice did not include Adam, Let God be True, p. 119.
Their church is the self-proclaimed prophet of God, The Watchtower, April 1,
1972, p. 197.
They claim to be the only channel of God's truth, The Watchtower, Feb. 15,
1981, p. 19.
Only their church members will be saved, The Watchtower, Feb, 15, 1979, p. 30.
Good works are necessary for salvation, Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 1,
pp. 150, 152.
The soul ceases to exist after death, Let God be True, p. 59, 60, 67.
There is no hell of fire where the wicked are punished, Let God be True, p. 79, 80.
Only 144,000 Jehovah's Witness go to heaven, Reasoning from the Scriptures,
1985, pp. 166-167, 361; Let God be True, p. 121.
Only the 144,000 Jehovah's Witness are born again. Reasoning from the
Scriptures, 1985, p. 76.; Watchtower 11/15/54, p. 681.
Only the 144,000 may take communion,
Blood transfusions are a sin, Reasoning from the Scriptures, 1985, pp. 72-73.
The Cross is a pagan symbol and should not be used, Reasoning from the
Scriptures, 1985, pp. 90-92.
Salvation is by faith and what you do, Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 1, pp.
150,152.
It is possible to lose your salvation, Reasoning from the Scriptures, 1985, pp.
358-359.
The universe is billions of years old, Your will Be Done on Earth, p. 43.
Each of the 6 creative days of God in Genesis 1, was 7000 years long.
Therefore, Man was created toward the end of 42,000 years of earth's
preparation, Let God be True, p. 168.
They also refuse to vote, salute the flag, sing the "Star Spangled Banner," or
celebrate Christmas or birthdays. They are not allowed to serve in the armed
forces.
Satan was entrusted with the obligation and charged with the duty of
overseeing the creation of the earth, Children, p 55
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wtf bloodtransfusions a sin? why

 

[Blain]

Forget about transfusions...
What about Christmas & Pledge of Allegiance?

No more goodies? :Q

 

[ravanux]

<< Forget about transfusions...
What about Christmas & Pledge of Allegiance?

No more goodies? :Q >>


That would mean I would lose my GBA!:Q

 

[Jzero]

Wow...they refuse to vote?!
So if the country (in some bizarre theoretical world) was a majority of JWs, and somehow an insane pseudo Nazi was running unopposed and his major platform plank was the extermination of all JWs, they'd either leave the country or allow this guy into office simply b/c they don't believe in voting...

Weird....I knew a little about JWs, but that's one fact I didn't...