About Joe the Plumber

[First]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: jbourne77

What took place in the first few days after Joe's "initial exposure" is an embarrassment to the human race, no matter who does it. I don't care what the political affiliation is.

I'd like to hear what you're referring to specifically. If the worst you can come up with is that MSNBC reported his real first name and the fact that he wasn't making anywhere near 250K, didn't have a license, etc., then it's pretty clear to the vast majority of people this is nowhere near as bad as your portrayal of "embarrassment to the human race".

Why was Joe even being investigated to this extent at this point? What I'm referring to is that we had government officials in Ohio investigating the man, and the media/public trying to get their hands on every facet of his personal life that they could. A simple question never warranted such a response. But people were so infuriated over the exchange between him and Obama (more specifically, infuriated that people took notice) that they couldn't see straight.

This guy wasn't even investigated until the very moment McCain mentioned him, nothing was reported on him before that, and knowing this fact (which I don't know if you understand), it isn't the least bit surprising the media investigated the guy (the Ohio official who did the search has no excuse, though). MSNBC doing the most intense reporting surprises no one, just as Fox doing intense reporting on Obama WRT some random guy like Father Phleger surprises no one. It's a hit job but certainly not as extreme as you're going.

All I have to say at this point is that I don't ever want to hear about the "swift boating" of John Kerry again. At least he was running for President.

Now, comparing Joe the Plumber's mistakes/misrepresentation of some minor facts to John Kerry being swiftboated is truly an embarrassment. One guy's real name and back taxes was revealed, the other guy was wrongfully accused of faking his purple hearts. Gimme a break, nowhere near comparable. :roll:

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Gotcha, we should not ever try to take advantage of chance happenings in our life. And if people do, they should have their lives destroyed for it. I don't have any issues with the Obama camp going after Joe to a certain extent, but to try to destroy them is going to far. But, I am sure you will continue to make excuses for Obama for the next 4 years.. Hopefully you never get on the wrong end of the Obama hate machine. If Bush had did the same thing to someone supporting YOUR positions, you would be frothing at the mouth like Harvey calling for his impeachment on war crimes (ok, now THAT was childish..)

I wasn't aware Joe was destroyed. Also it's good to see you back posting with the same venom you did under your other handle.

His post wasn't venomous at all. As far as Joe goes, he was destroyed. Granted, after awhile he was simply inviting it, but the first 24 hours after his "initial exposure" was a very, very disgusting and depressing moment in our political history. While people like you were calling McCain out for his negative ads, Joe the Plumber was having his entrails ripped out, diced, and served for dinner by Obama's supporters. It was truly sad.

Of course if the shoe was on the other foot, if he had confronted McCain and Obama then used him for his talking points in the Debate I'm sure the Republicans led by Hannity and Limbaugh would have eviscerated the guy and none of you would have made a peep in his defense.

I thought we don't entertain such hypotheticals around here? Conjecture this, conjecture that, whenever I make such statements I'm stopped dead in my tracks on it, no matter how obvious it may be. But since there seems to be a small window of opportunity...

... if the shoe truly was on the other foot, you'd be chastising Republicans for stomping out the little guy with Rovian tactics just because he dared question the "Traitor in Chief". This would be one more shining example of why "Repugs" were cretinous bastards capable of any evil necessary to ensure victory.

What took place in the first few days after Joe's "initial exposure" is an embarrassment to the human race, no matter who does it. I don't care what the political affiliation is.

Actually I believe most of us in this thread are just arguing for the sake of arguing and that we really couldn't give a shit about this guy one way or another. I know I don't but if you say he was wronged I'll go along with it just because you say so.

1. Man asks difficult question of my candidate. Must destroy him to nullify point.
2. Eww... in hindsight that isn't very pretty. Must minimize events and trivialize this "stranger".

LOL,listen to you. Sometimes it seems you actually believe this crap you're posting. Poor Joe the Plumber, I bet he's doing better than he was before John the McCain exploited him.

Strike a nerve, did I? Bolded = likewise

When it hits you that this isn't really about Joe, specifically, let me know.

LOL, that was obvious from your first post.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: jbourne77

What took place in the first few days after Joe's "initial exposure" is an embarrassment to the human race, no matter who does it. I don't care what the political affiliation is.

I'd like to hear what you're referring to specifically. If the worst you can come up with is that MSNBC reported his real first name and the fact that he wasn't making anywhere near 250K, didn't have a license, etc., then it's pretty clear to the vast majority of people this is nowhere near as bad as your portrayal of "embarrassment to the human race".

Why was Joe even being investigated to this extent at this point? What I'm referring to is that we had government officials in Ohio investigating the man, and the media/public trying to get their hands on every facet of his personal life that they could. A simple question never warranted such a response. But people were so infuriated over the exchange between him and Obama (more specifically, infuriated that people took notice) that they couldn't see straight.

All I have to say at this point is that I don't ever want to hear about the "swift boating" of John Kerry again. At least he was running for President.

Joe the Douchebag was lying through his teeth and he got busted, why in the world you would choose to defend him is beyond reason.

I have clearly addressed this. I'll state it more simply: yes, it turned out he was lying. Yes, he is an attention whore. However, his pillaging commenced before this. You just got lucky ... this time.

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: jbourne77

What took place in the first few days after Joe's "initial exposure" is an embarrassment to the human race, no matter who does it. I don't care what the political affiliation is.

I'd like to hear what you're referring to specifically. If the worst you can come up with is that MSNBC reported his real first name and the fact that he wasn't making anywhere near 250K, didn't have a license, etc., then it's pretty clear to the vast majority of people this is nowhere near as bad as your portrayal of "embarrassment to the human race".

Why was Joe even being investigated to this extent at this point? What I'm referring to is that we had government officials in Ohio investigating the man, and the media/public trying to get their hands on every facet of his personal life that they could. A simple question never warranted such a response. But people were so infuriated over the exchange between him and Obama (more specifically, infuriated that people took notice) that they couldn't see straight.

All I have to say at this point is that I don't ever want to hear about the "swift boating" of John Kerry again. At least he was running for President.

Joe the Douchebag was lying through his teeth and he got busted, why in the world you would choose to defend him is beyond reason.

I have clearly addressed this. I'll state it more simply: yes, it turned out he was lying. Yes, he is an attention whore. However, his pillaging commenced before this. You just got lucky ... this time.

this little game of using a false time disqualifier to continue arguing your point is getting old. the entire 24 hour nonsense you are spewing is as bad as the garbage that comes out of Joes mouth. now that i think about it, wouldnt shock me if you were Sam Wurlitzbachburgerism.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: jbourne77

What took place in the first few days after Joe's "initial exposure" is an embarrassment to the human race, no matter who does it. I don't care what the political affiliation is.

I'd like to hear what you're referring to specifically. If the worst you can come up with is that MSNBC reported his real first name and the fact that he wasn't making anywhere near 250K, didn't have a license, etc., then it's pretty clear to the vast majority of people this is nowhere near as bad as your portrayal of "embarrassment to the human race".

Why was Joe even being investigated to this extent at this point? What I'm referring to is that we had government officials in Ohio investigating the man, and the media/public trying to get their hands on every facet of his personal life that they could. A simple question never warranted such a response. But people were so infuriated over the exchange between him and Obama (more specifically, infuriated that people took notice) that they couldn't see straight.

All I have to say at this point is that I don't ever want to hear about the "swift boating" of John Kerry again. At least he was running for President.

Joe the Douchebag was lying through his teeth and he got busted, why in the world you would choose to defend him is beyond reason.

I have clearly addressed this. I'll state it more simply: yes, it turned out he was lying. Yes, he is an attention whore. However, his pillaging commenced before this. You just got lucky ... this time.

this little game of using a false time disqualifier to continue arguing your point is getting old. the entire 24 hour nonsense you are spewing is as bad as the garbage that comes out of Joes mouth. now that i think about it, wouldnt shock me if you were Sam Wurlitzbachburgerism.

Joe never claimed he made over $250,000. He claimed he wanted to buy a plumbing business that would make over $250,000.

 

[Hugh H]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: jbourne77

What took place in the first few days after Joe's "initial exposure" is an embarrassment to the human race, no matter who does it. I don't care what the political affiliation is.

I'd like to hear what you're referring to specifically. If the worst you can come up with is that MSNBC reported his real first name and the fact that he wasn't making anywhere near 250K, didn't have a license, etc., then it's pretty clear to the vast majority of people this is nowhere near as bad as your portrayal of "embarrassment to the human race".

Why was Joe even being investigated to this extent at this point? What I'm referring to is that we had government officials in Ohio investigating the man, and the media/public trying to get their hands on every facet of his personal life that they could. A simple question never warranted such a response. But people were so infuriated over the exchange between him and Obama (more specifically, infuriated that people took notice) that they couldn't see straight.

All I have to say at this point is that I don't ever want to hear about the "swift boating" of John Kerry again. At least he was running for President.

Joe the Douchebag was lying through his teeth and he got busted, why in the world you would choose to defend him is beyond reason.

I have clearly addressed this. I'll state it more simply: yes, it turned out he was lying. Yes, he is an attention whore. However, his pillaging commenced before this. You just got lucky ... this time.

this little game of using a false time disqualifier to continue arguing your point is getting old. the entire 24 hour nonsense you are spewing is as bad as the garbage that comes out of Joes mouth. now that i think about it, wouldnt shock me if you were Sam Wurlitzbachburgerism.

Joe never claimed he made over $250,000. He claimed he wanted to buy a plumbing business that would make over $250,000.

If you see the Youtube video of him and Obama, he started by telling Obama "your tax plan is going to hurt me isn't it?", implying that he already owned a business that made more than 250k in profits. He was dishonest from the get-go.

 

[Red Dawn]

I wonder how much Joe has banked since his encounter with Obama? Didn't someone donate money to pay off his back taxes?

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Hugh H

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: jbourne77

What took place in the first few days after Joe's "initial exposure" is an embarrassment to the human race, no matter who does it. I don't care what the political affiliation is.

I'd like to hear what you're referring to specifically. If the worst you can come up with is that MSNBC reported his real first name and the fact that he wasn't making anywhere near 250K, didn't have a license, etc., then it's pretty clear to the vast majority of people this is nowhere near as bad as your portrayal of "embarrassment to the human race".

Why was Joe even being investigated to this extent at this point? What I'm referring to is that we had government officials in Ohio investigating the man, and the media/public trying to get their hands on every facet of his personal life that they could. A simple question never warranted such a response. But people were so infuriated over the exchange between him and Obama (more specifically, infuriated that people took notice) that they couldn't see straight.

All I have to say at this point is that I don't ever want to hear about the "swift boating" of John Kerry again. At least he was running for President.

Joe the Douchebag was lying through his teeth and he got busted, why in the world you would choose to defend him is beyond reason.

I have clearly addressed this. I'll state it more simply: yes, it turned out he was lying. Yes, he is an attention whore. However, his pillaging commenced before this. You just got lucky ... this time.

this little game of using a false time disqualifier to continue arguing your point is getting old. the entire 24 hour nonsense you are spewing is as bad as the garbage that comes out of Joes mouth. now that i think about it, wouldnt shock me if you were Sam Wurlitzbachburgerism.

Joe never claimed he made over $250,000. He claimed he wanted to buy a plumbing business that would make over $250,000.

If you see the Youtube video of him and Obama, he started by telling Obama "your tax plan is going to hurt me isn't it?", implying that he already owned a business that made more than 250k in profits. He was dishonest from the get-go.

***Sigh*** : http://www.tampabay.com/news/p...tive/article858299.ece

Obama: What's your name?

Joe: My name's Joe Wurzelbacher.

Obama: Good to see you, Joe.

Joe: I'm getting ready to buy a company that makes about $250,000 ? $270-$280,000 a year.

Obama: All right.

Joe: Your new tax plan's gonna tax me more, isn't it?

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: jbourne77


But even if McCain seized the opportunity before the story broke on its own - which is not true - so what? That still doesn't make the man fair game. Instead of disputing the message, people went after the man, and they did it without haste or relent. In the wee hours after the awkward situation started getting exposure (and before McCain seized on it), it was out that Joe's first name was actually Sam and he didn't have a plumbing license. When supporters couldn't neutralize (read: erase) what transpired, they went after the man instead.

No matter how you try to slice, dice, or spin it, it stinks.

I think you have the time line wrong. Joe the Plumber was, and would have remained, an unknown before John McCain seized the opportunity believing he could get some traction against Obama.

Bring up Joe the Plumber on every stump speech and you expect the media not to be curious? Every aspect of any national campaign gets looked at by the media and if it is sensational (right or wrong) it will get lots of exposure.

If you want to blame any trigger for Joe's troubles, point your finger at John McCain or his campaign.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: jbourne77

What took place in the first few days after Joe's "initial exposure" is an embarrassment to the human race, no matter who does it. I don't care what the political affiliation is.

I'd like to hear what you're referring to specifically. If the worst you can come up with is that MSNBC reported his real first name and the fact that he wasn't making anywhere near 250K, didn't have a license, etc., then it's pretty clear to the vast majority of people this is nowhere near as bad as your portrayal of "embarrassment to the human race".

Why was Joe even being investigated to this extent at this point? What I'm referring to is that we had government officials in Ohio investigating the man, and the media/public trying to get their hands on every facet of his personal life that they could. A simple question never warranted such a response. But people were so infuriated over the exchange between him and Obama (more specifically, infuriated that people took notice) that they couldn't see straight.

All I have to say at this point is that I don't ever want to hear about the "swift boating" of John Kerry again. At least he was running for President.

Joe the Douchebag was lying through his teeth and he got busted, why in the world you would choose to defend him is beyond reason.

I have clearly addressed this. I'll state it more simply: yes, it turned out he was lying. Yes, he is an attention whore. However, his pillaging commenced before this. You just got lucky ... this time.

this little game of using a false time disqualifier to continue arguing your point is getting old. the entire 24 hour nonsense you are spewing is as bad as the garbage that comes out of Joes mouth. now that i think about it, wouldnt shock me if you were Sam Wurlitzbachburgerism.

Explain to me what it's "false"? You're the one using post-assault events to defend the assault. If anything is getting old, it's your inability to conceptualize a basic time line of events.

Corbett beat me on the earnings claim.

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: jbourne77

What took place in the first few days after Joe's "initial exposure" is an embarrassment to the human race, no matter who does it. I don't care what the political affiliation is.

I'd like to hear what you're referring to specifically. If the worst you can come up with is that MSNBC reported his real first name and the fact that he wasn't making anywhere near 250K, didn't have a license, etc., then it's pretty clear to the vast majority of people this is nowhere near as bad as your portrayal of "embarrassment to the human race".

Why was Joe even being investigated to this extent at this point? What I'm referring to is that we had government officials in Ohio investigating the man, and the media/public trying to get their hands on every facet of his personal life that they could. A simple question never warranted such a response. But people were so infuriated over the exchange between him and Obama (more specifically, infuriated that people took notice) that they couldn't see straight.

All I have to say at this point is that I don't ever want to hear about the "swift boating" of John Kerry again. At least he was running for President.

Joe the Douchebag was lying through his teeth and he got busted, why in the world you would choose to defend him is beyond reason.

I have clearly addressed this. I'll state it more simply: yes, it turned out he was lying. Yes, he is an attention whore. However, his pillaging commenced before this. You just got lucky ... this time.

this little game of using a false time disqualifier to continue arguing your point is getting old. the entire 24 hour nonsense you are spewing is as bad as the garbage that comes out of Joes mouth. now that i think about it, wouldnt shock me if you were Sam Wurlitzbachburgerism.

Explain to me what it's "false"? You're the one using post-assault events to defend the assault. If anything is getting old, it's your inability to conceptualize a basic time line of events.

Corbett beat me on the earnings claim.

as stated above - Joe said "I'm getting ready to buy a company that $250k to $280k, your new plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" Joe started this bullshit from the first moment yet you continue to defend him and state those who uncovered the truth about him are somehow to blame.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: alien42
as stated above - Joe said "I'm getting ready to buy a company that $250k to $280k, your new plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" Joe started this bullshit from the first moment yet you continue to defend him and state those who uncovered the truth about him are somehow to blame.

WTF? Are you having a hard time with your reading comprehension? Joe the Plumber was stating he was planning on buying a plumbing business. He never suggested he already made $250,000.

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: alien42
as stated above - Joe said "I'm getting ready to buy a company that $250k to $280k, your new plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" Joe started this bullshit from the first moment yet you continue to defend him and state those who uncovered the truth about him are somehow to blame.

WTF? Are you having a hard time with your reading comprehension? Joe the Plumber was stating he was planning on buying a plumbing business. He never suggested he already made $250,000.

that is the point, yet somehow you still don't get it. Joe was spewing bullshit from the moment he opened his mouth.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: alien42
as stated above - Joe said "I'm getting ready to buy a company that $250k to $280k, your new plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" Joe started this bullshit from the first moment yet you continue to defend him and state those who uncovered the truth about him are somehow to blame.

WTF? Are you having a hard time with your reading comprehension? Joe the Plumber was stating he was planning on buying a plumbing business. He never suggested he already made $250,000.

that is the point, yet somehow you still don't get it. Joe was spewing bullshit from the moment he opened his mouth.

So then you have proof he wasn't planning on buying a plumbing business?

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: alien42
as stated above - Joe said "I'm getting ready to buy a company that $250k to $280k, your new plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" Joe started this bullshit from the first moment yet you continue to defend him and state those who uncovered the truth about him are somehow to blame.

WTF? Are you having a hard time with your reading comprehension? Joe the Plumber was stating he was planning on buying a plumbing business. He never suggested he already made $250,000.

that is the point, yet somehow you still don't get it. Joe was spewing bullshit from the moment he opened his mouth.

So then you have proof he wasn't planning on buying a plumbing business?

the facts remain unchanged, Joe the Douchebag will pay fewer taxes under Obama's proposed tax plan. if Joe had actually been a wealthy business owner and not a lying sack of shit, this thread wouldn't exist. if Joe is lucky he will make enough money from this stunt to actually buy a business, but i doubt he is smart enough to run it.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: alien42
as stated above - Joe said "I'm getting ready to buy a company that $250k to $280k, your new plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" Joe started this bullshit from the first moment yet you continue to defend him and state those who uncovered the truth about him are somehow to blame.

WTF? Are you having a hard time with your reading comprehension? Joe the Plumber was stating he was planning on buying a plumbing business. He never suggested he already made $250,000.

that is the point, yet somehow you still don't get it. Joe was spewing bullshit from the moment he opened his mouth.

Wow... you're really grasping, aren't you?

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: alien42
as stated above - Joe said "I'm getting ready to buy a company that $250k to $280k, your new plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" Joe started this bullshit from the first moment yet you continue to defend him and state those who uncovered the truth about him are somehow to blame.

WTF? Are you having a hard time with your reading comprehension? Joe the Plumber was stating he was planning on buying a plumbing business. He never suggested he already made $250,000.

that is the point, yet somehow you still don't get it. Joe was spewing bullshit from the moment he opened his mouth.

Wow... you're really grasping, aren't you?

nope

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: alien42
as stated above - Joe said "I'm getting ready to buy a company that $250k to $280k, your new plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" Joe started this bullshit from the first moment yet you continue to defend him and state those who uncovered the truth about him are somehow to blame.

WTF? Are you having a hard time with your reading comprehension? Joe the Plumber was stating he was planning on buying a plumbing business. He never suggested he already made $250,000.

that is the point, yet somehow you still don't get it. Joe was spewing bullshit from the moment he opened his mouth.

So then you have proof he wasn't planning on buying a plumbing business?

the facts remain unchanged, Joe the Douchebag will pay fewer taxes under Obama's proposed tax plan. if Joe had actually been a wealthy business owner and not a lying sack of shit, this thread wouldn't exist. if Joe is lucky he will make enough money from this stunt to actually buy a business, but i doubt he is smart enough to run it.

Nice dodge. How exactly is Joe a "lying sack of shit?"

 

[First]

^ Let's put it this way; you're dumb as hell if you honestly believe at this point that Joe the Plumber was seriously planning and/or in the midst of purchasing a plumbing business that would gross him 250K+.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Nice dodge. How exactly is Joe a "lying sack of shit?"

Shep Smith grills Joe the Plumber on Israel

Five minutes with Joe The Plumber had Shepard Smith so frustrated that the Fox anchor felt compelled to issue a disclaimer, immediately following the segment, pushing back on any notion that Obama would mean the "death of Israel," saying: "I just want to make this 100 percent perfectly clear -- Barack Obama has said repeatedly and demonstrated repeatedly that Israel will always be a friend of the United States, no matter what happens once he becomes President of the United States. His words."

Smith later added, "The rest of it -- man...some things -- it just gets frightening sometimes. We'll be right back." I haven't seen Shep this broken up about the state of the world since Katrina.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: Evan
^ Let's put it this way; you're dumb as hell if you honestly believe at this point that Joe the Plumber was seriously planning and/or in the midst of purchasing a plumbing business that would gross him 250K+.

And you're dumb as hell for continuing to bring that up. The point all along was that he was maimed before you had any idea whether or not he was actually in a position to buy such a business. It could be a hypothetical question for all I care: we should be allowed to ask questions - hypothetical or otherwise - without fear of such wicked reprisal, which again, has been the point all along.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Evan
^ Let's put it this way; you're dumb as hell if you honestly believe at this point that Joe the Plumber was seriously planning and/or in the midst of purchasing a plumbing business that would gross him 250K+.

And you're dumb as hell for continuing to bring that up. The point all along was that he was maimed before you had any idea whether or not he was actually in a position to buy such a business. It could be a hypothetical question for all I care: we should be allowed to ask questions - hypothetical or otherwise - without fear of such wicked reprisal, which again, has been the point all along.

You're confused, I already debunked this at the top of the page.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Evan
^ Let's put it this way; you're dumb as hell if you honestly believe at this point that Joe the Plumber was seriously planning and/or in the midst of purchasing a plumbing business that would gross him 250K+.

Can I borrow your crystal ball?

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: Corbett

Nice dodge. How exactly is Joe a "lying sack of shit?"

Shep Smith grills Joe the Plumber on Israel

Five minutes with Joe The Plumber had Shepard Smith so frustrated that the Fox anchor felt compelled to issue a disclaimer, immediately following the segment, pushing back on any notion that Obama would mean the "death of Israel," saying: "I just want to make this 100 percent perfectly clear -- Barack Obama has said repeatedly and demonstrated repeatedly that Israel will always be a friend of the United States, no matter what happens once he becomes President of the United States. His words."

Smith later added, "The rest of it -- man...some things -- it just gets frightening sometimes. We'll be right back." I haven't seen Shep this broken up about the state of the world since Katrina.

WTH does this have to do with anything?

 

[First]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Evan
^ Let's put it this way; you're dumb as hell if you honestly believe at this point that Joe the Plumber was seriously planning and/or in the midst of purchasing a plumbing business that would gross him 250K+.

Can I borrow your crystal ball?

rofl.