Absolute Immunity? Nope!

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fskimospy

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Depends. Official acts can be used to abuse power, sure. But these are functions of the Presidency as spelled out by the Constitution.

But ordering an extrajudicial killing of an American citizen does not fall under any Constitutional described Presidential duty.

The problem is will the eventual appeal to the SCOTUS about said act be ruled as an official Presidential duty? We know how they will rule for him.
The duty is that he is the commander in chief of the armed forces and giving orders to the military is a core presidential function.

Similarly, asking your vice president to stage a coup would not be a constitutionally described presidential duty but was explicitly called out as something he was immune for.

This ruling is not complicated. The president can kill anyone he wants.
 

APU_Fusion

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So, what you are saying is that you did not read the ruling and don't know that the president cannot remove state election officials.
No, you are naive and living in denial. You clearly did not read the opinion. The President can order the killing of those state officials by the military as commander and chief as an “official act” and is immune. Can’t even ask what their intent was.

Trump was already calling for military tribunals for Liz Cheney if he commander and chief. Orders the military to execute her after charge of treason. Official act. Immune. No asking intent
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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The duty is that he is the commander in chief of the armed forces and giving orders to the military is a core presidential function.
Minor point, the US military is an expeditionary force, it's not to be used on American soil. That said, we're in a post-reality world so who gives a shit.
 
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Dave_5k

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Minor point, the US military is an expeditionary force, it's not to be used on American soil. That said, we're in a post-reality world so who gives a shit.
The Posse Comitatus Act only applies to (D) presidents, not (R) presidents - likely Roberts court ruling if such use was ever challenged.

But as the president can't break the law when acting in official capacity as president, according to Trump, therefore any laws that purport to restrict the legal actions of the president are by definition now unconstitutional laws.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Not quite, the oath is defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.

While technically true, afaik there's been no officially stated domestic enemy that has required the use of the US military, in US history. Civil war doesn't even really count since it was technically a different country at the time they were deployed.
 

sdifox

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While technically true, afaik there's been no officially stated domestic enemy that has required the use of the US military, in US history. Civil war doesn't even really count since it was technically a different country at the time they were deployed.
Yeah but it has been provisioned. Anyone declared enemy of the constitution by the defender of constitution, the US President, is fair game. This is how retarded this decision was.
 

APU_Fusion

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While technically true, afaik there's been no officially stated domestic enemy that has required the use of the US military, in US history. Civil war doesn't even really count since it was technically a different country at the time they were deployed.
Uh, I thought the US did not recognize the Confederate States of America as separate country but internal states in rebellion. They were considered domestic enemy I thought?
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Uh, I thought the US did not recognize the Confederate States of America as separate country but internal states in rebellion. They were considered domestic enemy I thought?
Oh maybe that was the case, I'm not sure on the legalese of how things when down then. I just assumed it was regarded like 'oh so you want to be an enemy country? Okay.'
 

NWRMidnight

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You know, What I see happening is Trump using this ruling to get a lot of his criminal charges dropped (he hush money case sentencing has been pushed off till September now, as the judge reviews the ruling, and Trump trying to get the conviction dropped claiming the damning evidence was covered under immunity).. once Trump is in the clear with most charges dropped, and he loses the Presidency, the Scotus will reverse their ruling. If he wins the Presidency, the ruling will stay intact and the US will be from then on a Dictatorship. The sad part is those cheering for Trump don't realize they will be in the same sinking ship the rest of us are in that won't vote for him if he is elected.
 
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