according to Jackie Chan, the most corrupt country in the world is...

Phokus

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Probably seems that way because corruption + being the most powerful country in the world maginfies it.

There are probably some african countries that out-corrupt us.

Although, i think America maybe more corrupt than most people give us credit for, we're 'sneaky corrupt' whereas other countries are more corrupt out in the open.
 

Nintendesert

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Probably seems that way because corruption + being the most powerful country in the world maginfies it.

There are probably some african countries that out-corrupt us.

Although, i think America maybe more corrupt than most people give us credit for, we're 'sneaky corrupt' whereas other countries are more corrupt out in the open.



He doesn't even need to leave his home country to find a more corrupt country.
 

Triumph

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I don't think his definition of corruption is the same as ours. Read his comments, he doesn't seem to like democracy very much. Corruption to me means greasing the skids to get things moving. Sure there's lots of that in this country, but in many other countries there is A LOT more just as a matter of course. Something as simple as getting a table in a restaurant, it is implied that you pay the seating host. Here we have a much more "wait your turn," attitude. Other countries, that simply isn't the mindset. You want something done, you gotta pay for it.
 

Lonyo

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He has a point.
China admits it's corrupt. America? Pretends like it's not completely screwed up.

Pretty sure that gives China a leg up when it comes to criticising.

He does seem to have gone off on one though with other things, but you can't pretend like America is whiter than white.
 

techs

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According to me Jackie Chan is one of the three stupidest actors on the planet along with Gerard Depardieu and Gary Busey.
 

mmntech

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Chan has been a big flag waver for the PRC in recent years. According to Transparency International, North Korea and Somalia tied as most corrupt countries. US isn't even middle of the road. That's not so say it doesn't have a problem. But not anywhere near as bad as China, or most of Asia for that matter.

Chan, as a washed up action star, really should keep his mouth shut on things he knows nothing about. You'd think his beloved PRC would have taught him that.
http://www.transparency.org/cpi2011/results

It's also worth noting that corruption is difficult to measure given the inherent nature of it.
 

randomrogue

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America is very corrupt. Most? I have no idea how one would even quantify that. I have found that most countries have corruption but it's all different.
 

GrumpyMan

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America is not the most corrupt, so to stop him from saying these terrible things we will need to put a hit out on him and sell his family into slavery. Then we'll blow up any businesses that he may have. After that we will eat any pets that he may have in front of him before we oft him. Corrupt, I'm offended.....oh I forgot we will need burn all his movies in front of him too.....
 

Baked

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Speaking of corruption, I'm surprised nobody brought up Haiti. Mega earthquake took out 200K people 3 years ago. Billions poured in to rebuild. 3 years later, nothing's done, 700K people still live in refugee type camps. Nothing has changed before or after the mega earthquake. Where did all the relief money go?
 

lxskllr

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I think that Transparency International graphic is pretty close for general placement. It could use some tweaking, but it's in the ballpark.
 

randomrogue

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I think the problem that people are going to have here is identifying corruption since most of you have probably never seen it. Corruption is seen really when there are big dollars involved. The Haiti example is a great one. I think NPR had a show on how all the money was wasted. Someone linked an article about Lance Armstrong taking 45% of his charities money for administration costs. That's corruption.

If you go to Zimbabwe you see the corruption immediately since the cops all have to take bribes to pay their families (they get no salary). However in the states the corruption is at the higher ends of the spectrum. If you're moving large amounts of assets you better believe there is an incredible amount of corruption. If you're conducting large business deals for private companies the corruption is incredible. Otherwise the next guy will make the money and you'll be out of business.
 

jagec

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Apr 30, 2004
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I think the problem that people are going to have here is identifying corruption since most of you have probably never seen it. Corruption is seen really when there are big dollars involved. The Haiti example is a great one. I think NPR had a show on how all the money was wasted. Someone linked an article about Lance Armstrong taking 45% of his charities money for administration costs. That's corruption.

If you go to Zimbabwe you see the corruption immediately since the cops all have to take bribes to pay their families (they get no salary). However in the states the corruption is at the higher ends of the spectrum. If you're moving large amounts of assets you better believe there is an incredible amount of corruption. If you're conducting large business deals for private companies the corruption is incredible. Otherwise the next guy will make the money and you'll be out of business.

This is true, and if we charted "Total corruption" instead of "per capita corruption" the US would be pretty far up the list due to our massive economy.

But China would almost certainly still have us beat. Their political system runs on patronage to a degree that our congresscritters could only dream of.
 
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