according to Jackie Chan, the most corrupt country in the world is...

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randomrogue

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But China would almost certainly still have us beat. Their political system runs on patronage to a degree that our congresscritters could only dream of.

I'm not sure how to quantify that either. My congressional representative years ago ran as a school teacher. So she went from a $40,000 salary to $150,000 or so. Yet it didn't take her long to become a multi millionaire and to funnel government contracts to her brother.

Just look at Congress salaries. This is corruption.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salaries_of_members_of_the_United_States_Congress
 

CPA

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“Chinese people need to be controlled, otherwise they will do whatever they want.”

Just lost all the respect I had for Jackie.
 

zerocool84

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Our corruption here is legal so that probably doesn't count officially. Unions, lobbyists, corporations, banks, etc owning the politicians are an everyday occurrence.
 

CPA

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Our corruption here is legal so that probably doesn't count officially. Unions, lobbyists, corporations, banks, etc owning the politicians are an everyday occurrence.

I agree with this, but will also add that the politicians own each of those groups to an extent. It goes both ways.
 
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India.

Just yesterday, auditors were at my house to reassess our property tax. They said with the new rates coming up, this year we will have to pay Rs. 90,000 (~$1650) per year in property taxes. They asked for a $250 bribe to fix our rate that so we would only have to pay around $250 annually for the next few years until they reassess. My Mom agreed. For someone with an annual income of just over $12,000 (which puts you in middle-class to the upper-middle-class range) and struggling with cancer (thankfully covered in my employer's insurance and a retirement plan she had invested in), $1650 in just property taxes is fucked up.

The last time the house was assessed was in 2003. My Dad had bribed them to make a similar deal - pay about $100 annually instead of the original $300 or so. Now it's gone up from the $300 to $1650.

That's what the government gets for setting fuck-all tax rates, embezzling all the money and doing nothing for the community. My neighborhood looks like a dozen IEDs blow up in it every night. Dug up everywhere, potholes the size of your head, dirt and trash all over. Believe it or not, most of the homes are worth $250,000 - $500,000. Even some large houses approaching a million. I have seen what neighborhoods with $500,000 homes look like in a First World Country. Even the ghettos there look like paradise compared to this shit.

Fuck this country and its politicians who are the masters of embezzling billions of dollars in taxpayer money while people suffer. This is why nobody cares about cheating the cheaters in government.
 

Sonikku

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Sounds like a wise man if you ask me. He comes from a country where the 99%ers don't get to push the Job Creators around. Politicians in America in contrast are just the opposite. If a Job Creator wants to create more jobs and cut costs by dumping his hazardous waste into peoples backyards instead of paying more to treat it properly he can't. Businesses in America are all bogged down by cumbersome "building codes" irritating "environment standards" and other government regulations that stifle profit and opportunity.

But look at China. Now this is a capitalist paradise. Tons of jobs. Little regulation, low business costs. Endless opportunity for business expansion. The people even get comfy large sized hammocks on the sides of their employer's builds like at Foxconn that they can just jump into and relax in when they feel like taking a load off.
 

Red Squirrel

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I'd say it's the most corrupt 1st world country, but if you look at 3rd world countries like China and lot of middle east countries like Iraq, Afghanistan etc those are probably more corrupt.
 

HamburgerBoy

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I'd say it's the most corrupt 1st world country, but if you look at 3rd world countries like China and lot of middle east countries like Iraq, Afghanistan etc those are probably more corrupt.

I was going to mention Italy, but they're probably not first-world actually.
 

nehalem256

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Complaining about members of congress making $175,000/yr has nothing to do with complaining about corruption and everything to do with hating congress.

Now lets think about what the best way to lead to congressional corruption is?

EDIT: http://www.scpr.org/blogs/economy/2012/04/09/5479/california-colleges-top-professor-pay-survey/

It doesn't exactly seem like the receive unreasonable compensation to me.
 

clamum

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Wow. I definitely lost some respect for the guy. C'mon, Jackie, you're really not that fucking stupid, are you? I know America isn't perfect and absolutely there's corruption here, but "the worst"? Ridiculous. Suck that PRC dick a little harder, buddy.
 

Phoenix86

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He's a complete hypocrite anyways, he hates the recent (last decade or so) US made films he has done but sure isn't stopping due to the $. I lost respect for him a long time ago, although I do enjoy his films... Before he started making US films I used to go watch his old stuff in the dollar theaters.
 

Itchrelief

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India.

Just yesterday, auditors were at my house to reassess our property tax. They said with the new rates coming up, this year we will have to pay Rs. 90,000 (~$1650) per year in property taxes. They asked for a $250 bribe to fix our rate that so we would only have to pay around $250 annually for the next few years until they reassess. My Mom agreed. For someone with an annual income of just over $12,000 (which puts you in middle-class to the upper-middle-class range) and struggling with cancer (thankfully covered in my employer's insurance and a retirement plan she had invested in), $1650 in just property taxes is fucked up.

The last time the house was assessed was in 2003. My Dad had bribed them to make a similar deal - pay about $100 annually instead of the original $300 or so. Now it's gone up from the $300 to $1650.

That's what the government gets for setting fuck-all tax rates, embezzling all the money and doing nothing for the community. My neighborhood looks like a dozen IEDs blow up in it every night. Dug up everywhere, potholes the size of your head, dirt and trash all over. Believe it or not, most of the homes are worth $250,000 - $500,000. Even some large houses approaching a million. I have seen what neighborhoods with $500,000 homes look like in a First World Country. Even the ghettos there look like paradise compared to this shit.

Fuck this country and its politicians who are the masters of embezzling billions of dollars in taxpayer money while people suffer. This is why nobody cares about cheating the cheaters in government.

Yeah, that's corrupt, but at the same time, if you're bribing the guy so that you only end up paying $300 tax a year to the government (the bribe doesn't count because the government doesn't see any of it) on a $250,000 house, you can't complain about the roads being shit, because it isn't the value of the house that pays for the roads but the actual tax that gets paid...

edit: Ya pays 1/10 the taxes, ya gets 1/10 the services. Well, ok maybe less than 1/10, but IMO it's a vicious cycle where tax evasion gets seen as OK because the services provided suck, so there's blame to go all around.
 
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