a one time fee <$100 seems trivial for the overall benefit it would have. you will never have the same effectiveness of this through penalties and enforcement alone. As history shows this type of deterrents will create more problems than it solves.
Originally posted by: tbike06
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
This is why the penalty for drunk driving needs to be cranked up.
That drunk has taken away more then he can ever pay for.
Filling the jails and courts with offenders isn't the answer. Stopping them from being able to offend would be the real thing to do. Just like we made airbags a requirement for all new cars....we should outfit cars with a system that will only allow the car to start after a successful Breathalyzer test. We have the technology today to do this and if it was mandated on a large scale it could be done cheaply. It would also be fairly easy to mandate that older cars get retrofitted with this system in order to renew registration. You can even be proactive and use this system to fine individuals who have tried to start a car drunk x amount of times. Also impose steep fines if you are pulled over and your Breathalyzer system is found to have been disabled.
This would be the ultimate deterrent to DWI. Make it nearly impossible to drive impaired to begin with. Of course someone sober could still start a car and start driving and get sloshed while driving but most cases of drunk driving aren't where the person is getting drunk while actually driving.
and what is going to stop someone drunk from having a sober person start their car for them?
Not to mention everyone who isnt retarded enough to drive drunk having to pay for those pieces of crap in our cars?
yup
Originally posted by: tbike06
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: alien42
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
This is why the penalty for drunk driving needs to be cranked up.
That drunk has taken away more then he can ever pay for.
Filling the jails and courts with offenders isn't the answer. Stopping them from being able to offend would be the real thing to do. Just like we made airbags a requirement for all new cars....we should outfit cars with a system that will only allow the car to start after a successful Breathalyzer test. We have the technology today to do this and if it was mandated on a large scale it could be done cheaply. It would also be fairly easy to mandate that older cars get retrofitted with this system in order to renew registration. You can even be proactive and use this system to fine individuals who have tried to start a car drunk x amount of times. Also impose steep fines if you are pulled over and your Breathalyzer system is found to have been disabled.
This would be the ultimate deterrent to DWI. Make it nearly impossible to drive impaired to begin with. Of course someone sober could still start a car and start driving and get sloshed while driving but most cases of drunk driving aren't where the person is getting drunk while actually driving.
and what is going to stop someone drunk from having a sober person start their car for them?
Not to mention everyone who isnt retarded enough to drive drunk having to pay for those pieces of crap in our cars?
yup
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
they already have it in some states for repeat dui offenders.
From what I know, the third pedestrian was actually the person he was visiting at Penn State, another good friend of his from high school.Originally posted by: moshquerade
also, the article mentions 3 pedestrians. one of them Richard, one Aaron Stidd who is in the hospital, and no mention of who the third one was who it seems escaped unscathed.
Matthew Shlegel, an eyewitness, told police that Torsell's car was "flying" through the intersection, while Torsell had a green light. Shlegel told police he saw three pedestrians walking fast through the intersection "huddled over." He told police it was raining when he observed Torsell's car strike two of the three pedestrians, according to the criminal complaint.
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Rick was killed while visiting another friend from our group who goes to PSU. More of us were invited to be there, but we lived farther away and none of us were up to driving that far. In the past day I've wondered about a thousand times if my being there could have prevented something. I just don't know.
What that article doen't tell you is that the friend he was visiting was standing 2 feet away from the accident as it happened, and one second later it would have been him killed. At the moment he is completely traumatized, a few of us have grouped up here at my apartment in Virginia to make our way back today to talk to him. He was the one who called me yesterday morning to tell me about Rick, and the only thing I could think the whole time was "This is some sick, twisted, not-funny-at-all joke".
Originally posted by: Tyrant987
From what I know, the third pedestrian was actually the person he was visiting at Penn State, another good friend of his from high school.Originally posted by: moshquerade
also, the article mentions 3 pedestrians. one of them Richard, one Aaron Stidd who is in the hospital, and no mention of who the third one was who it seems escaped unscathed.
Matthew Shlegel, an eyewitness, told police that Torsell's car was "flying" through the intersection, while Torsell had a green light. Shlegel told police he saw three pedestrians walking fast through the intersection "huddled over." He told police it was raining when he observed Torsell's car strike two of the three pedestrians, according to the criminal complaint.
TheLonelyPhoenix mentioned him in his post:
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Rick was killed while visiting another friend from our group who goes to PSU. More of us were invited to be there, but we lived farther away and none of us were up to driving that far. In the past day I've wondered about a thousand times if my being there could have prevented something. I just don't know.
What that article doen't tell you is that the friend he was visiting was standing 2 feet away from the accident as it happened, and one second later it would have been him killed. At the moment he is completely traumatized, a few of us have grouped up here at my apartment in Virginia to make our way back today to talk to him. He was the one who called me yesterday morning to tell me about Rick, and the only thing I could think the whole time was "This is some sick, twisted, not-funny-at-all joke".
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
That's horrible. As many other users posted, I didnt know Rick off the forums, but his name is EASILY recognizable. He always had some really interesting, insightful, well thought out posts. It's a shame this tragedy happened to him, especially with him so young. I'll say a prayer for him/his parents.
RIP acemcmac You will be missed.
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: mugs
I have a degree in computer science with a focus in Business Information Systems. I had to take over 40 credits in IS-related classes.
Same. CS major + Econ minor.
Police limited how many details they released Saturday. It was not immediately clear whether Torsell or the pedestrians had the right of way.
Originally posted by: eits
Police limited how many details they released Saturday. It was not immediately clear whether Torsell or the pedestrians had the right of way.
i thought pedestrians always had the right of way...
Originally posted by: bluestrobe
Originally posted by: eits
Police limited how many details they released Saturday. It was not immediately clear whether Torsell or the pedestrians had the right of way.
i thought pedestrians always had the right of way...
Depends on the location and roadway. Jaywalkers don't have the right of way in a lot of places.
Originally posted by: Tyrant987
From what I know, the third pedestrian was actually the person he was visiting at Penn State, another good friend of his from high school.Originally posted by: moshquerade
also, the article mentions 3 pedestrians. one of them Richard, one Aaron Stidd who is in the hospital, and no mention of who the third one was who it seems escaped unscathed.
Matthew Shlegel, an eyewitness, told police that Torsell's car was "flying" through the intersection, while Torsell had a green light. Shlegel told police he saw three pedestrians walking fast through the intersection "huddled over." He told police it was raining when he observed Torsell's car strike two of the three pedestrians, according to the criminal complaint.
TheLonelyPhoenix mentioned him in his post:
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Rick was killed while visiting another friend from our group who goes to PSU. More of us were invited to be there, but we lived farther away and none of us were up to driving that far. In the past day I've wondered about a thousand times if my being there could have prevented something. I just don't know.
What that article doen't tell you is that the friend he was visiting was standing 2 feet away from the accident as it happened, and one second later it would have been him killed. At the moment he is completely traumatized, a few of us have grouped up here at my apartment in Virginia to make our way back today to talk to him. He was the one who called me yesterday morning to tell me about Rick, and the only thing I could think the whole time was "This is some sick, twisted, not-funny-at-all joke".