acemcmac

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Hyperlite
I think his obviously debilitated state should influence the jury.

And what the hell, one of the victims isn't allowed to attend the trial of the one who injured him? What next, if a woman is raped, will she not be allowed to take the stand because her presence in court could negatively influence the jury?

Didn't some judge actually try to keep a rape victim out of the courtroom...

Edit:
Oh, in a rape case, the judge banned use of the word rape. Never mind.

 

[moshquerade]

Just checking for updates and found this quite graphic description of the accident from a friend of Ricks.

It's also amazing how people will defend someone like Torsell, but I'm thinking they'd be singing a different tune had it been their son, friend, brother who was killed.


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A local
Carlisle, PA

Nov 9, 2007

I used to work with Tony's father, Dan, and I have never known a more patient, kind or loving parent to their children. This is a genuinely good family and it is so sad that this happened. No way, no how did Tony set out to deliberately harm anyone. And anyone who has ever been to State College knows about the partying that happens in this town. Every single weekend, DUI's abound. For each person caught, how many get away with it? And for each person who does it, how many Tony's are there who not only get busted, but take others down with them?

He deserves leniency because this was an accident. He should be sentenced for the DUI like a person who hit a tree or building. The fact that he hit people is very sad, but extending prison time because of that will not do anyone any good. His life is essentially over already. Have mercy!!


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A_Friend_of_Rick s
Tulsa, OK


Nov 17, 2007

It's just too bad that Anthony couldn't have just crashed into a tree and died. He would have saved two extra family and friends, pointless pain and suffering. I guess Dan should have thought his son not to drink and drive, don't you think? My friend was Rick Smith, his face was pealed off during the incident, and was smeared down the road about 160 feet to his death.

So, I have no pitty or mercy for Anthony. An eye for an eye, now, that's true justice. Anthony got away with murder on this one. Though he has six years now, to make some new and special friends behind bars in State Lockup. That makes me feel a bit better... Knowing that...


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A parent of four
State College, PA

Jan 7, 2008

I have 2 children that are college age and 2 in high school. Their father and I have talked to them about every dangerous situation we can think of. We have used incidences like this one as teachable moments to discuss with them about the dangers of drinking and driving. I believe we have given them the tools to make good decisions. Am I so naive to think .. they could NOT ever make the same mistake as Mr. Tony Torsell? No. All you self righteous people who are out there judging I hope no one you love ever makes a poor decision. For obviously, they won't have your support.
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[RESmonkey]

I just found this thread.

 

[Jeff7]

I used to work with Tony's father, Dan, and I have never known a more patient, kind or loving parent to their children. This is a genuinely good family and it is so sad that this happened. No way, no how did Tony set out to deliberately harm anyone. And anyone who has ever been to State College knows about the partying that happens in this town. Every single weekend, DUI's abound. For each person caught, how many get away with it? And for each person who does it, how many Tony's are there who not only get busted, but take others down with them?

He deserves leniency because this was an accident. He should be sentenced for the DUI like a person who hit a tree or building. The fact that he hit people is very sad, but extending prison time because of that will not do anyone any good. His life is essentially over already. Have mercy!!

No, he didn't deliberately intend to harm anyone. He was just recklessly irresponsible to the point that it killed on person and effectively stole the life away from another person, and then he refuses to take any responsibility (there's that word again) for his actions.
It's pathetic and shameful.

And the fact that it happens many times without being caught doesn't somehow vindicate Torsell's actions. If that were the case, hell, just let all criminals go - plenty of them get away, so why punish those who are caught? Morons....

No. All you self righteous people who are out there judging I hope no one you love ever makes a poor decision. For obviously, they won't have your support.

I think my parents would disown me on the spot if my preventable irresponsibility had resulted in the death of another person. My mom has told me already that if I did anything serious enough like this that'd land me in jail, that I shouldn't bother wasting my phonecall to call home for help. I think that's a damn bit better than what Torsell's parents are doing: Don't worry sonny, we don't care what you do, we'll always be there to bail you out.:roll:
Pathetic. :disgust:

We're a sort of bunch who doesn't think that family should blindly back up one another without any regard to what has been done. Just because someone happens to share some similar DNA doesn't mean they're perfect.

 

[dartworth]

 

[aesthetics]

I am sad.

 

[esquared]

Keep this on topic. If I have to clean this up again, some of you won't like it.


esquared
Anandtech Senior Moderator

 

[Gothgar]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Just checking for updates and found this quite graphic description of the accident from a friend of Ricks.

It's also amazing how people will defend someone like Torsell, but I'm thinking they'd be singing a different tune had it been their son, friend, brother who was killed.


A_Friend_of_Rick s
Tulsa, OK


Nov 17, 2007

It's just too bad that Anthony couldn't have just crashed into a tree and died. He would have saved two extra family and friends, pointless pain and suffering. I guess Dan should have thought his son not to drink and drive, don't you think? My friend was Rick Smith, his face was pealed off during the incident, and was smeared down the road about 160 feet to his death.

So, I have no pitty or mercy for Anthony. An eye for an eye, now, that's true justice. Anthony got away with murder on this one. Though he has six years now, to make some new and special friends behind bars in State Lockup. That makes me feel a bit better... Knowing that...



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Holy christ that is terrible.

 

[ICRS]

To think a huge number of people in California (probably clsoe to half) are pushing to make vehicular manslaughter are minor crime with a light punishment.

 

[Feldenak]

He's been dead for 8 months...why is this stickied again?

 

[Steve]

Originally posted by: Feldenak
He's been dead for 8 months...why is this stickied again?

You mean 20 months?

I'm guessing it's stickied to advise people that if they clog up this thread with crap again (did you miss it?) then it won't be just posts that will be removed.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Feldenak
He's been dead for 8 months...why is this stickied again?

Out of simple respect and remembrance for a really good guy who died tragically and senselessly young?

So that the latest attempts of his killer's lawyer to get his client's sentence overturned can be seen by all?

Because he was a well loved member of our on-line community?

I dunno, I didn't sticky it. Those are just the first three possibilities that came to mind.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: Gothgar

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Just checking for updates and found this quite graphic description of the accident from a friend of Ricks.

It's also amazing how people will defend someone like Torsell, but I'm thinking they'd be singing a different tune had it been their son, friend, brother who was killed.


A_Friend_of_Rick s
Tulsa, OK


Nov 17, 2007

It's just too bad that Anthony couldn't have just crashed into a tree and died. He would have saved two extra family and friends, pointless pain and suffering. I guess Dan should have thought his son not to drink and drive, don't you think? My friend was Rick Smith, his face was pealed off during the incident, and was smeared down the road about 160 feet to his death.

So, I have no pitty or mercy for Anthony. An eye for an eye, now, that's true justice. Anthony got away with murder on this one. Though he has six years now, to make some new and special friends behind bars in State Lockup. That makes me feel a bit better... Knowing that...



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Holy christ that is terrible.

To be honest, this ^^ is a bit of an exaggeration. Not that it, in any way, decreases the horror involved with such an accident. What a terrible incident on both sides of the ball. Such a shame that things like this happen. On a somewhat side note, I wish I had kept up with whatever ended up being the final word on Applegate in the similar accident on the other side of town.

NM: She got 2k in fines, 20 days house arrest, and a year of license suspension. Hmm, I can't seem to find Drauch's outcome now. This stuff is just awful.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: Gothgar

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Just checking for updates and found this quite graphic description of the accident from a friend of Ricks.

It's also amazing how people will defend someone like Torsell, but I'm thinking they'd be singing a different tune had it been their son, friend, brother who was killed.


A_Friend_of_Rick s
Tulsa, OK


Nov 17, 2007

It's just too bad that Anthony couldn't have just crashed into a tree and died. He would have saved two extra family and friends, pointless pain and suffering. I guess Dan should have thought his son not to drink and drive, don't you think? My friend was Rick Smith, his face was pealed off during the incident, and was smeared down the road about 160 feet to his death.

So, I have no pitty or mercy for Anthony. An eye for an eye, now, that's true justice. Anthony got away with murder on this one. Though he has six years now, to make some new and special friends behind bars in State Lockup. That makes me feel a bit better... Knowing that...



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Holy christ that is terrible.

To be honest, this ^^ is a bit of an exaggeration. Not that it, in any way, decreases the horror involved with such an accident. What a terrible incident on both sides of the ball. Such a shame that things like this happen. On a somewhat side note, I wish I had kept up with whatever ended up being the final word on Applegate in the similar accident on the other side of town.

NM: She got 2k in fines, 20 days house arrest, and a year of license suspension. Hmm, I can't seem to find Drauch's outcome now. This stuff is just awful.

Where I'm living, there was a women that hit and killed a biker when she swerved off the road. She was playing with her cell phone at the time and the sentence was just about the same. License suspension and fines.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: Feldenak
He's been dead for 8 months...why is this stickied again?

I mean its sad and all, but can we move on?

 

[ballmode]

we can never move on if we keep living in the past

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: ballmode
we can never move on if we keep living in the past

I can also understand moving on, but I don't think it's necessarily bad to have a sobering reminder from time to time.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: ballmode
we can never move on if we keep living in the past

If we do not learn from the past, history is doomed to repeat itself.

If a single person goes to drive home after a few drinks and thinks about this thread, then puts their keys away, then I for one say this thread is priceless...

R.I.P. acemcmac

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: ballmode
we can never move on if we keep living in the past

If we do not learn from the past, history is doomed to repeat itself.

If a single person goes to drive home after a few drinks and thinks about this thread, then puts their keys away, then I for one say this thread is priceless...

R.I.P. acemcmac

I completely agree with this response. :thumbsup:

 

[xanis]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: ballmode
we can never move on if we keep living in the past

If we do not learn from the past, history is doomed to repeat itself.

If a single person goes to drive home after a few drinks and thinks about this thread, then puts their keys away, then I for one say this thread is priceless...

R.I.P. acemcmac

QFTMFT. When someone drives drunk they endanger my life, the lives of my friends and family, and the lives of other people. If this thread keeps even one person from driving home drunk, then it's totally worth it to keep it on the front page for all to see.

 

[buck]

Can we just add this to the sticky up top?

 

[Saint Nick]

Hi everyone:

As you all know, we lost acemcmac (Richard Smith) a couple of years ago to a drunk driver. And, personally, I wasn't really affected by the whole ordeal at the time, but I was rather more impressed with how our entire community was affected. Everyone came together to mourn his loss. We lost him at 21 years old. Back then, it didn't really hit me, as I was only 19 at the time.

But, two years does wonders, and now I think about all the possible things that could happen. Think of all the things that you want to do with yourself. Think of all the things that your friends want to do, even other people you've never even met. So many people want to do so many things, and all of it could be abruptly ended in the same manner that we lost acemcmac.

I recently contacted NBC to see if they could do a news story on AnandTech Forums and acemcmac (Richard Smith). I mentioned to them that it was extraordinary that an online forum pulled together to mourn the loss of a member, regardless if they got along with him or not. I personally found it to be heartwarming and amazing that a group that barely knows each other personally, and is typically is flaming each other and arguing, pulled together like they did.

I'll be contacting the other major news channels with this proposition. I personally think that it should be known that even though we are an online forum, mostly geeks and nerds looking for a "cool" place to hang out, that we're all still human and we still all have feelings. Coming together like we did (and are still doing) is one of the most impressive forms of humanity I've seen -- and I want it known.

I'll let you all know in the future if they contact me back with any interest.

Thanks everyone :sun:

 

[ViviTheMage]

I feel like a DBAG, but I never followed that thread....story is sad though.

Also, dont we have a thread regarding ace? where this would be more appropriate?

 

[SP33Demon]

That would be phenomenal NightDarker. Also, anyone have an update to the case with his friend who was seriously injured as well? Last I heard, the guy that hit him was granted an appeal. :disgust:

 

[XxPrOdiGyxX]

Good sentiment, I guess. But I don't feel they will find it worth it to do a story on that. There are still Britney, Paris, Lindsay, etc. stories out there. Those are more important.