Acer B326HK 32" 4K IPS 60hz SST monitor $950

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RussianSensation

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And how many backlit zones do those that you linked have? Probably not disclosed cuz its so low. The high end panels can have 100+ and they cost an arm and a leg.

Actually the E-series Vizios have local dimming.
http://www.cnet.com/news/vizios-cheap-e-series-tvs-are-brimming-with-local-dimming/

Ok, it's not going to be as good as on a $1500-2500 2015 4K TV, but it's already happening. On the other hand, on the PC we get low grade, low quality LED/LCD panels as per usual. I've seen the same for the last 10 years. The best LCD/LED panels never make it to the PC yet we are charged $700-1000 for small panels.

Samsung UN55HU8550 - "The Samsung HU8550 offers our favorite combination of picture quality and features in a 4K TV this year, making it a good value despite the high price."
http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-un50hu8550/

Inputs: 4 HDMI 2.0, 3 USB, 1 Component, 2 Composite
Backlight: LED (Edge-Lit w/Local Dimming)
Accessories Included: Smart Remote Control, 4 Pairs of 3D Active Glasses (SSG-5150GB)

55" of 4K local dimmed LED for $1600 USD.

On the PC we are asked to pay $900-1000 for inferior Acer and BenQ 32" models, without local dimming, no 3D glasses for movies (not that I care but still it's free), no remote control, no 4 HDMI 2.0 ports and screen size a whopping 42% smaller.

Here in Canada a 50" 4K Samsung is already $900 CDN:
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...8aa067a482cf8f107ac9a9een02&SearchPageIndex=1

Moral of the story: For as long as I can remember, PC-centric monitors from Asus, Samsung, Acer, Dell, BenQ, etc. have been and will continue to be overpriced. I foresee 2015-2019 4K TVs outperforming 99% of all 4K PC monitors in nearly all performance metrics, including features, with input lag and fixed 60Hz performance being major disadvantages. However, since pushing beyond 60 fps maxed out in modern games at 4K is wishful thinking anyway, I don't view that as a disadvantage. A lot of LCD/LEDs have decent input lag for anyone but the most hardcore/semi-professional gamer. Perhaps when 4K 120-144Hz PC monitors come out, then it will be different. The biggest "saving" feature for high prices of 4K large PC monitors will be FreeSync/GSync as I doubt this tech will be available on consumer 4K TVs.

Obviously it's not comfortable to game up-close on a 50-55" 4K TV but the point is we get charged very high prices for 27-32" monitors with inferior LCD/LED tech and features just because they are PC monitors.
 
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5150Joker

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Again, those TV's have almost non-existent dimming zones. That's the point, the ones that do have a lot also cost a fortune. Local dimming (even with a low % of zones) in a PC display would be helpful, I agree but I think the market is so cut throat and low volume that these display makers don't bother.
 

rickon66

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I am wanting one of these Acers also and will pull the trigger when I can get one at about the $800 level. Hopefully this will happen in the next couple of months.
 

Smokey Nice

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Awaiting impressions on this monitor. I currently have a Dell U3011, ROG Swift, and a Samsung U28D590D. Overall I prefer the U3011 and am using it now. I was just thinking the other day that I would like to add a 30"+ 4k monitor, but Dell and Asus offerings are quite outdated and use MST. It's unfortunate that Dell hasn't updated it's line as I really like the UltraSharp line of monitors.
 

hawtdawg

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At the end of the day, local dimming is still just another vain attempt to polish the LCD turd. Even the better arrays still have halos. OLED where art thou?


This

As an actual display technology, LCD will never be as good as the CRT's they replaced. Having a plasma TV and an AMOLED phone makes using LCD monitors almost unbearable. They're fine for web browsing, but when it comes to games and video, the black levels and sub-1000:1 contrast ratio really make the picture take a giant shit.
 

Grooveriding

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Awaiting impressions on this monitor. I currently have a Dell U3011, ROG Swift, and a Samsung U28D590D. Overall I prefer the U3011 and am using it now. I was just thinking the other day that I would like to add a 30"+ 4k monitor, but Dell and Asus offerings are quite outdated and use MST. It's unfortunate that Dell hasn't updated it's line as I really like the UltraSharp line of monitors.

It just shipped to me today, should have it by the end of the week. I'll be back to post some pictures and impressions.
 

alcoholbob

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Russian, you forget TVs save money with crap pwm frequencies. Even a $10,000
TV has 180hz pwm flickering that you don't have with the high end of monitors. Not to mention not having to deal with passive 3d lines running across the screen. Also these large TVs have severe uniformity issues compared to monitors.
 

Global688

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Ended up buying one of these. Had to same day a DP 1.2 cable though. The one that comes in the box wont let you do 4k@60hz. First impressions:

My mouth hit the floor playing a few games
I wish there was option to scale the ui for the desktop and nothing else i.e. games
4k videos are pretty
A single 290x is fine for 4k gaming (yes arma 3 runs just fine)
Didn't notice much of a difference turning on / off post processing stuff
 

Majcric

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I want. But I lack the GPU power. Waiting on gm 200 or Amds offering in 2015. Hopefully it won't be 16.
 

RussianSensation

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On sale for 800(USA) for a couple days. Monitor options the past year have exploded! I'm sure there is plenty of discussion about strategy for this at AMD/Nvidia.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...m-_-24-009-716

Incredible how quickly prices are falling. :thumbsup:

Thank god the dreadful decade of overpriced $1000-1300 1600P 30" monitors are over. 4K IPS monitors dropping in price to $800 for 32" will also have the added benefit of putting extra price pressure on any TN GSync/FreeSync monitors coming out. Once user feedback starts leaking that these 4K IPS panels are actually very good, fewer and fewer gamers will be interested in 27" TN 1440P $800+ monitors such as the Swift, which means those prices won't be sustainable long-term.
 

Imyourzero

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This

As an actual display technology, LCD will never be as good as the CRT's they replaced. Having a plasma TV and an AMOLED phone makes using LCD monitors almost unbearable. They're fine for web browsing, but when it comes to games and video, the black levels and sub-1000:1 contrast ratio really make the picture take a giant shit.

Never used a VA panel like the BenQ BL3200PT? VA panels address both of the things you mention.

I used to be an IPS elitist but I enjoy the picture quality of my BL3200PT more than my LG 34" Ultrawide and Dell U3011 almost entirely due to the inky, deep black levels and the superior contrast ratio.
 

Subyman

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I've been following this monitor for awhile. Decided to go with the Swift instead due to gsync and 144hz. Glad I did, but am still interested in a 4k once they integrate gsync or freesync with them.
 

DooKey

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I've been following this monitor for awhile. Decided to go with the Swift instead due to gsync and 144hz. Glad I did, but am still interested in a 4k once they integrate gsync or freesync with them.

I'll go 4K when they offer something over 60Hz refresh rate. Until then I'll stick with my Swift.
 

JoeRambo

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I'll go 4K when they offer something over 60Hz refresh rate. Until then I'll stick with my Swift.

Asus should release Swift2, 4k swift quality TN + Gsync @ 120-144hz. I'd buy that over 60Hz IPS without hesitation.
 
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