Users will have to open the app on their Android or Apple devices before filming, ACLU officials said. When the recording stops, it automatically sends a copy to the ACLUs server and keeps the video on the phone.
Other ACLU chapters that rolled out similar apps in a handful of other states last fall reported limited use. In Mississippi, about 275 Android users have submitted about 50 videos, a spokeswoman said. The numbers were higher in Missouri about 570 recordings from about 2,500 Android users but none raised any flags with ACLU officials.
New York Citys chapter in 2012 was the first to develop such an app, to address the NYPDs controversial stop-and-frisk strategy. It has received an estimated 40,000 recordings since then, spokeswoman Jennifer Carnig said.
The ACLU became an issue in the 1988 presidential campaign, when Republican candidate George H. W. Bush accused Democratic candidate Michael Dukakis (a member of the ACLU) of being a "card carrying member of the ACLU".[268]
Too bad it can't stream the video into the server as its being recorded. They'd have a lot of videos ending with a hand grabbing the phone and then rapidly approaching pavement.
Yep. Useless. I was going to make a thread about these apps.Too bad it can't stream the video into the server as its being recorded. They'd have a lot of videos ending with a hand grabbing the phone and then rapidly approaching pavement.
ACLU likely angered the entire GOP over minorities, but only the ruling class with individual rights. Seeing as I got nothing against minorities, and I'm not ruling, I got no beef with them.The ACLU became an issue in the 1988 presidential campaign, when Republican candidate George H. W. Bush accused Democratic candidate Michael Dukakis (a member of the ACLU) of being a "card carrying member of the ACLU".[268]
Where could this lead us eventually? Nothing but pure goodness? Live streaming will be used by those that wish to attain more power over us. That's an inevitability. Bad things that happened on a massive scale in recorded history were rooted in something that seemed very good at the time.So... to them for trying to do something good. Live streaming is exactly what will dynamically shift the balance of power in this country. Against anyone who'd wish to do us harm. The public eye can be used for good things.
So did good things.Bad things that happened on a massive scale in recorded history were rooted in something that seemed very good at the time.
Strangely, for an organization that is supposed to be big government loving communists, the ACLU sues the government for abuse of power more than any other.Many right wingers have reflexively heaped scorn on the ACLU in P&N and IRL over the years, based on what I consider their reflexive ideological ignorance, despite the fact that their support of individual rights has led them to partner with the NRA against a Federal Gun Registry, and to go to court on behalf of such luminaries as Rush Limbaugh, Oliver North and George Wallace.
Where could this lead us eventually? Nothing but pure goodness? Live streaming will be used by those that wish to attain more power over us. That's an inevitability. Bad things that happened on a massive scale in recorded history were rooted in something that seemed very good at the time.
Eventually we'll all have a price on our heads and many that will be oh so willing to cash in. Think long term, not in the here and now. You don't retain your civil liberties by having your actions recorded by people with an ax to grind or for monetary gain.
It's pretty disturbing to hear that there are so many that think surrendering personal liberties will guarantee the retention of their civil liberties.
The ACLU has positioned or is positioning itself to be a clearing house for these video recordings. My issue is with one entity 'in charge' so to speak. Record things to your heart's content but submitting them to one entity to be used if and as they see fit is where the mistake lies. Condensing or centralizing power is the issue.Let me see if I understand you correctly. In order to guarantee the retention of our civil liberties, we must sacrifice our freedom to record our daily lives for our own benefit? Is that what you're saying?
Because the only way to stop all the private video recording out there would be to pass a law against it. Otherwise, technology has put a camera in everyone's pocket. Get over it.
Obviously, some laws must be in place to prevent certain abuses, like blackmail, or revenge porn, etc., but there will be ZERO protections for public servants while they acting in their official capacity.
What??The ACLU has positioned or is positioning itself to be a clearing house for these video recordings. My issue is with one entity 'in charge' so to speak. Record things to your heart's content but submitting them to one entity to be used if and as they see fit is where the mistake lies. Condensing or centralizing power is the issue.
What??
You still retain a recording of what you recorded. If I were a dishonest policeman, and I took your phone, if you uploaded a video to nearly anything that the vast majority of people (not the .1% of the people who are are savvy enough), I would be able to erase it. If you uploaded to Youtube, then you're likely still logged in to youtube, and with your phone, I'd have access to your account. I could go in and delete any video you had just posted. Ditto any cloud account you have. But, if you uploaded video to the ACLU, there's not a prayer that I'm going to be able to delete it, or convince them to delete it.
This provides people with a stronger protection to protect their rights.
Anyone else can write an app to do this. Police vids exist already everywhere from liveleak to YouTube.The ACLU has positioned or is positioning itself to be a clearing house for these video recordings. My issue is with one entity 'in charge' so to speak. Record things to your heart's content but submitting them to one entity to be used if and as they see fit is where the mistake lies. Condensing or centralizing power is the issue.
I wonder if this can be used to record citizens breaking the law as well, like committing DWIs, for example. I fucking hate drunk drivers. Seems like a good idea in general, regardless.
You're starting to hit on the point I've been failing to make. It won't be just for cop video's.I wonder if this can be used to record citizens breaking the law as well, like committing DWIs, for example. I fucking hate drunk drivers. Seems like a good idea in general, regardless.
Why would you need this for that? This is only serving a point when you think the video can be forcibly taken from you.I wonder if this can be used to record citizens breaking the law as well, like committing DWIs, for example. I fucking hate drunk drivers. Seems like a good idea in general, regardless.
Impossibly. Google and other engines have already consolidated everything on the internet that is text, and many are now consolidating images as well. They will shortly be able to not just index video based on its meta data (such as video title), but also content, as the software is smart enough to actually "watch" videos. Thus, it doesn't matter if various videos are on multiple sites.I'd rather the recordings be scattered wherever instead of being in a central location where they can be indexed by name, location or whatever so that they are easily accessed.
Long term, you're not being completely insane with the quality of this concern. The examples are extreme but in the right kind of vein. It's a brave new world.How would you like to put your home up for sale only to find that it's on a list of hazardous waste sites and can't be sold without a cleanup? It's because your neighbor had recorded you when you dropped a CFL in the garage and you didn't call a hazmat team to clean it up. Sounds ridiculous, but our news is filled with stories containing ridiculous circumstances on a regular basis. WTF stories. Ever change your own oil and have some not make it into the drain pan? How would you like that to bite you on the ass ten years down the road when some environmental wackos are in power in your town?
The public eye can be used for good things.
Where could this lead us eventually? Nothing but pure goodness? Live streaming will be used by those that wish to attain more power over us. That's an inevitability. Bad things that happened on a massive scale in recorded history were rooted in something that seemed very good at the time.
Eventually we'll all have a price on our heads and many that will be oh so willing to cash in.
There is nothing stopping anyone else from offering a similar service.The ACLU has positioned or is positioning itself to be a clearing house for these video recordings. My issue is with one entity 'in charge' so to speak. Record things to your heart's content but submitting them to one entity to be used if and as they see fit is where the mistake lies. Condensing or centralizing power is the issue.
Ya think?There is nothing stopping anyone else from offering a similar service.
Not a problem. I rarely find your logic logical myself.The ridiculously contrived illogic that you've used in this thread is fairly astounding.
Let me know when there will be a pony around every corner. Oh, and balloons. I like balloons.So now everyone will know it... and only the most deranged would try something stupid, or harmful. Our future society is one in which there are no more bad neighborhoods, street corners, or alleyways. Because those "bad places" will no longer cover criminals and their victims from the public eye.