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Speedy3D!

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Yeah, how dare they have different views than you. How dare they fight for equal rights for everybody. What a bunch of scumbags the ALCU is... :roll:

Here's your mandatory
 

Pliablemoose

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I voted for Bush & donate money every paycheck to the ACLU

What can I say? I like to see a good fight
 

Gen Stonewall

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As WorldNetDaily reported, an ACLU lawsuit against the Pentagon resulted in an agreement announced this week to ensure military bases do not sponsor Boy Scout troops.

Sometimes I think the ACLU is either crazy or evil. This is taking the idea of separation of church and state to an unreasonable extreme.
 

miketheidiot

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Sep 3, 2004
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Great high quality organization this is. :roll:
 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Gen Stonewall
As WorldNetDaily reported, an ACLU lawsuit against the Pentagon resulted in an agreement announced this week to ensure military bases do not sponsor Boy Scout troops.
Sometimes I think the ACLU is either crazy or evil. This is taking the idea of separation of church and state to an unreasonable extreme.
How do you get church and state out of that sentence?
 

CocoMunkee

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It will be beneficial to all if the ACLU gets rid of its radical ways and does champion the rights it is supposed to protect including the right to worship god or not if one chooses.
 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: CocoMunkee
It will be beneficial to all if the ACLU gets rid of its radical ways and does champion the rights it is supposed to protect including the right to worship god or not if one chooses.
How is the ACLU trying to keep people from worshipping God or not? Keeping religious concepts out of public schools and the public square is NOT infringing upon anyone's right to freedom of religion.
 

kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Gen Stonewall
As WorldNetDaily reported, an ACLU lawsuit against the Pentagon resulted in an agreement announced this week to ensure military bases do not sponsor Boy Scout troops.
Sometimes I think the ACLU is either crazy or evil. This is taking the idea of separation of church and state to an unreasonable extreme.
How do you get church and state out of that sentence?

The basis of the ACLU's complaint was that Boy Scouts require a belief in God as a condition of membership. They felt that having a military base sponsor a scout troop was tantamount to government sponsorship of religion.
 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Gen Stonewall
As WorldNetDaily reported, an ACLU lawsuit against the Pentagon resulted in an agreement announced this week to ensure military bases do not sponsor Boy Scout troops.
Sometimes I think the ACLU is either crazy or evil. This is taking the idea of separation of church and state to an unreasonable extreme.
How do you get church and state out of that sentence?
The basis of the ACLU's complaint was that Boy Scouts require a belief in God as a condition of membership. They felt that having a military base sponsor a scout troop was tantamount to government sponsorship of religion.
I can see both sides of that. Leave it to a judge to decide.
 

ATIuser

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Gen Stonewall
As WorldNetDaily reported, an ACLU lawsuit against the Pentagon resulted in an agreement announced this week to ensure military bases do not sponsor Boy Scout troops.
Sometimes I think the ACLU is either crazy or evil. This is taking the idea of separation of church and state to an unreasonable extreme.
How do you get church and state out of that sentence?
The basis of the ACLU's complaint was that Boy Scouts require a belief in God as a condition of membership. They felt that having a military base sponsor a scout troop was tantamount to government sponsorship of religion.
I can see both sides of that. Leave it to a judge to decide.
I would be really interested to see which part or parts of the constitution grant any judge or court this power.
I don't believe such a section exists.
How about we just let each base commander decide?
 

Gen Stonewall

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Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Gen Stonewall
As WorldNetDaily reported, an ACLU lawsuit against the Pentagon resulted in an agreement announced this week to ensure military bases do not sponsor Boy Scout troops.
Sometimes I think the ACLU is either crazy or evil. This is taking the idea of separation of church and state to an unreasonable extreme.
How do you get church and state out of that sentence?

The basis of the ACLU's complaint was that Boy Scouts require a belief in God as a condition of membership. They felt that having a military base sponsor a scout troop was tantamount to government sponsorship of religion.

Yes. Good sig also.
 

KidViciou$

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afaik, the only thing the ACLU has done that i disagree with is fight for the right for a 10 year old boy to divorce his parents, even though he wasn't abused. of course i'm going by the heresay of someone, but i have no problem with the ACLU, and appreciate their work
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
afaik, the only thing the ACLU has done that i disagree with is fight for the right for a 10 year old boy to divorce his parents, even though he wasn't abused. of course i'm going by the heresay of someone, but i have no problem with the ACLU, and appreciate their work

Why do you appreciate their work?
 

Tom

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
afaik, the only thing the ACLU has done that i disagree with is fight for the right for a 10 year old boy to divorce his parents, even though he wasn't abused. of course i'm going by the heresay of someone, but i have no problem with the ACLU, and appreciate their work

Why do you appreciate their work?


http://archive.aclu.org/news/1999/n072099d.html


http://archive.aclu.org/news/1999/n032299c.html


http://atheism.about.com/b/a/125225.htm


http://friends.macjournals.com/mattd/discuss/msgReader$837


http://www.aclu-nj.org/issues/...theacludefendscops.htm

 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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Nice to see that the ACLU is as hated on the far Right as ever, even though they've defended the rights of Neo-Nazis...

Depend on the damned Commie-Libs to use something like the Constitution to hide their seditious, disloyal and anti-jebus agenda. How low can they go? What's next? Do they really think anybody takes the Bill of Rights seriously?
 

KidViciou$

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: KidViciou$
afaik, the only thing the ACLU has done that i disagree with is fight for the right for a 10 year old boy to divorce his parents, even though he wasn't abused. of course i'm going by the heresay of someone, but i have no problem with the ACLU, and appreciate their work

Why do you appreciate their work?

in addition to what tom mentioned, they fight for people's civil liberties when no one else will. they won't let ANY bureaucrat impose their beliefs on other citizens. they will become a VERY important organization in the coming years
 

Rainsford

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Apr 25, 2001
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I'm sorry, but I find it hard to take a group seriously when they are quoted as describing the ACLU as...
relentlessly and fiercely assaulting America's foundations
...while this same group is fighting to destroy the ACLU because the ACLU has a different viewpoint and fights to get equal rights for EVERYONE. Don't people read history any more? Don't they know what this country is really about, what's so great about American democracy?

People complain a lot about the government and how they are going to break democracy. I don't agree. I think the end of democracy in this country, if it comes, will come from small-minded, self-righteous fools like the guy behind this group. They would be faintly amusing, like the dumb kid who keeps raising his hand in class and getting the answers wrong, if it wasn't for the fact that there are far too many of these people for comfort.
 

IndieSnob

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I'd like to see how quickly the OP would criticize the ACLU if he ever needed his services. Let's face it folks, any group of this nature is going to have defend views we might not like, but that's what freedom is about. And after all, isn't hating freedom unpatriotic?
 

smashp

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Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: wiin
Citizens mobilized to stop ACLU


About time somebody take on the american communist liberty union


I would not be surprised if the people who run the US would try to "take on" the ACLU. But how would the do it legally? How is the ACLU breaking the law?

This article is a POS. Its just more flamebait and hate against a supposed "Liberal " group.


How would the right survive with out their Boogiemen to keep people afaid.
 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: IndieSnob
I'd like to see how quickly the OP would criticize the ACLU if he ever needed his services. Let's face it folks, any group of this nature is going to have defend views we might not like, but that's what freedom is about. And after all, isn't hating freedom unpatriotic?
Notice how wiin has failed to return to this thread?
 
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