I'm ok with that. I just think that we should keep the guns and the people separated as much as possible.
I'm ok with that. I just think that we should keep the guns and the people separated as much as possible.I honestly think the NRA are 100% right when they say that guns don't kill people, people kill people.
What I believe that is that he intentionally missed just to spook the guy.
I think it is both. People WITH guns kill people disproportionately more than any other weapon. We don't see many mass crowbarring's, or mass knifings. Because those "tools" require you to be braver than most people are. It is easy to point something that is easily accessible (for many bad reasons) and kill someone, than it is to run up to them with a bat etc. And guns are a lot more deadly on their own vs. other options that one could potentially use. Of all the random things i mentioned as a murder weapon, only 1 of them was designed for that intention, and it is really good at its job.I honestly think the NRA are 100% right when they say that guns don't kill people, people kill people.
That was a dumbass place to be opening fire regardless. He went prone with no cover, in plain view of the expected line of fire, and fired upwards at the vehicle where the person inside was now behind cover. Every round he fired would have had to go through steel and several seats to hit his target, and any miss was now traveling at a ~30-45 degree angle to parts unknown. Then he dropped his weapon.Not only does he have PTSD (maybe from police training) and should not be a cop, he is also a horrible shot apparently.
Honest question. Would that sort of PTSD stop you from owning a gun in the US? Because it absolutely should!There’s gotta be an element of PTSD at work here, right?
Severe PTSD like you see in combat veterans who were really in the shit is to be considered a mental health issue, and that's exactly the kind of thing that should exclude someone from owning a firearm until that's been dealt with, if ever.Honest question. Would that sort of PTSD stop you from owning a gun in the US? Because it absolutely should!
He's a high functioning individual. Has a bachelor's. He has combat training. His role had him in combat areas but he wasn't expected to be on the front lines kicking in doors and other grunt work.I don't disagree with the rest of your post, but I think this one remark is laughable. Did you even watch the video? Now keep in mind, this was in a dense residential neighborhood, with his partner downrange from him. Notice his apparent aim as seen from his bodycam footage.
I mean, the officer not only believed there was gunfire (from the handcuffed guy in the back of the squad that had already been searched), but believed or at least claimed that he had been hit. He wasn't trying to spook anyone, he was the spooked one and way too scared to be a police officer.
It runs parallel to pitbulls. If a pitbull attacks it is more likely to cause a fatality than most other breeds. Similarly someone with a gun is more likely to kill in an attack than those with other weapons. Might even be able to draw similarities between owners of both that are irresponsible.I think it is both. People WITH guns kill people disproportionately more than any other weapon. We don't see many mass crowbarring's, or mass knifings. Because those "tools" require you to be braver than most people are. It is easy to point something that is easily accessible (for many bad reasons) and kill someone, than it is to run up to them with a bat etc. And guns are a lot more deadly on their own vs. other options that one could potentially use. Of all the random things i mentioned as a murder weapon, only 1 of them was designed for that intention, and it is really good at its job.
Eh? Pretty sure if I shoot up a place of work I would be in jail.Regardless of where the man's problems originate. He should be stripped of possessing firearms.
In a better society, he would receive the help that he needs and NOT lose the home he is in as a result of this.
You don’t understand him at all.Can’t make this shit up
Florida deputy fires weapon after mistaking sound of acorn hitting patrol car for gunshot
A now-former Florida deputy fired his weapon after mistaking the sound of an acorn hitting the roof of his patrol vehicle as a muffled gunshot, an investigation found.abcnews.go.com
Acorn falls on his patrol car, he screams shots fired, I’m hit while doing somersaults and then opens fire emptying the magazine into his car with an unarmed suspect in the back. His partner thinking he’s been shot also opens fire on the car.
Just amazing.
That’s a deep cut right there.You don’t understand him at all.
He was responding to the threat of ACORN, which required a military response, as shown by James O’Keefe.
WITAF are you going on about?Officers in the military are not enlisted personnel.
He never started as a proper grunt, an 11B with the rank of private.
He was a Cadet at West Point, got his required bachelor's degree, obtained a commission, and then started off as a 2nd Lieutenant(a butterbar). Only during the period of being in the lowest ranks would there be any action for an officer. The higher up he went in the officer ranks, the more desk job and administrative his job became.
It's not easy to enlist first and then become an officer. They actually make it hard and you have to do stuff like Green-to-Gold to get out of the enlisted ranks into the officer ranks. Officers are assigned their division, they don't get a choice.
What I believe that is that he intentionally missed just to spook the guy.
The Army is actually quite adept at "legal weaseling". It's one of the branches of government where it can exercise it's enforcement and money grubbing functions at will. Getting "article 15'd" is a rite of passage, where the slightest of flaws, or even made up flaws can result in disciplinary action.
The military's rank system is derived from the old British system. What was changed was the removal of the ability to merely buy a commission. But the separation of those with a commission and non-commissioned officers remain, and those with commission have power over all NCOs. The drill sergeant you might have seen in movies appears to be an authority, but he is actually low on the actual rank scale, a disposable enlisted. Plenty of red herrings for civilians to get confused on who is actually the boss in the military.
My father, who served in WWII as enlisted in the Navy, got appointment to Annapolis in 1948.Officers in the military are not enlisted personnel.
He never started as a proper grunt, an 11B with the rank of private.
He was a Cadet at West Point, got his required bachelor's degree, obtained a commission, and then started off as a 2nd Lieutenant(a butterbar). Only during the period of being in the lowest ranks would there be any action for an officer. The higher up he went in the officer ranks, the more desk job and administrative his job became.
It's not easy to enlist first and then become an officer. They actually make it hard and you have to do stuff like Green-to-Gold to get out of the enlisted ranks into the officer ranks. Officers are assigned their division, they don't get a choice.
What I believe that is that he intentionally missed just to spook the guy.
The Army is actually quite adept at "legal weaseling". It's one of the branches of government where it can exercise it's enforcement and money grubbing functions at will. Getting "article 15'd" is a rite of passage, where the slightest of flaws, or even made up flaws can result in disciplinary action.
The military's rank system is derived from the old British system. What was changed was the removal of the ability to merely buy a commission. But the separation of those with a commission and non-commissioned officers remain, and those with commission have power over all NCOs. The drill sergeant you might have seen in movies appears to be an authority, but he is actually low on the actual rank scale, a disposable enlisted. Plenty of red herrings for civilians to get confused on who is actually the boss in the military.
Not only does he have PTSD (maybe from police training) and should not be a cop, he is also a horrible shot apparently.
You don’t understand him at all.
He was responding to the threat of ACORN, which required a military response, as shown by James O’Keefe.
That’s a deep cut right there.
There’s gotta be an element of PTSD at work here, right?
Same.Honestly, when I read this thread title yesterday, with Acorn at the front, this is what I thought it was going to be about. (eh, before finishing the rest of the title)
Did you mean article 134?Officers in the military are not enlisted personnel.
He never started as a proper grunt, an 11B with the rank of private.
He was a Cadet at West Point, got his required bachelor's degree, obtained a commission, and then started off as a 2nd Lieutenant(a butterbar). Only during the period of being in the lowest ranks would there be any action for an officer. The higher up he went in the officer ranks, the more desk job and administrative his job became.
It's not easy to enlist first and then become an officer. They actually make it hard and you have to do stuff like Green-to-Gold to get out of the enlisted ranks into the officer ranks. Officers are assigned their division, they don't get a choice.
What I believe that is that he intentionally missed just to spook the guy.
The Army is actually quite adept at "legal weaseling". It's one of the branches of government where it can exercise it's enforcement and money grubbing functions at will. Getting "article 15'd" is a rite of passage, where the slightest of flaws, or even made up flaws can result in disciplinary action.
The military's rank system is derived from the old British system. What was changed was the removal of the ability to merely buy a commission. But the separation of those with a commission and non-commissioned officers remain, and those with commission have power over all NCOs. The drill sergeant you might have seen in movies appears to be an authority, but he is actually low on the actual rank scale, a disposable enlisted. Plenty of red herrings for civilians to get confused on who is actually the boss in the military.