[Action RPG] Path of Exile

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Game is ok but suffers from many of the same problems of D3 (namely pathetically bad story and NPCs that you don't care about at all). I like the loot a bit better than D3 and the gameplay is more interesting (D3 puts me to sleep). My friend didn't like it though and went back to playing D3 and said he felt the gameplay was a lot better, which I disagree with. I really like the skill gems

I don't really get the respec'ing here. I could see not allowing it if it was the actual skills but since this is all passive limiting it as much as they have just seems pointless, especially since so many of the branches have similarities. The +Dex/Str/Int seems like a waste as well. I think fewer branches (that you could more easily plan out) but with more incremental improvements would work a lot better. I have no more interest in re-rolling a character than I would otherwise.

This is just another middling hack and slash game. Diablo 3 and Torchlight are the same for me. They're decent in some ways but all fall well short of being great. Honestly that seems to be the standard for the genre now, and I think it needs shaken up badly.
 
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Chiropteran

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I think fewer branches (that you could more easily plan out) but with more incremental improvements would work a lot better.

That is the kind of thinking that leads to World of Warcraft and D3 super-simplified skills and talents. The fact that it is hard to determine the "optimal" spec is seen as a plus by the fans, as it gives the game depth and rewards theory-crafting and experimentation.

Respec limits are related to that. If you can simple respec easily, then the rewards for finding a cool spec is less because anyone can easily copy you with little effort.
 

JEDI

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so i started a ground slam maurader.

uggg.. after playing an archer, it's tedious to run after those venom snakes in act2 normal.

using leap slam, i'm hopping around like a stupid rabbit.

other suggestionns on dealing with long range monsters?
 

Chiropteran

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I haven't played a melee very far into the game, but I've heard if you take the right support gems ground slam range gets much bigger and might be a viable way to kill ranged enemies from afar. Another option is lightning strike, or possibly a totem of some kind.
 

JEDI

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0.10.1d patch:

adds several security features. Many users have been arriving at Path of Exile pre-compromised because their usernames/passwords are on giant lists that are leaked from other games or websites in the past.


What list? how did their passwords get compromised from those other games?
and if compromised, why are they still using the same password elsewhere?
 

Chiropteran

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What that means is that chiropteran uses the account name chiropteran for path of exile & anandtech forums, and also uses the same password for both. Anandtech forums are hacked and the account names and passwords are leaked. As a result, the hackers can also get into the chiropteran in path of exile.

As far as why people use the same accounts and passwords, laziness, lack of care, and stupidity are the main reasons.
 

DAGTA

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I asked lucxx what he meant, and he said "tribal chests"

Just guessing:

Grinding Gear Games is a New Zealand company. New Zealand has native (you can argue that) people called the Mauri. The Mauri have a bunch of tribalism so it's fairly common to see in New Zealand.
 

Maleficus

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ANGRYMAL down lvl 65 died in merciless @ dread thicket, got 1 shot by a fucking yellow bear.

2200 HP 5k armor, instapeaced.
 

Udgnim

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ANGRYMAL down lvl 65 died in merciless @ dread thicket, got 1 shot by a fucking yellow bear.

2200 HP 5k armor, instapeaced.

just curious if you know that the physical reduction provided by armor has less of an effect the greater a single hit is from a mob

meaning having a bigger HP pool is a better safeguard than trying to get a balance between HP and armor/physical reduction
 

Maleficus

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just curious if you know that the physical reduction provided by armor has less of an effect the greater a single hit is from a mob

meaning having a bigger HP pool is a better safeguard than trying to get a balance between HP and armor/physical reduction

Yes I am aware, you still need to maintain armor for the mobs.
 

JamesV

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Wish I had realized this sooner, so posting it for others that might not know about it.

Every time you level, go hit every merchant from every act, because they get new inventory to sell you. The obvious example is looking for red-blue-green linked items to sell for a chromatic orb, in effect trading up low level alt/trans orbs.

Other things to look for :
- perfect res/rarity/dex/etc rings and amulets to use with alch orbs
- quality flasks - rare, but only cost wisdom scrolls, turn into glassblowers
- 6 socket items - buy and sell for 7 jewelers orbs
- 5linked items

I levelled from 64-67 last night, and in those three levels I got from merchants :

26 chromatic orbs
2 5linked armors
14 jewellers orbs
1 glassblower and 34% total quality of flasks to next one
10 or so perfect rings/amulets
6 40 life belts
about 4 helm and boot 4linked gear to use alchs on

Not bad for 10 minutes of shopping after levelling. Wish I had been doing this since I started, as I average around 9 chromatics easy a level... would have over 300 easy by now.
 

Chiropteran

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ANGRYMAL down lvl 65 died in merciless @ dread thicket, got 1 shot by a fucking yellow bear.

2200 HP 5k armor, instapeaced.

Ouch, those bears can be brutal. HP does seem a little low though, I'm around 2k at 50, I'd be surprised if I only increased it by 200 over the next 10 levels.

Though I've been playing a new character lately, a 100% dedicated summoner witch, no blood magic this time. With Necromantic Aegis and various +minion life nodes my zombies almost never die. Working through Act 3 normal right now.
 

JEDI

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Wish I had realized this sooner, so posting it for others that might not know about it.

Every time you level, go hit every merchant from every act, because they get new inventory to sell you. The obvious example is looking for red-blue-green linked items to sell for a chromatic orb, in effect trading up low level alt/trans orbs.

Other things to look for :
- perfect res/rarity/dex/etc rings and amulets to use with alch orbs
- quality flasks - rare, but only cost wisdom scrolls, turn into glassblowers
- 6 socket items - buy and sell for 7 jewelers orbs
- 5linked items

I levelled from 64-67 last night, and in those three levels I got from merchants :

26 chromatic orbs
2 5linked armors
14 jewellers orbs
1 glassblower and 34% total quality of flasks to next one
10 or so perfect rings/amulets
6 40 life belts
about 4 helm and boot 4linked gear to use alchs on

Not bad for 10 minutes of shopping after levelling. Wish I had been doing this since I started, as I average around 9 chromatics easy a level... would have over 300 easy by now.

did not know about quality flasks sold at vendor!
unfortunately, just checked all the vendors with my act2 Cruel maurader, and did not find any quality flasks

What do you do with the perfect rings/amulets/belts/4L helms, boots, and gloves?
Alch them all? and if u dont need them? Sell them back to the vendor?

Would you sell a 5L RRRGG for cheap (ie: 1 alch) to a fellow ATOT member?
 

JamesV

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did not know about quality flasks sold at vendor!
unfortunately, just checked all the vendors with my act2 Cruel maurader, and did not find any quality flasks

What do you do with the perfect rings/amulets/belts/4L helms, boots, and gloves?
Alch them all? and if u dont need them? Sell them back to the vendor?

Would you sell a 5L RRRGG for cheap (ie: 1 alch) to a fellow ATOT member?

The flasks seemed to be a fluke; leveled up twice more, and only found one 8% flask from 18 merch visits (norm,cruel,merci all acts). Got 11 chromatics the first time, and 6 the second.

Perfect rings and other items I use with alch orbs, when I need a specific stat (like losing dex I need off boots I upgrade), or trying to get an upgrade (good 40 life belt). I pretty much always buy 4 link boots/gloves/helms with color sockets combos I need, for when I have alot of alchs to spend.

Already sold both the armors, sorry. Got 3gcp for one, and 4gcp for the other.
 

clok1966

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question: Do you guys play the game normal once through, then switch to Hardcore?

I played till about 22 on normal when i found out Hardcore existed.. then switched.. Not having much luck once i get to Jailer.. no problem till then. I must say I still enjoy it even if I have to start over, but going through the same 10-12 levels is starting to stale up a bit.
 

Dumac

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question: Do you guys play the game normal once through, then switch to Hardcore?

I played till about 22 on normal when i found out Hardcore existed.. then switched.. Not having much luck once i get to Jailer.. no problem till then. I must say I still enjoy it even if I have to start over, but going through the same 10-12 levels is starting to stale up a bit.

I already have 8 characters, so I'm familiar with the first levels. Each time goes a little bit faster.

I don't really enjoy hardcore, so I avoid it altogether. But I suppose playing normal a little just to get used to the game may be useful. At least in this game when you HC character dies, they just transfer to SC.
 

JamesV

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Vendor inventories refresh every 24 hours as well as when you level.

I've read this before, but it doesn't seem to be the case. Even on my summoner witch, who I haven't played in a week - logged on her and checked merchants; same items. Maybe the mechanic is bugged?

Hit 70 with my fireball witch last night, and did my first map. Still having some survivability issues, because I really need to upgrade some gear, but overall I'm pretty much stomping through content.

Not enjoying end game party games at all, and feel they really need to work on that part of the game. So, so many particles going off, that I can't even see the mobs half the time. Not a good combo when your gear isn't quite up to par. Considering turning all graphics to the lowest to see if that helps.
 

imaheadcase

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The lag in this game is quite annoying, died 3 times yesterday cause i was glitching all over the map.
 

Rhezuss

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Damn you guys seem to be pros of this game.

I didn't play much but restarted a Templar last weekend and i'm completely lost. I understant the basic about this game, combat, merchants and currency, orbs, quests, etc but there something about this game that I don't get and I simply don't know what it is.

There's a lot more stuff going on than in your average ARPG and I like how the leveling system let you spec the way you want, pretty cool.

I'll play more and try to learn how this game flows, look really promising but a bit confusing...
 

Majes

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I've been enjoying the races a lot. I'm not as good as Id like, but I seem to be in the top 300 or the top 50 for my class each race. I need to work on my ability to drag mobs into large groups as I run. If you guys arent racing youre missing an amazing part of the game!
 

JEDI

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I've been enjoying the races a lot. I'm not as good as Id like, but I seem to be in the top 300 or the top 50 for my class each race. I need to work on my ability to drag mobs into large groups as I run. If you guys arent racing youre missing an amazing part of the game!

it's how fast u can level or how how many waypoints u can activate or ..?
 

Chiropteran

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it's how fast u can level or how how many waypoints u can activate or ..?

A little bit of everything.

There are points awarded for reach 20, or 23, or other level threshholds without dying, and points for being the first to kill a given boss, or fully clear certain areas (like fetid pool), and being the first to reach certain areas.
 
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