[Action RPG] Path of Exile

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HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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Well, I had started this game this past weekend. Friends were doing hardcore so I started hardcore for the shits and giggles of it. I've been going with Shadow's. First attempt was a disaster. Made it to level 4 before dying on the beach to that very first firestorm boss. I really didn't have a clue what I was doing. Second attempt wasn't much better as I died to the boss for the Medical Supplies. He froze me while all minions swarmed and killed me before the froze wore off.

So I dd a bit of reading, and researching for my third "real" attempt at hardcore Shadow. I didn't have a plan per say, but I was going to go slower, and be more careful. I did really well. Managed to get up to level 35 as a HC Shadow. Had a couple close calls with lag spikes here and there though. The damn races they run bog down the servers it seems like and lots of micro lag spikes happen during those times. Really annoying.

Anyhow, I was level 35 going after Vaal. Yes, I was WAY over leveled for him. I died. Stupid lag spike just as the fight started. I was staring at nothing, and couldn't move, nothing was happening on screen. About 10 seconds later everything flickers into place with rubberbanding action. All I see is that damn resurrect button in front of me.

Oh well, new shadow time for HC. This time I'm going a different route for my character design. At least this one has a bunch of lower level yellows to use to speed him through a bit to catch up.
 

JamesV

Platinum Member
Jul 9, 2011
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I wonder how the chaos orb recipe is going to affect prices. Apparently alot of people were running low lvl zones and turning in this recipe; I made about 4 chaos orbs trying it, but it still wasn't easy due to the low drop rate of rare rings and amulets.

Wondering if something I bought for 6 chaos orbs will now cost 18...
 

JEDI

Lifer
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I wonder how the chaos orb recipe is going to affect prices. Apparently alot of people were running low lvl zones and turning in this recipe; I made about 4 chaos orbs trying it, but it still wasn't easy due to the low drop rate of rare rings and amulets.

Wondering if something I bought for 6 chaos orbs will now cost 18...

i made 2 regals. i had enuf whetstones and blacksmiths
but yeah pain in the ass getting the 2 rings.

whats the easiest way of getting a new character from normal to cruel if you have a lvl 60 char and 2 computers?

act2 not as easy as just open portal to the waypoints.

act2 vaal- i need to do the bandits quest to get the apex. then move that ball. then use the apex to wake vaal in the pyramid

act3 peity- i dont remember? simple as just getting a portal into her chamber?
 

Chiropteran

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Nov 14, 2003
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Still slowly progressing on my main in hardcore, reached cruel piety but she was just too mean for me so I had to portal out. Time to farm up a few levels and some gear before I try again. I'd like to switch my gear from ES/armor mix to pure armor, the ES just doesn't recharge much with blood magic because casting a spell will count as taking damage and prevent the shield recharge from occurring.

Also playing a lot of alts, I like the variety and trying different builds, and I want to have some options other than starting completely over if I do die on my main.
 

JamesV

Platinum Member
Jul 9, 2011
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I only pick up 1-2 slot blues, unless it might be usable for me. So I don't end up using that many scrolls.

The only blues I identify are high zone level rings like 15% rarity, or high level spell damage wands; in case I got a lucky roll like 15% + 20% rarity, or 19% + 90% spell damage.

At 190ish rarity and 100ish quantity, one map run will net me around 2 completely full inventories of rares (3+ if 2 bosses). I also like running Battlefront for drops, since you can beeline to the orange boss, and right back to the waypoint in just a few minutes. At this point in the game, I find far more rares than I do wisdom scrolls, and don't want to endlessly merch white items for scroll pieces.

So if you have alot of wisdom scrolls, hold onto them for end game.
 

Hacp

Lifer
Jun 8, 2005
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I wonder how the chaos orb recipe is going to affect prices. Apparently alot of people were running low lvl zones and turning in this recipe; I made about 4 chaos orbs trying it, but it still wasn't easy due to the low drop rate of rare rings and amulets.

Wondering if something I bought for 6 chaos orbs will now cost 18...

I don't think it will be that drastic. 1 chaos orb will always be worth at least 1 alch and 1 scouring.
 

Chiropteran

Diamond Member
Nov 14, 2003
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New patch is out. My main witch got a passive skill refund because I had some of the changed duelist passives. 65 points to re-do. I'm going to sleep on it, might try a completely different build.
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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chaos orb recipe now require all lvl 60+ items

thats merciless act3 i think
 

Chiropteran

Diamond Member
Nov 14, 2003
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New unique which is just plain insane IMO-

http://i.imgur.com/4IuMMce.png

Lets you build an energy shield build without CI, yet still ignore hp. But even better, you can reserve hp using blood magic auras until your hp is below the 30% "low hp" threshold and gain permanent pain attunement (or other effects that require low hp).
 

Dumac

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Dec 31, 2005
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New unique which is just plain insane IMO-

http://i.imgur.com/4IuMMce.png

Lets you build an energy shield build without CI, yet still ignore hp. But even better, you can reserve hp using blood magic auras until your hp is below the 30% "low hp" threshold and gain permanent pain attunement (or other effects that require low hp).

WAIT WHAT. WTF PoE?!

This unique just makes CI completely inferior and useless.

EDIT: Whoops, read to fast. Thought it meant that you were immune to chaos damage.
 

sushicide

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Just gambled a lot of chaos on a 6 socket maul (not even linked properly yet) and walked away with no luck, while I didn't expect 5+ near perfect affix but getting 1-9 fire damage mods on i65+ items is just....infuriating. Should've taken advantage of the free respec and remake my marauder into something more fun & less item dependent, c'est la vie.
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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damn it.. forgot i was geared for farming (+Rarity/+Quantity), which meant -60% Chaos.

ran into a nest of cobras, incuding 1 yellow rare. died quicky... uggg,,
3 experience bars gone
 

imaheadcase

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May 9, 2005
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Wish you did not have dex/str/int restrictions in game. I always find better gear with other armor than armor meant for me. They loot in this game def is not worked in great. lol
 

Hacp

Lifer
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damn it.. forgot i was geared for farming (+Rarity/+Quantity), which meant -60% Chaos.

ran into a nest of cobras, incuding 1 yellow rare. died quicky... uggg,,
3 experience bars gone

I was so worried for you, until you mentioned the 3 exp bars.
 

Hacp

Lifer
Jun 8, 2005
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So just my thoughts on the chaos orb nerf and how that's affect the game. I think it'll increase the value of alchemy orbs, regals and exalteds.
 

JTDSR

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damn it.. forgot i was geared for farming (+Rarity/+Quantity), which meant -60% Chaos.

ran into a nest of cobras, incuding 1 yellow rare. died quicky... uggg,,
3 experience bars gone

I just have my totem take out the snakes while I loot.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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Well, I manged to make it to Cruel difficulty on my hardcore character. Actually just beat Brutus the warden. So far no major problems.

If not for lag spikes the game is pretty easy with a few skills. Here is what I have going.

I am playing a Shadow. I use a dagger for now, but have used swords, foils, and even a mace as the dps of it at the time of the find was much higher than anything else I had found.

I am currently building evasion and energy shield as my main 2 defensive stats and I use a shield. I am built and itemized to still have capped 75% elemental resist rates even when I entered Cruel difficulty.

Basically this is my "safe" playstyle.

I see a new area or room. If I see the monsters before they agro I toss out a fire trap and then a decoy totem from behind them. As they run up to the totem, they get hit by the trap, and I just retrap and toss out more totems. Any of them get frisky I have lightning strike. Some of the monsters are range and a bit more of a handle to deal with. For those I use whirling blades to get on top of them fast, smack that one pesky mob (like a necro summoner), and whirling blades away to safety. I have found that if you run a circle strafing pattern around monsters they can't hit you if you have 12% or higher run speed. With 18% run speed currently, I rarely ever get hit when strafing.

So it's a matter of tossing traps, totems, and circle strafing. On bosses that tear down my totem in 1 hit and are hard to go toe-to-toe with, I use viper strike. Totem at range to get the boss going to the totem, run in and hit with 1 or 2 viper strikes, then whirling blades away before the boss kills the totem and smacks me.

The only "Oh shit!" moments I have currently are lag spikes and chaos damage. I don't have much health right now in Cruel sitting at 400ish health. I have far more Energy Shield than health. I was planning on going with a CI build overall so this works well enough. But every time I get hit with chaos damage it has been OH SHIT! and hitting my health pot while running in hopes the health pot keeps up with the chaos damage drain. So far it has. Until I get ready to pick up CI though, I'll grab the 2 chaos resistance nodes that I'll spec out of later along with some chaos resistance gear.

But for now, even those oh shit chaos damage moments are rare. With my current tactics I hard ever get attacked in the first place much, and when I do I rarely get hit with my high evasion and high block chance off my shield. I only wish Phase Acrobatics wasn't after Acrobatics as a keystone. I don't mind losing the armor value, but losing my energy shield would kill me.

So I'll probably get to a point where I can farm Cruel for the gear and levels I need for having all the skills needed before assigning that one point eventually into Chaos Innoculation. Then I'll happily dump all my chaos resistance gear, passive points, and health nodes points I've picked up. With high evasion, high energy shield, passive support for energy shield, a high chance blocking shield, and energy shielding leeching I should be sitting pretty. Assuming a lag spike or inattention to chaos damage doesn't kill me.
 

Hacp

Lifer
Jun 8, 2005
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I just died on my 48 shadow. Extra damage monkies just destroyed me in the forrest. I was farming to lvl up a bit before I entered the flicker spider room. I guess its time to reroll.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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Instant death for me too last night on my 42 shadow in Ship Graveyard. Ultra warp speed undead Rinoa boss with Extra Damage, Extra Crit, and Extra Crit Damage all stacked upon him on the Extra movespeed. Fucking thing started the charge while off screen and forced an auto desync because it moved so fast. I never even got to see what happened and was 1 shotted to death.

That's the main reason hardcore sucks balls. The desync issues they have with pathing. Especially fast moving objects and stuns always cause the desyncs. Only reason I won't invest money into this game until that is actually fixed.
 

Hacp

Lifer
Jun 8, 2005
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Instant death for me too last night on my 42 shadow in Ship Graveyard. Ultra warp speed undead Rinoa boss with Extra Damage, Extra Crit, and Extra Crit Damage all stacked upon him on the Extra movespeed. Fucking thing started the charge while off screen and forced an auto desync because it moved so fast. I never even got to see what happened and was 1 shotted to death.

That's the main reason hardcore sucks balls. The desync issues they have with pathing. Especially fast moving objects and stuns always cause the desyncs. Only reason I won't invest money into this game until that is actually fixed.

That's why most people build defenses in HC. I had just taken 8 straight damage nodes, if I had life nodes instead, I might have lived -_-.
 

JamesV

Platinum Member
Jul 9, 2011
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Fucking thing started the charge while off screen and forced an auto desync because it moved so fast.

I really wish you could zoom out more. I've been killed by Roas myself in similar situations, and don't get me started on Piety's arrows, or Vaal's lightning... always seems super cheap they can nail me with multiple projectiles when I can't even see them.
 
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