[Action RPG] Path of Exile

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JamesV

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sounds just like my first kill as well, thought I was prepared but panic took over and ended up eating every other flameblast while using the wrong flasks.

1.3 patch notes are out! RIP block stacking
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1120457

Nice. Aura's affect totems now.

Played a dual flame totem build last league, and got up to level 91 with 3,200 dps per flame (GMP + 2 totems = 10 x 3,200 = 30,200 dps total). Just melted about everything, but Atziri was a bit too tough.

Was planning on trying a bow build, but think I might redo my flame totem build now.
 

Hacp

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Path of exile is a great game. Its a shame that desync ruins it if you're playing hardcore, which is the only way to play in games like this.
 

Snock514

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Path of exile is a great game. Its a shame that desync ruins it if you're playing hardcore, which is the only way to play in games like this.

Ruins is a bit strong. I think most people have learned to deal with it. It's pretty predictable and there are obvious signs when its happening or will happen.
 

Nograts

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So...found this little gem about a week ago. Not much social life since. How could I have missed this?

Definately an epic game, puts D3 to shame if you ask me (I was a huge D2 supporter). Not that it's not without its faults, but man. If D3 devs and GGG devs had a baby...ehmygerd.
 

Majes

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So...found this little gem about a week ago. Not much social life since. How could I have missed this?

Definately an epic game, puts D3 to shame if you ask me (I was a huge D2 supporter). Not that it's not without its faults, but man. If D3 devs and GGG devs had a baby...ehmygerd.

Both Path of Exile and Marvel Heroes have really made Blizzard look bad...
Not that those games are perfect, but the amount of content and depth to them just shames D3...
 

brandonb

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I haven't played this game in 2 years. Back then it had 2 acts. Which I completed. Have they added a lot of content since then?
 

smackababy

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Both Path of Exile and Marvel Heroes have really made Blizzard look bad...
Not that those games are perfect, but the amount of content and depth to them just shames D3...

PoE doesn't really a ton of depth. Don't get me wrong, I love it, but the node system is not some kind of revolutionary thing nor is it in depth. 90% of the nodes are either damage or stats. And the production value in PoE is severely lacking compared to D3, but I fully expect that for a small dev in a F2P game. Their support has been great though.

I haven't played this game in 2 years. Back then it had 2 acts. Which I completed. Have they added a lot of content since then?

Quite a bit of content has been added, as well as a lot of end game. It is certainly worth a second look, if you have time.
 

Majes

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PoE doesn't really a ton of depth. Don't get me wrong, I love it, but the node system is not some kind of revolutionary thing nor is it in depth. 90% of the nodes are either damage or stats. And the production value in PoE is severely lacking compared to D3, but I fully expect that for a small dev in a F2P game. Their support has been great though.

I'm pretty confused by this post. Of course you can just pick damage and life and go with that. My first build in each league generally does this. But there's a ton of depth in the item/skill gem/passive tree interaction. You can spend weeks learning about a skill and how it interacts with different items/skills/passives. That's the beauty of PoE. Anyone can pick a simple build and roll through the game with it. But there's complexity and depth there too if you wish to explore more.
 

JEDI

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I haven't played in over a year. (lvl 65 maurader)

I'm assuming my current equipment is outdated.
start over with a new char to get new equipment for my lvl 75?

how about currency?
I have a bunch of alchs, chaos orbs, divine, etc.
 

Udgnim

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I haven't played in over a year. (lvl 65 maurader)

I'm assuming my current equipment is outdated.
start over with a new char to get new equipment for my lvl 75?

how about currency?
I have a bunch of alchs, chaos orbs, divine, etc.

http://poe.trade/

most people trade in either chaos or exalted orb. alchs/alterations for cheaper items.
 

smackababy

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I'm pretty confused by this post. Of course you can just pick damage and life and go with that. My first build in each league generally does this. But there's a ton of depth in the item/skill gem/passive tree interaction. You can spend weeks learning about a skill and how it interacts with different items/skills/passives. That's the beauty of PoE. Anyone can pick a simple build and roll through the game with it. But there's complexity and depth there too if you wish to explore more.

Sure, there is some depth, but this idea that it is some kind of super puzzle is silly. There are maybe 20 unique nodes.

You make a a build saying "I want x and y skill with z unique" and you pick the most efficient (in terms of damage, stats, and path) to that unique. There can be tweaks, but it ain't rocket science.
 

TidusZ

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Sure, there is some depth, but this idea that it is some kind of super puzzle is silly. There are maybe 20 unique nodes.

You make a a build saying "I want x and y skill with z unique" and you pick the most efficient (in terms of damage, stats, and path) to that unique. There can be tweaks, but it ain't rocket science.

Nope

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1034503

There are simple builds out there but there are complicated builds as well and new builds are discovered with each patch
 

futurefields

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Both Path of Exile and Marvel Heroes have really made Blizzard look bad...
Not that those games are perfect, but the amount of content and depth to them just shames D3...



You can't be serious... Path of Exile is great but doesn't have 1/2 the content that D3 does.

Haven't played Marvel Heroes.
 

JamesV

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Sure, there is some depth, but this idea that it is some kind of super puzzle is silly. There are maybe 20 unique nodes.

You make a a build saying "I want x and y skill with z unique" and you pick the most efficient (in terms of damage, stats, and path) to that unique. There can be tweaks, but it ain't rocket science.

Alright, so say you want the dual totems node; that is 30-40 points to get to, now what for the other 70?

Do I go for crit, perhaps shield block, extra resistances, or even into summoning nodes for dual summon skeleton totems? Do I go for straight life, or am I planning to spam flasks for their bonuses (evasion/leech/etc) so go for the life and flask % nodes?

Should I head to the top of the tree for the fire damage nodes if I'm using flame totem, or save the points and get the closer elemental nodes?

Since there is so much armor early in the Marauder tree, do I stick with that, or skip those and invest in evasion or energy shield?

Okay, that takes care of totem questions, but what totem? Flame, summoning, EK, artic breath, searing bond, firestorm, ... (endless combos of ranged and spell totem + spell gem). Now that changes how I want to build my tree...

Really simple. /sarcasm
 

Majes

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You can't be serious... Path of Exile is great but doesn't have 1/2 the content that D3 does.

Haven't played Marvel Heroes.

I have yet to meet someone that holds this opinion so it's nice to meet you. I wonder what you consider content... If you are speaking just story content then they are nearly even. If you are talking skills they are also nearly even. To me PoE takes the lead when it comes to re-rolling and item diversity. These add to the content. The PoE smashes D3 in end-game activities with its racing and pvp.

Two years ago you may have been right, but frequent updates have left D3 in the dust...
This is all my opinion... Though I'm not entirely sure where you think PoE has less content than D3.
 

Snock514

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I have yet to meet someone that holds this opinion so it's nice to meet you. I wonder what you consider content... If you are speaking just story content then they are nearly even. If you are talking skills they are also nearly even. To me PoE takes the lead when it comes to re-rolling and item diversity. These add to the content. The PoE smashes D3 in end-game activities with its racing and pvp.

Two years ago you may have been right, but frequent updates have left D3 in the dust...
This is all my opinion... Though I'm not entirely sure where you think PoE has less content than D3.

:thumbsup:
 

smackababy

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Alright, so say you want the dual totems node; that is 30-40 points to get to, now what for the other 70?

Do I go for crit, perhaps shield block, extra resistances, or even into summoning nodes for dual summon skeleton totems? Do I go for straight life, or am I planning to spam flasks for their bonuses (evasion/leech/etc) so go for the life and flask % nodes?

Should I head to the top of the tree for the fire damage nodes if I'm using flame totem, or save the points and get the closer elemental nodes?

Since there is so much armor early in the Marauder tree, do I stick with that, or skip those and invest in evasion or energy shield?

Okay, that takes care of totem questions, but what totem? Flame, summoning, EK, artic breath, searing bond, firestorm, ... (endless combos of ranged and spell totem + spell gem). Now that changes how I want to build my tree...

Really simple. /sarcasm

Is that really that complicated? Perhaps, I am just more advanced. You determine what you want skill gem wise, and spec for it. Your build, say something like a dual EK totem, you'd go dual totem, physical damage and however much survivability you feel okay with.

There are a lot of combinations, but they certainly aren't some kind of advanced puzzle people try and make it out to be. The vast majority of builds are simply getting the unique nodes that are required and them min / maxing damage and survivability and which balance you find appropriate (glass cannon, tank, etc). It is more in depth than D3 (which is pretty much all on gear), but it certainly isn't some kind of puzzle.
 

Majes

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Is that really that complicated? Perhaps, I am just more advanced. You determine what you want skill gem wise, and spec for it. Your build, say something like a dual EK totem, you'd go dual totem, physical damage and however much survivability you feel okay with.

There are a lot of combinations, but they certainly aren't some kind of advanced puzzle people try and make it out to be. The vast majority of builds are simply getting the unique nodes that are required and them min / maxing damage and survivability and which balance you find appropriate (glass cannon, tank, etc). It is more in depth than D3 (which is pretty much all on gear), but it certainly isn't some kind of puzzle.

Have you tried a Righteous Fire build? That build is literally a puzzle to figure out what works with what...
You're mostly correct. But there is depth if you want to min-max.
 

smackababy

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Have you tried a Righteous Fire build? That build is literally a puzzle to figure out what works with what...
You're mostly correct. But there is depth if you want to min-max.

I am sure there are a few builds that require a bunch of silliness to be viable, but for the most part it ain't that complicated.


With that said, it looks like they meganerfed crit damage for 1.3. Logged in to my crit tornado shot Ranger and was just sad. Down to only like 9k DPS, but I'm not fully geared or finished with the build (only 77).

I suppose my Arc Witch is also close to worthless. Perhaps, I'll go back to the non crit build. Pledge of Hands might not be great anymore. =(
 

Wardawg1001

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I am sure there are a few builds that require a bunch of silliness to be viable, but for the most part it ain't that complicated.


With that said, it looks like they meganerfed crit damage for 1.3. Logged in to my crit tornado shot Ranger and was just sad. Down to only like 9k DPS, but I'm not fully geared or finished with the build (only 77).

I suppose my Arc Witch is also close to worthless. Perhaps, I'll go back to the non crit build. Pledge of Hands might not be great anymore. =(

I think you're missing the point. You keep talking about the node map being a puzzle, or that its somehow very complicated. It isn't, and I don't think anyone who has spent a decent amount of time theory-crafting a build would even claim such a thing.

What the node map allows, in conjunction with the large number of skill gems and the various ways said gems interact with each other when linked with other gems, is a huge amount of depth and variety in character builds. Throw in the various types of survivability mechanisms (armor, evasion, energy shield, life leech, energy shield leech, and any combination of the above), which all work to varying degrees based on the skills you use and the way you build out the node map, and then throw in the numerous unique items in the game (many of which serve to open up completely new build possibilities that just would not work without them), and you have a very robust and complex character building system with a ton of depth and variety.
 

Nograts

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The problem I have with D3 is there are only 1-2 viable builds per class, and you HAVE to have the EXACT gear to make it the best. I had a wizard in seasons with a perfect furnace and ramaldins, firebird set etc. After experimenting with different skills (D3 doesn't have builds) you realize why everyone is a copy paste of each other... it's the only thing that works.

Yes there are cookie cutter builds in PoE, but other builds still are able to do all content, just maybe not as effective. I like the game in that it is much more close to Diablo 2 where Diablo 3 became this one fiasco after another wow meets d3 casual loot hunt. PoE can be pretty hardcore, but it's not bad once you get used to it. It's definitely not noob friendly.

Both games aren't perfect, but for 70+ dollars I expected a hell of a lot more out of d3 and ros. This ftp fit me way better.

If d3 + PoE had a baby though... mother of god.
 

smackababy

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Ugh... crafting is so painful. The amount of alt orbs it took to get a decent roll is just astonishingly high. =(

Oh well, 350+ pdps bow here I come!
 

Nograts

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Ugh... crafting is so painful. The amount of alt orbs it took to get a decent roll is just astonishingly high. =(

Oh well, 350+ pdps bow here I come!

I'm still new and managed to craft a 230 bow, it wrecks. Can only imagine those 450 ones.
 

smackababy

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I'm still new and managed to craft a 230 bow, it wrecks. Can only imagine those 450 ones.

Yeah, the bow I am wasting all my money on has 170 physical DPS with 0 quality and a single modifier. Just getting that 2nd one to be good is a killer. And, then I get to mess with making jump to rare item!
 

sushicide

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Got some lucky drops this week so I decided to craft a dagger, after stashes of currencies in.......


but it's just so much more exciting(painful) to make your own rather than buying, can't help it.
 
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