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highland145

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Confirmed: Joseph "Moe" Allen.

Allen faces 17 counts of attempted first-degree murder, The Times-Picayune reported. Orleans Parish Sheriff's Office records show he is a convicted felon with a rap sheet dating from 2002 that includes home invasion, carjacking, illegal carrying of weapon and possession of cocaine and heroin, the newspaper reported.
Joseph "Moe" Allen



...er...sorry, wrong killer thread.

Please ignore...that shouldn't take much.
 

Brian Stirling

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You do realize that "Tactical Gear" can be anything from a surplus helmet, a actual kevlar vest, or motorcycle/construction/baseball style knee and elbow pads along with camo and/or all black style clothing?? The term is as nebulous as the term "assault weapon".


Yeah well perhaps I should have said body armor or bullet proof vests. In the attacks that have taken place in Mumbai, Kenya and Paris the attackers did not have bullet proof vests as I understand it so this would be a first for these style attacks.


Brian
 

norseamd

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Yeah well perhaps I should have said body armor or bullet proof vests. In the attacks that have taken place in Mumbai, Kenya and Paris the attackers did not have bullet proof vests as I understand it so this would be a first for these style attacks.

The Charlie Hebdo attackers were not only well armed and equipped, but also well trained and composed.
 

Brian Stirling

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Why do you say it's looking like Muslims? I'm not ruling anything out right now, but frankly I'm perplexed because the target doesn't seem logical for either Muslims or right wing extremists. Doesn't seem personal either since there were 2 or more attackers.

Well the name Sayed Farouk is kind of suggestive in itself, and if this is a terror attack then it's no great stretch to suspect Muslim.

UPDATE: Apparently Sayed Farouk's father has confirmed that Sayed was a devout Muslim.


Brian
 
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The building did have security, and secured areas that require badge access, but the shooting took place in an event room fully open for guests.

Because badge access is something I can't open with a gun or anything...

I feel so secure everytime I swipe my employee badge!

No seriously, badges are so others don't casually walk in, grab some laptops/files with sensitive data and walk out. Anything other security is an illusion.
 

highland145

Lifer
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We already know people want to limit assault weapons from getting into the hands of common folk but if that becomes law over the vocal minority who buys off the Congress is another story.
dafuq are you posting? The limit is already ZERO.


ZERO asshat weapons for the general public.
 

her209

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Oct 11, 2000
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Geez ABC7 stop interviewing little kids. That interview was painful to watch and listen to.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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huh? Oh, you're trolling.
No. Really wasn't sure.

You've just had a Christian righty shooting and there's been Islamic righties shooting up Paris so "religion of peace" just seems to mean "nutter of random religion" at the moment.
 

Brian Stirling

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The Charlie Hebdo attackers were not only well armed and equipped, but also well trained and composed.

Yeah, looks like the Charlie Hebdo attackers were wearing vests of some type. The Paris attackers were wearing vests but they were explosive.


Brian
 
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There's a reason why some of us here presumed this from the get go, yet others enslaved to their sense of political correctness consistently don't understand what's going on around them and seem to have learning disorders.

Some of us do understand quite well:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/u...es-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html?_r=0
But I suppose Muslims could really step it up, or the other extremists could take a break, and shift the reality to your currently fallacious perception. Fingers crossed.
 

Blanky

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No. Really wasn't sure.

You've just had a Christian righty shooting and there's been Islamic righties shooting up Paris so "religion of peace" just seems to mean "nutter of random religion" at the moment.

So now that it turns out I'm right do you feel stupider than you look?
 

norseamd

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Good job terrorists. You might just win. You hit Europe right in the middle of a huge refugee crisis, and hit America right in the middle of presidential election campaign season. You know how to play the crowds. You could have went out with a whimper over the next 2 years of countries not really wanting to deal with you, but instead you decided to try to deal far more damage by using countries against themselves in exchange for probably getting a much shorter lifetime.
 
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