Actress says she had to change her Asian last name because of Hollywood racism

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jmagg

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The A list ultra liberal stars of hollywood should get the ball rolling and speak out on this racist attitude from above. I won't hold my breath.
 

kage69

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This is a hard one.

On one hand, I understand what she is referring to and disapprove of it as well. On the other hand, Michelle Yeoh is a Captain on Star Trek Discover. Did Hollywood racism give her a pass?
 
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OWR88

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If it's "the truth" how did Ming-Na Wen get a better part in the same show?
You mean because Ming Na Wen talks, dresses, and acts like a white woman? Wink wink

I think it is hilarious that suddenly Michelle Yeoh and Ming Na Wen ( try saying that a few times) has important roles, Chloe Wang's observation as an actress is now debunked. Must be some kind of affirmative action in the Hollywood industry right ? Another wink!!
 

GagHalfrunt

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You mean Ming Na Wen talks, dresses, and acts like a white woman? Wink wink

I mean MING-NA WEN who has managed to find plenty of roles with that name while Chloe, who also talks, dresses and acts white, said she was forced to change her NAME because there are no roles for women with Asian NAMES while ignoring the fact that MING-NA WEN who has a decidedly Asian NAME is a far more successful actress.

And yeah, Lucy Liu never gets any roles either. Maybe she'd have better luck as Lucy Smith.
 

OWR88

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Oh yay, we have Lucy Liu. Racism is over!!!

Wait? They casted who to play an Asian again?
 

JSt0rm

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If it's "the truth" how did Ming-Na Wen get a better part in the same show?

any marvel show is gonna have every race showcased. Also Im sure wen is playing an age appropriate roll.

The girl is right though. Casting directors get piles of names to wade through. If they see wang they will put her in 1 pile.
 

JSt0rm

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The A list ultra liberal stars of hollywood should get the ball rolling and speak out on this racist attitude from above. I won't hold my breath.

Do you know why you keep seeing the same stars? It has nothing to do with liberals and conservatives and everything to do with insurance.

Lets say you want to make a movie for 30 million. You can for the most part put people into it that you want. You will need to have some bigger names attached but they dont have to be ultra a list. Insurance on your 30 million will cost what it costs.

Now lets say you want to make a movie for 300 million. You cant get insurance on that film unless you have 1 of a few names attached to it OR the ip is so big you can use all fresh no names (star wars).

So take ghost in the shell for instance. What asian actress is a list enough to get the insurance companies to foot the bill if things go horribly wrong? There isnt one, unfortunately.

Like everything else in hollywood you have a chicken and egg conundrum.
 

Puffnstuff

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The more I look at this story the more I feel like someone was trying to get some publicity. There are plenty of Asian actors who seem to be doing quite well for themselves.
 

JSt0rm

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The more I look at this story the more I feel like someone was trying to get some publicity. There are plenty of Asian actors who seem to be doing quite well for themselves.

hey. If she becomes the aaa-list asian actress because of this more power to her.
 

GagHalfrunt

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any marvel show is gonna have every race showcased. Also Im sure wen is playing an age appropriate roll.

The girl is right though. Casting directors get piles of names to wade through. If they see wang they will put her in 1 pile.

What a bunch of idiocy. Was ER a Marvel series? How did Wen get cast a regular there from the discard pile? Was Vanished Marvel? Wen was a regular. Stargate? Wen was a regular. The Single Guy? Wen was a regular for the entire run.

How about Lucy Liu? She's got way more credits than Wen including 120 episodes of Elementary and 70-something Ally MacBeal. Pretty good for someone who got stuck in the wrong pile. Or maybe, just maybe, the reject pile doesn't exist, you're a moron and Chloe is a whiner who wants to blame anyone but herself for her lack of roles. An ethnic name is not holding back other actresses.
 

JSt0rm

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What a bunch of idiocy. Was ER a Marvel series? How did Wen get cast a regular there from the discard pile? Was Vanished Marvel? Wen was a regular. Stargate? Wen was a regular. The Single Guy? Wen was a regular for the entire run.

How about Lucy Liu? She's got way more credits than Wen including 120 episodes of Elementary and 70-something Ally MacBeal. Pretty good for someone who got stuck in the wrong pile. Or maybe, just maybe, the reject pile doesn't exist, you're a moron and Chloe is a whiner who wants to blame anyone but herself for her lack of roles. An ethnic name is not holding back other actresses.

actually im working on a marvel series right now. So I do know because im staring at the cast right now.

An ethnic name will hold you back. Look up what a casting director does and think about how many submissions they get for an open call. Also know that the race, sex and age of a character is in the script that the casting director is staring at.
 

shortylickens

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They cast multiple asian women because they are clearly trying to draw in the demographic of horny males who like asian women.
Which you think would be automatic anyways given the nature of a Marvel TV series.

I havent read the comic but would not be surprised if they had both been white or black women originally.
 

JSt0rm

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whats happening is we are starting to see a normalization of racial characters in film and tv. It will probably take a decade before we start to see some kind of triple A list none white.
 

DisarmedDespot

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actually im working on a marvel series right now. So I do know because im staring at the cast right now.

An ethnic name will hold you back. Look up what a casting director does and think about how many submissions they get for an open call. Also know that the race, sex and age of a character is in the script that the casting director is staring at.
Didn't Oscar Isaac drop his surname (Hernandez IIRC) because of something like that?
 

JSt0rm

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Didn't Oscar Isaac drop his surname (Hernandez IIRC) because of something like that?

I wouldnt know man. Im the worst at keeping track of the celebrity side of this industry. I had to look up who oscar issac was. Ex machina was my shit though.
 

urvile

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The A list ultra liberal stars of hollywood should get the ball rolling and speak out on this racist attitude from above. I won't hold my breath.

Never bite the hand that feeds. Even if it is blatantly hypocritical I am also looking forward to both liberals and conservatives boycotting all films for a) hollywood facilitating racism and b) hollywood stars being hypocrites unless they vote republican. At least conservatives can go back to reading high fantasy novels like the bible for entertainment.

Oh and self flagellation.

Also I think eddie redmayne should have his oscar win revoked after his performance in that terrible wachowski sisters flick with mila kunis....ah yes jupiter ascending or rising or some shit.
 

JSt0rm

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Never bite the hand that feeds. Even if it is blatantly hypocritical I am also looking forward to both liberals and conservatives boycotting all films for a) hollywood facilitating racism and b) hollywood stars being hypocrites unless they vote republican. At least conservatives can go back to reading high fantasy novels like the bible for entertainment.

Oh and self flagellation.

Also I think eddie redmayne should have his oscar win revoked after his performance in that terrible wachowski sisters flick with mila kunis....ah yes jupiter ascending or rising or some shit.

Cloud atlas was so good. It was too smart for most so they dumbed it down with jupiter ascending.
 

J.Wilkins

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/31/entertainment/chloe-bennet-hollywood-racist/index.html

Actress Chloe Bennet just went off on Hollywood's racist attitude.

Ms Bennet's real name is Chloe Wang and she change her name because Wang is associated with Asians. And Hollywood just doesn't want Wangs. Due to racism she felt a name like Wang would not taken seriously. And here I thought the liberals in Hollywood just loved Wangs.

Yeah, cause Hollywood isn't littered with asian actors with asian names at all.
 

JSt0rm

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Yeah, cause Hollywood isn't littered with asian actors with asian names at all.

the point is asian actors only get roles for asians while white people just get cast for rolls. it is changing though and we are seeing other ethnicities just getting cast for rolls.
 

J.Wilkins

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If I was born with a name like "Drumpf"...well you know the rest.

You'd change it to Anderson, run for president and be a decent human being?

Damn, man, I wish you had been born with the name Drumpf.
 
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