Actually got a ticket for this?!?!

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bobdole369

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What about the line of cars in front of you, which are going to get to the proper merge point before you? You're now counting on all of them to make way for you, when you aren't supposed to be there.

I agree that there's nothing unsafe about going through a red light when no one is there though.

I wasn't running into a line of vehicles blind spot. This is an 8 lane highway (4 each way) with sparse traffic. I crossed the gore, and then crossed again, now in the right center lane. It is the motorists responsibility to check blind spots when merging....
 

3chordcharlie

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I wasn't running into a line of vehicles blind spot. This is an 8 lane highway (4 each way) with sparse traffic. I crossed the gore, and then crossed again, now in the right center lane. It is the motorists responsibility to check blind spots when merging....

Alright boss, like I said, I'm with you on the endless red light, but aggressively merging early behind a line of cars on an on-ramp is a great way to cause problems. Glad all you managed was a ticket.
 

olds

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Mar 3, 2000
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In this great state (America's Wang) - I got a ticket two years back for... Wait for it:

Crossing the gore.

WTF??!! I pulled onto the FL Turnpike, behind roughly 15 cars and a dump truck moving at like 35 in the acceleration lane. I said "fuck this" and gunned it and crossed the "V-shaped area dividing the acceleration lane, and the main lanes of travel on a highway"

Florida Highway Patrol was in that pile of 15 cars and the officer was fucking pissed for some reason.

"Sir, do you see those lines painted back there? They are there for a reason! They are there to funnel traffic onto the highway in an orderly and safe manner! And you with your impatience are screwing it all up!"

I deserved that ticket, but plead no contest - begging the mercy of the court - got it down from $185 + 2 points to $50 and 0 points adj withheld.
Personally, I'd give people the death penalty for crossing the gore. Because that's what we get when someone crossing the gore hits us.
 

olds

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Mar 3, 2000
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Changing lanes is not the same thing as turning. And as was stated, at 65mph, 100 ft is ~1 second.
Is this your opinion or a know fact. Because Texas law says it is.

Sec. 545.104. SIGNALING TURNS; USE OF TURN SIGNALS. (a) An operator shall use the signal authorized by Section 545.106 to indicate an intention to turn, change lanes, or start from a parked position.

(b) An operator intending to turn a vehicle right or left shall signal continuously for not less than the last 100 feet of movement of the vehicle before the turn.

(c) An operator may not light the signals on only one side of the vehicle on a parked or disabled vehicle or use the signals as a courtesy or "do pass" signal to the operator of another vehicle approaching from the rear.
 

LTC8K6

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Is this your opinion or a know fact. Because Texas law says it is.

Sec. 545.104. SIGNALING TURNS; USE OF TURN SIGNALS. (a) An operator shall use the signal authorized by Section 545.106 to indicate an intention to turn, change lanes, or start from a parked position.

(b) An operator intending to turn a vehicle right or left shall signal continuously for not less than the last 100 feet of movement of the vehicle before the turn.

(c) An operator may not light the signals on only one side of the vehicle on a parked or disabled vehicle or use the signals as a courtesy or "do pass" signal to the operator of another vehicle approaching from the rear.

It tells you when you have to use your signals, but I read (b) as applying to a turn, not a lane change.

It makes no sense to say 100 feet regarding a lane change, imo.
 

DayLaPaul

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Is this your opinion or a know fact. Because Texas law says it is.

Sec. 545.104. SIGNALING TURNS; USE OF TURN SIGNALS. (a) An operator shall use the signal authorized by Section 545.106 to indicate an intention to turn, change lanes, or start from a parked position.

(b) An operator intending to turn a vehicle right or left shall signal continuously for not less than the last 100 feet of movement of the vehicle before the turn.

(c) An operator may not light the signals on only one side of the vehicle on a parked or disabled vehicle or use the signals as a courtesy or "do pass" signal to the operator of another vehicle approaching from the rear.

The way I read it, A, B and C are all separate statements.
 

alevasseur14

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On those, a signal can mean you're shifting one lane, or else "Watch the hell out, I'm going all the way to the other side, and screw you if you're in my way."

Hahahaha! I see this every single day on my drive to work. It's absolutely fascinating that a person will wait until the very last second before darting across FIVE lanes of traffic to make an exit.

I grew up in northern Minnesota in a county that to this day does not have a stop light. I've been here 8 years and I'm still terrified daily.
 

AMCRambler

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My favorite is people who change lanes as they go through an intersection. Anyone making a right on red is at risk to get hit by these tool boxes. They're looking over their shoulder to see if they can get over and the poor bastard who just looked and the right lane was clear so he starts to make a right on red is going to get t-boned. The worst thing about it is I've seen people do it right in front of cops and the copes don't even pull them over. There's a reason they paint solid lines as you come up to an intersection. You're supposed to stay in your lane.
 

CZroe

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Never seen a min speed so close to the max but I have witnessed police trying to fill quotas early due to taking off the holidays this month.
 

edro

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Why the hell would a cop give a ticket for that when he could wait literally 2sec. and find an actual speeder.
 

HumblePie

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Why the hell would a cop give a ticket for that when he could wait literally 2sec. and find an actual speeder.

The roads were wet enough that no one was speeding?

Although it wasn't raining at the time, it had rained hours previous and was drying up. Still we had some retards going super slow for no reason.
 

JoeBleed

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I'd just got talk to the DA in his/her office asap and see if they'll drop it with out going to court and wasting more time. I've gotten a couple of minor tickets dropped doing this.
 

rcpratt

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Is this your opinion or a know fact. Because Texas law says it is.

Sec. 545.104. SIGNALING TURNS; USE OF TURN SIGNALS. (a) An operator shall use the signal authorized by Section 545.106 to indicate an intention to turn, change lanes, or start from a parked position.

(b) An operator intending to turn a vehicle right or left shall signal continuously for not less than the last 100 feet of movement of the vehicle before the turn.

(c) An operator may not light the signals on only one side of the vehicle on a parked or disabled vehicle or use the signals as a courtesy or "do pass" signal to the operator of another vehicle approaching from the rear.
I'm no lawyer, but the way I read that is that you must use your signals prior to turning, changing lanes, or starting from park (what?)...but the 100 ft only applies to turning.
 

amdhunter

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It's Christmas time. Cops know you have money to spend and they are eager to take it from you to fund their job.

Deal with it.
 

CZroe

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Wire-tapping laws usually only apply where there is an expectation of privacy, which is why you can record without consent or knowledge in most states if there is a third party involved that is known to both speaking persons (they could just as easily be a legal witness, the same as the recording). We don't expect that when they pull us over because we know that they have dash cams. We need to start making traffic DVRs for our vehicles to document accidents and what-not and then, once they become common, they will have no expectation of privacy. I, myself, started wearing a Looxcie Bluetooth headset camera when I drive. I also got a helmet mount so that I can record cars violating my right of way when I ride the motorcycle (daily occurrence; people "don't see" motorcycles). It records to a looping buffer that actually exceeds the several-hour battery life and saves 30-second clips from that buffer when you push a button. If you need more, break out your smartphone, which also serves as a viewfinder, to browse through the buffer and save what you want permanently. You can grab anything from the buffer and upload it to YouTube right from your phone's 3G/4G Internet connection.

Looxcie does have a "Looxcie Live" smartphone app but it's in beta and it doesn't archive or transmit GPS location, speed, and other data. I would like to create a service that stores legally admissible "black box" data that was live-streamed from your smartphone.
 

airdata

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The cop acknowledged that my complete maneuver was done correctly, but the length of the initial blinker being on BEFORE I made my maneuver was not long enough.

Then yes... that's absolutely ridiculous. I'd be steaming.
 

lord_emperor

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Is this your opinion or a know fact. Because Texas law says it is.

Sec. 545.104. SIGNALING TURNS; USE OF TURN SIGNALS. (a) An operator shall use the signal authorized by Section 545.106 to indicate an intention to turn, change lanes, or start from a parked position.

(b) An operator intending to turn a vehicle right or left shall signal continuously for not less than the last 100 feet of movement of the vehicle before the turn.

(c) An operator may not light the signals on only one side of the vehicle on a parked or disabled vehicle or use the signals as a courtesy or "do pass" signal to the operator of another vehicle approaching from the rear.

I interpret this to mean you must signal 100' before turning. If it applies to changing lanes then it also applies to starting from a parked position. Our current understanding of physics doesn't allow you to move 100' before starting to move.
 

olds

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My favorite is people who change lanes as they go through an intersection. Anyone making a right on red is at risk to get hit by these tool boxes. They're looking over their shoulder to see if they can get over and the poor bastard who just looked and the right lane was clear so he starts to make a right on red is going to get t-boned. The worst thing about it is I've seen people do it right in front of cops and the copes don't even pull them over. There's a reason they paint solid lines as you come up to an intersection. You're supposed to stay in your lane.
Not true in California.
 

Wreckem

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Sep 23, 2006
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That is illegal in most states and he would be in jail now.

Incorrect. It is legal in the majority of states. In fact it has only been upheld in one state, Illinois. And shot down in others. And it only ever applied to the handful of two party consent states.
 
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roguerower

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The roads were wet enough that no one was speeding?

Although it wasn't raining at the time, it had rained hours previous and was drying up. Still we had some retards going super slow because they're Texans for no reason.

FTFY
 

LurkerPrime

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The best course of action to get any revenge at all against this cop is to call internal affairs. Call them and report that when he pulled you over, you smelled alcohol on his breath. Getting investigated by internal affairs will be as much hassle for the cop as you having to go to court to get the ticket thrown out.
 

child of wonder

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I interpret this to mean you must signal 100' before turning. If it applies to changing lanes then it also applies to starting from a parked position. Our current understanding of physics doesn't allow you to move 100' before starting to move.

The earth's orbital speed is 18.5 miles/second. So one would need to have their blinker on for .001 seconds prior to moving from a parked position to satisfy the law.

The law doesn't specify in what direction your vehicle has to be moving, just that it move 100 feet.
 
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