Hmm, I always thought the M45 was a compact sedan since the backseat was so small..but I guess it's closer to a mid-sized sedan whereas the RL is a fullsized sedan.
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: toant103
i will NEVER SPEND that much on the RL. Get my money worth with a M45
Completely different cars there..
Not they aren't. Same class, same price, same size, similar power outputs.
It just so happens that the M45 does it the right way...V8 + RWD
Originally posted by: toant103
i will NEVER SPEND that much on the RL. Get my money worth with a M45
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
There's nothing wrong with not being able to have the same cachet as MB or BMW. I think Acura fits a good and profitable niche of semi-luxury cars. Someone has to fill that void and if they can make interesting cars that fit or almost fit the bill, more power to them.
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
There's nothing wrong with not being able to have the same cachet as MB or BMW. I think Acura fits a good and profitable niche of semi-luxury cars. Someone has to fill that void and if they can make interesting cars that fit or almost fit the bill, more power to them.
what he said. acura makes nice semi-affordable luxury cars. i think they are at a good place where they are. and trust me...they have brand recognition
Originally posted by: TheAudit
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
There's nothing wrong with not being able to have the same cachet as MB or BMW. I think Acura fits a good and profitable niche of semi-luxury cars. Someone has to fill that void and if they can make interesting cars that fit or almost fit the bill, more power to them.
what he said. acura makes nice semi-affordable luxury cars. i think they are at a good place where they are. and trust me...they have brand recognition
I agree.
Acura is not BMW, Mercedes-Benz or even Lexus, but it doesn't have to be either.
I love the TL, the TSX and I drive an RSX. I even like the MDX. They make some fine offerings. The RL has never sold and this iteration probably won't do much better at that price point either.
Originally posted by: ElFenix
can anyone tell me how this AWD system is any different than that used on the high end EVO?
Originally posted by: OS
The RL doesn't feel like a Honda. I have an 03 accord and poked around at an 05 RL. It's much more solid feeling like when the doors close and stuff.
As for the cries about no V8, the RL makes as much HP as the MB E500 and costs thousands less.
That being said, Honda/Acura would have been better off building just a RWD RL that costs 5K less. But the platform doesn't allow for that since it has a traversely mounted engine.
haha. all hail the m45. big brother to the scion tC.Originally posted by: luvya
Originally posted by: toant103
i will NEVER SPEND that much on the RL. Get my money worth with a M45
Just when I thought nobody could do worse, you did.
Originally posted by: ElFenix
can anyone tell me how this AWD system is any different than that used on the high end EVO?
Originally posted by: psteng19
Originally posted by: OS
The RL doesn't feel like a Honda. I have an 03 accord and poked around at an 05 RL. It's much more solid feeling like when the doors close and stuff.
As for the cries about no V8, the RL makes as much HP as the MB E500 and costs thousands less.
That being said, Honda/Acura would have been better off building just a RWD RL that costs 5K less. But the platform doesn't allow for that since it has a traversely mounted engine.
If you know the difference between transverse and longitudal, you should know the difference between HP coming from a V8 and a V6.
I think the RL will sell well.
And I agree that does nothing for Acura's brand image.
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: ElFenix
can anyone tell me how this AWD system is any different than that used on the high end EVO?
I believe the RL can also spin up to 100% of the power to the left or right wheels as opposed to just front and back like regular AWD systems.
Its very similar to ATTS on the Prelude SH with the exception that the Prelude was FWD only.
Originally posted by: OS
did I mention already the RL costs like 10K less than the E500?
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: ElFenix
can anyone tell me how this AWD system is any different than that used on the high end EVO?
I believe the RL can also spin up to 100% of the power to the left or right wheels as opposed to just front and back like regular AWD systems.
Its very similar to ATTS on the Prelude SH with the exception that the Prelude was FWD only.
on top gear they said that the special edition evo (one that probably isn't over here) they were driving could put all of its torque through one wheel.
Originally posted by: Colt45
Not german
No V8
No logo
I dont think Honda will ever be in the same class as Benz/Audi/BMW
Originally posted by: ElFenix
being cheaper than every other luxury marque isn't going to help their image eitherOriginally posted by: OS
did I mention already the RL costs like 10K less than the E500?
Originally posted by: psteng19
Originally posted by: ElFenix
on top gear they said that the special edition evo (one that probably isn't over here) they were driving could put all of its torque through one wheel.
That's incorrect.
It's 70:30 (front:rear) or vice versa, and then 100% of that 70% to left/right so at most it could put 70% of power to one wheel if I understand their specs correctly.