Discussion Ada/'Lovelace'? Next gen Nvidia gaming architecture speculation

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gdansk

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There is a really simple solution to keeping the wattage low...just don't buy it.
Plenty of people will always buy the fastest, all other concerns be damned. Well, anyway, it is not a good trend. Soon people will be justified hating on gamers like they do miners.
 
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moonbogg

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Was thinking that 3 ultra expensive SKUs at once is too many. The 4090 AIBs are probally going to be over 2 grand as it is.

Anyone spending over 2k on a GPU will just as easily spend 5k on that same GPU, so why don't they just charge 5k for it? Seriously, I think 5k would work just as well for anyone already spending like 2k+. They can also release a Titan with like 2GB more ram and charge 8k and that would also be fine. If you got 3 million in the bank and like 300k coming in every month, do you care if it's 2k, 5k, or 8k? Lol, nah.
 
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pakotlar

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Anyone spending over 2k on a GPU will just as easily spend 5k on that same GPU, so why don't they just charge 5k for it? Seriously, I think 5k would work just as well for anyone already spending like 2k+. They can also release a Titan with like 2GB more ram and charge 8k and that would also be fine. If you got 3 million in the bank and like 300k coming in every month, do you care if it's 2k, 5k, or 8k? Lol, nah.
Not true. I would spend $2K, but def not 5. Maybe 2.5-3 for the 48GB version, at most.
 
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coercitiv

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Anyone spending over 2k on a GPU will just as easily spend 5k on that same GPU, so why don't they just charge 5k for it? Seriously, I think 5k would work just as well for anyone already spending like 2k+.
9K from the cloaked person in the back, do I hear 10K? 10K for this multiverse travel device?

10K from the princess in white! 11K from the boy with a wand! 12K from Mr. Bozo in the front row!!! Going once, going twice...
 

moonbogg

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Not true. I would spend $2K, but def not 5. Maybe 2.5-3 for the 48GB version, at most.

Your willing to spend 3K, but you're telling me if Nvidia released a hypothetical 48GB monster miracle card that performs a literal 3X the 3090Ti, you wouldn't stretch a little more for it? I know it won't be that fast, but if it was, would you buy it for 5K?
 

Borealis7

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the conspiracy: nVidia is paid by the PSU makers to make hungrier GPUs so they could sell more powerful units.
 
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Stuka87

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the conspiracy: nVidia is paid by the PSU makers to make hungrier GPUs so they could sell more powerful units.

The number of RMA'ed PSUs that had zero issues have probably made a fair number of them a bit salty. Nobody wants a power hungry card (or anything really), especially when it has transients that happen faster than the PSUs switcher can react to.
 

Borealis7

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The number of RMA'ed PSUs that had zero issues have probably made a fair number of them a bit salty. Nobody wants a power hungry card (or anything really), especially when it has transients that happen faster than the PSUs switcher can react to.
we have the same PSU, you and I, neither of us is getting a 4090. i have it for roughly 6 years now, i'm careful not to stress it too much.
 

CakeMonster

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TBH, lots of drama on social media about that latest leak. The 4090 rumors have been gradually adjusted downwards over months and now seem to be semi credible around 450W (still too much IMO especially with increased spikes). But to pretend that an 800W rumor is a likely gaming card strikes me as a bit too credulous. I hope we get solid information soon because I feel there's too much outrage and too little constructive discussion.
 
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gdansk

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TBH, lots of drama on social media about that latest leak. The 4090 rumors have been gradually adjusted downwards over months and now seem to be semi credible around 450W (still too much IMO especially with increased spikes). But to pretend that an 800W rumor is a likely gaming card strikes me as a bit too credulous. I hope we get solid information soon because I feel there's too much outrage and too little constructive discussion.
The only constructive thing to say is "it's probably not true" or "it's not a gamer card". But, if it exists, you know they'll buy it anyway unless it's a blower with an absurd MSRP.
 

pakotlar

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Your willing to spend 3K, but you're telling me if Nvidia released a hypothetical 48GB monster miracle card that performs a literal 3X the 3090Ti, you wouldn't stretch a little more for it? I know it won't be that fast, but if it was, would you buy it for 5K?

Hm, if it was 3x 3090 TI in achieved performance I would have to think about it. It would depend on how expensive 3 3090’s would be (Ti isnt so interesting because performance uplift is tiny and TDP goes up more than the uplift), and how difficult that solution would be to cool. If the total cost of 3 3090’s was say half the cost of the 5K uber4090 i wouldnt go for the uber4090. If it was a difference of say 1K maybe?

For 2x perf uplift I’d pay up to 2K, for 48GB ram maybe another 500-1000, though that is harder to justify because 24GB is already quite good.
 

jpiniero

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TBH, lots of drama on social media about that latest leak. The 4090 rumors have been gradually adjusted downwards over months and now seem to be semi credible around 450W (still too much IMO especially with increased spikes). But to pretend that an 800W rumor is a likely gaming card strikes me as a bit too credulous. I hope we get solid information soon because I feel there's too much outrage and too little constructive discussion.

There will definately be 600+ W 4090 AIB. The 450 W is probably what the FE is.
 
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pakotlar

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So you say but there is the 3090 and 3090 Ti... they're not gaming cards? Awful lot of gamers have them

They’re replacement Titans. Prosumer cards. Most people buying these are using them for Cuda (or mining).
 

Saylick

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Hm, if it was 3x 3090 TI in achieved performance I would have to think about it. It would depend on how expensive 3 3090’s would be (Ti isnt so interesting because performance uplift is tiny and TDP goes up more than the uplift), and how difficult that solution would be to cool. If the total cost of 3 3090’s was say half the cost of the 5K uber4090 i wouldnt go for the uber4090. If it was a difference of say 1K maybe?

For 2x perf uplift I’d pay up to 2K, for 48GB ram maybe another 500-1000, though that is harder to justify because 24GB is already quite good.
Even if it were 3x the performance, price, and power output as the 3090 Ti, the fact that you can't actually achieve 3x 3090 Ti performance even if you owned three 3090 Ti (i.e. SLI is dead, and even if it were alive you don't get perfect scaling) means that it is in a performance class of its own, and so someone who demands the most performance at any cost would actually pay $5000 for a RTX 4090 Uber. Heck, they'd likely be willing to pay 4 or even 5x the price of the RTX 3090 Ti.
 
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