Cards like the RX 6600 need sub-$200 prices such as $180, the current price of $250 is too high. Personally, if I see cards like the RX 6700 XT dropping from $420 to $300, I would jump on that.Jeez, whenever I look at the 4000 announcement/prices, I get very turned off about building a new rig around Christmas. I know AMD will probably do better with RDNA3 launch but the bar is so low right now, they can just ask $800 for a RX 7800 and most think would think that's a much better deal (the main dig is still about nVidia, but hey've set the stage for AMD to screw us over too).
One would think Intel Alchemist might be the new RX 400/500 budget buyer's golden ticket but meh, not at all. Stuff like "cheap" RX 6600/6650s are already here, which are already better value but the mood is still depressed as hell.
I don't think I'll ever touch nVidia GPUs (for my own builds at least) ever again. I'm content with having Intel as my second option from now on, just hope they don't shut down the division.
And I was never a big fan of Intel to begin with.
Thanks nVidia.
Cards like the RX 6600 need sub-$200 prices such as $180, the current price of $250 is too high. Personally, if I see cards like the RX 6700 XT dropping from $420 to $300, I would jump on that.
Let's not ignore Alchemist GPUs completely. They could be quite good mid-range cards if the drivers get there in a few months. I am rooting for Intel to stick it to the other 2 companies.
and they are now selling a 4x8 pin to 16pin for 4090. Curious what the 4 sense pins will do on these since the PSU is not ATX 3.0 ?FYI Cablemod sells 12VHPWR cables for various PSU brands. I ordered one for my Seasonic Prime 1000W unit that I bought a couple years ago. Takes 3x 8-pin connectors on the back of the PSU for a single 12 pin GPU-side connector. They are supposed to be a high quality cable maker.
Seasonic will also be providing cables for free but the PSU has to be purchased within the last year.
and they are now selling a 4x8 pin to 16pin for 4090. Curious what the 4 sense pins will do on these since the PSU is not ATX 3.0 ?
I read somewhere that Nvidia said the new 4000 series adapter has a chip in it that tells the card how many 8 pins are connected and sets limit based on thatProbably nothing. It doesn’t seem like nvidia is making the sense capability a requirement this generation since they’re including adapters of their own.
I went with the 3x adapter version which should power a stock 4090 (150W each for 450W total … no interest in overclocking beyond that level of power)
I read somewhere that Nvidia said the new 4000 series adapter has a chip in it that tells the card how many 8 pins are connected and sets limit based on that
Cards like the RX 6600 need sub-$200 prices such as $180, the current price of $250 is too high. Personally, if I see cards like the RX 6700 XT dropping from $420 to $300, I would jump on that.
Let's not ignore Alchemist GPUs completely. They could be quite good mid-range cards if the drivers get there in a few months. I am rooting for Intel to stick it to the other 2 companies.
Probably nothing. It doesn’t seem like nvidia is making the sense capability a requirement this generation since they’re including adapters of their own.
I went with the 3x adapter version which should power a stock 4090 (150W each for 450W total … no interest in overclocking beyond that level of power). I think there’s some chatter that the card was designed to suck up 600W initially so may be able to use it if available or directed.
This does pretty much shows why 4080 12GB should be 4070 at best. 3090 probably performs like that too.
YesSorta off topic but do FE cards usually have similar options for limiting TGP in MSI Afterburner etc? I know implementation of that is card dependent.
My ASUS 3070 for instance will let me go down to 41% power limit. My old Gigabyte 1070 I think stops at 50something. Never had an FE card
4090 should be called 4080Can we start calling it the Fauxty Eighty then?
4090 should be called 4080
4090 Ti (Full Fat) should be 4090
I miss the old days when 100/102 biggest chip was 80 class
3080: 249 fps
4080 12gb: 296 fps
Why is $250 too high? Have you checked the prices of the 3050? 3060?
yes old old old days (when Anandtech did GPU reviews). that's what made 3080 @ msrp so solid and surprising since we hadn't seen big die on x80 since Kepler refreshYou would have to go way way back to before Kepler for that to be the case. As from Kepler to Pascal, Titan was the full card. The 3090 just replaced the Titan, so really just a naming change.
You get an extra 2GB of RAM as well, so it's totally worth it. You're definitely going to want to dump that POS 3080 now while you can still get $500 for it and save up for the 4080.Wow, a whole 16% uplift in fps for $900.
Probably nothing. It doesn’t seem like nvidia is making the sense capability a requirement this generation since they’re including adapters of their own.
I went with the 3x adapter version which should power a stock 4090 (150W each for 450W total … no interest in overclocking beyond that level of power). I think there’s some chatter that the card was designed to suck up 600W initially so may be able to use it if available or directed.
Are there any power supplies yet that support the connector natively? I was thinking of getting a new one but would like to have that included in it.
The FE isn't terribad, but the AIB partner cards are freaking beasts.Yeah, Ars posted photos of it next to a lot of different things. Its nuts how big it is.
The FE isn't terribad, but the AIB partner cards are freaking beasts.