Discussion Ada/'Lovelace'? Next gen Nvidia gaming architecture speculation

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Tup3x

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4070 should be a cutdown version and 4070Ti the full Ada104.
I expect only the name and price to change.
I think there would still be too large gap between 4070 Ti and 4080. In my opinion it would make sense to use cut down AD103 for 4070 Ti. Cut down AD102 for 4080 Ti (and 20 GB of vram).
 

TESKATLIPOKA

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I think there would still be too large gap between 4070 Ti and 4080. In my opinion it would make sense to use cut down AD103 for 4070 Ti. Cut down AD102 for 4080 Ti (and 20 GB of vram).
The difference in specs is actually smaller than the previous gen.
4080 12GB 4070Ti vs 4080 16GB is 60SM vs 76SM
and
3070Ti vs 3080 10GB(12GB) is 48SM vs 68(70)SM
 

Stuka87

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Asus has released a new BIOS for the 4090, it doesn't say what it does though.

Of the three 4090's they list on their support site, only one of them has this new BIOS listed. So whatever it is, its very specific to that one model. Not even sure what the difference is between the 024G and the 24G.

TUF-RTX4090-O24G-GAMING - New BIOS
TUF-RTX4090-24G-GAMING - NO New BIOS
ROG-STRIX-RTX4090-O24G-GAMING - NO New BIOS
 

Heartbreaker

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4070 Ti was my expectation. My other was only $100 less expensive. Hope I'm wrong on that one. Should be at least $200 less, but NVidia...
 

MrTeal

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4070 Ti was my expectation. My other was only $100 less expensive. Hope I'm wrong on that one. Should be at least $200 less, but NVidia...
The reviewer guide will include all the proper RTX games to test I'm sure, and with DLSS 3.0 on for everything. It'll be a value at $800.

Don't mind those low class review sites testing it with ancient rasterized games. The 7900XTX being 40% faster than it is only because they're testing it wrong.
 

Mopetar

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I'm not sure what they could actually charge given AMD is at $900/$1000 with up to twice as much VRAM as a 4070 Ti, but even though AMD doesn't have nearly as strong RT results, I think NVidia will have a hard time if they're selling it for more than $800, and even that makes it a tough sell.
 

jpiniero

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I'm not sure what they could actually charge given AMD is at $900/$1000 with up to twice as much VRAM as a 4070 Ti, but even though AMD doesn't have nearly as strong RT results, I think NVidia will have a hard time if they're selling it for more than $800, and even that makes it a tough sell.

As Ampere showed, having less VRAM capacity is something that nVidia feels like is something they can get away with.
 

CakeMonster

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Of the three 4090's they list on their support site, only one of them has this new BIOS listed. So whatever it is, its very specific to that one model. Not even sure what the difference is between the 024G and the 24G.

TUF-RTX4090-O24G-GAMING - New BIOS
TUF-RTX4090-24G-GAMING - NO New BIOS
ROG-STRIX-RTX4090-O24G-GAMING - NO New BIOS

FWIW, looks to be available for all the cards now. I flashed mine, now it has version 95.02.18.80.95. Still no description.
 
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A///

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4070 ti is being bloody generous. blackwell thread when?

As Ampere showed, having less VRAM capacity is something that nVidia feels like is something they can get away with.
ampere's a wildchild. it came right when the crypto boom was in full swing and the world under the peril of a mysterious but well documented disease causing a pandemic that's still going on minus the heft of it all, and no crypto boom. if jensen wants to fund his spatula collection and his cow hide leather masculine manly leotard then he'd better use some common sense.
 
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if jensen wants to fund his spatula collection and his cow hide leather masculine manly leotard then he'd better use some common sense.
I think I've said it before. He resembles Kim Jong-un. There's not a single rational cell in his body.
 
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Heartbreaker

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4070 ti is being bloody generous. blackwell thread when?


ampere's a wildchild. it came right when the crypto boom was in full swing and the world under the peril of a mysterious but well documented disease causing a pandemic that's still going on minus the heft of it all, and no crypto boom. if jensen wants to fund his spatula collection and his cow hide leather masculine manly leotard then he'd better use some common sense.

Crypto imploded and people are still paying significantly more for an RTX 3050 than an RX 6600.
 

Mopetar

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As Ampere showed, having less VRAM capacity is something that nVidia feels like is something they can get away with.

When it's 12 GB up against 16 GB it likely doesn't have the same impact mentally as 12 GB up against 24 GB.

Crypto imploded and people are still paying significantly more for an RTX 3050 than an RX 6600.

Are people really buying it at those prices or are they just sitting in store shelves because retailers don't want to eat the cost of discounting them if they can get away with it?

The problem with people using things like a Steam survey (beyond the general issues of using it) is that it doesn't tell us anything about how people acquired their card. People buying former mining GPUs doesn't look any different than people buying new GPUs from the store to us.
 

utahraptor

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Have any of you that wanted to obtain a 4090 been able to do so at MSRP? What strategy did you use? I really want a FE edition, but I have my doubts. I don't want to give a random person $600 for the privilege. I am willing to wait until February at least, but I am not convinced there will be any supply by then.
 
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I am willing to wait until February at least, but I am not convinced there will be any supply by then.
The more you care, the more you may get desperate and end up paying over MSRP. Be patient, forget about it and it will be there for the taking when you are meant to have it.
 

Aapje

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In France/Belgium the FE drops are no longer selling out instantly, so over there the market seems to be slowly saturating and you can just buy them if you track the drops. Germany/Netherlands is very quick still.

Don't know about the US. I do foresee that the 4080 launch can drive up 4090 demand, as people see how bad value the 4080 is.

BTW, Utah dude, waiting for the 7800X3D? Because your CPU is going to turn that 4090 into a 4060.
 
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