Discussion Ada/'Lovelace'? Next gen Nvidia gaming architecture speculation

[Saylick]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Founders Edition has been pictured - VideoCardz.com

Next-gen flagship RTX 40 GPU leaks ahead of official announcement In case there was any doubt, here’s Jensen with RTX 4090. NVIDIA is set to announce its RTX 4090 flagship Ada GPU in just a couple of hours. Many of you were wondering how NVIDIA’s own design might look, and we can finally tell...

videocardz.com

Leaks were spot on regarding how it looks... Pretty much a beefed up Ampere cooler with a larger fan.

Any guesses as to price? 😛

 

[Harry_Wild]

Top of the lines card need double the wattage to run! Looking at 1,000-2,200 watt PSU.

 

[scannall]

PC hardware is a cheap hobby compared to other hobbies. Get into high end audio and the sky is the limit.

Or getting in the air for a bit in my Cessna....

 

[Aapje]

Or getting in the air for a bit in my Cessna....

That's why flight sims have been popular for so long, even when they looked like this:

 

[Tigerick]

The NVIDIA GeForce Project Beyond and GTC Fall 2022 Keynote Live Blog (Starts at 8am PT/15:00 UTC)

www.anandtech.com

2 more hours to go

 

[Panino Manino]

90 TERAFLOPS GPU, reordering leading up to 25% efficiency, inference to RT rays for better results with less rays, more powerful DLSS.

Remembers me that classic line "the competition can't compete". Stop it Jensen!

 

[Saylick]

DLSS 3.0 looks like it's doing inter-frame interpolation based on motion vectors and a neural network to increase frame rates. Note, this is on TOP of what DLSS 2.0 does, which is use a lower resolution actual rendered frames to generate new pixels / a higher resolution frame. DLSS 3.0 takes those outputted frames and generates new ones in between. Nvidia demo'd Cyberpunk 2077 with DLSS 3.0 showing almost 4x FPS increase, but it was in a scene where the user drove straight ahead (i.e. the motion vector is quite simple).

Here's the workflow. DLSS3.0 is the Optical Flow Accelerator / Optical Multi Frame Generation portion. It takes rendered frames from DLSS 2.0 and interpolates between them using motion vectors. So technically, the quality of these new frames in theory cannot be any better than the originally rendered frames, but due to interpolation you get more frames per second in general. It probably does a better job than simple linear interpolators because it uses motion vectors to predict with better accuracy what the interpolated frame should look like and thus mitigate ghosting, etc.

 

[Saylick]

$1599 for RTX 4090... Inflation is real.





Did I just see the RTX 4080 16 GB start at $1199? With the "cheapest" RTX "4080" 12 GB version be $899?

 

[tamz_msc]

They need to clear existing inventory, but damn, I want the Morrowind RTX mod.

 

[Tup3x]

Yeah... that naming scheme makes no sense.

 

[Hitman928]

4090 with 450W TBP confirmed?

 

[Saylick]

4090 with 450W TBP confirmed?

More or less:

 

[JujuFish]

My goodness, that's expensive.

 

[Hitman928]

More or less:
View attachment 67821

Yeah, but then he mentioned Ada being overclocked in their labs to over 3 GHz at the same time so I was kind of hoping that was OC'd power. That's my hope, but most likely 450W is just TBP.

 

[DiogoDX]

Up 2X in raster as Jensen said. Maybe RDNA3 (rumored 2.5X 6900XT in raster) will really be faster in raster but I think they will get smoked on RT.

 

[Saylick]

Looks like Nvidia marketing could not justify selling an RTX 4070 class card at >$700 so they just called it an RTX 4080 12GB and now people will but it at $899...

 

[Hitman928]

The 4080 for $899 is presumably the one with just 12 GB VRAM.

 

[Saylick]

Here's the official clocks:

 

[Karnak]

Prices are disgusting. Especially the 4080 12 GiB which is a renamed xx70 SKU. F you Jensen, like really.

 

[Panino Manino]

Here's the official clocks:
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Jensen said that overclocked cards will reach 3GHz.

They need to clear existing inventory, but damn, I want the Morrowind RTX mod.

You don't need a new card to get and play that mod.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Nvidia doing predatory -redacted-, cue the surprise. I hope AMD crushes them.

Profanity is not allowed in the tech forums.

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[jpiniero]

That's higher than what even I expected. Except for the 4090, which I am guessing is a fake price.

 

[Tup3x]

I guess >2100 € for 4090 and 1500 €ish for 16GB 4080 here in Finland.

EDIT:
From NVIDIA...
GeForce RTX 4090: >=1999,00 €
RTX 4080 (16GB): >=1509,00 €
RTX 4080 (12GB): >=1129,00 €

 

[tamz_msc]

You don't need a new card to get and play that mod.

Sure, I was just admiring NVIDIA's commitment in re-imagining existing games with the tools they've developed. Portal RTX looks dope too.

 

[Saylick]

Jensen said that overclocked cards will reach 3GHz.

Advertised boost clocks at 2.5 GHz is probably at the rated 450W TDP. 3 GHz for the 4090 will likely use 600W.