Adobe cracks down on piracy

[AdamDuritz99]

Originally posted by: MacBaine
OH F.....

I second that!

peace
sean

 

[Killbat]

I somehow doubt that the FBI will waste a whole lot of time going after end users; that's like spraying water on flames, instead of the fuel.
That is bold of Adobe, however. If Microsoft secretly took action that direct, people would be jumping all over them.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: aves2k Zone Alarm doesn't allow Photoshop to access the Internet.

yeah or any other decent firewall like tiny personal fw.

Small problem... Zone Alarm doesn't even come close to being "decent" nik

what's wrong with it?

Haha - besides the fact that if it wigs out on you, and you uninstall it, you have to find and remove certain registry keys in order for the program to stop refusing an internet connection -whether it's installed or not? Nothing.

nik

that's really not that big of a deal, imo. as far as firewall capabilities go, i think it's pretty good.

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: aves2k

Originally posted by: dighn
who's this clarice?

A character from Silence of the Lambs.

oh ic. thanks

 

[Aves]

Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
Can anyone confirm this? That would be interesting if Adobe managed to do that. But then again I seriously doubt they could really do anything with that list -
1) What about legitimate users who got their keys duped?
2) Invasion of privacy? Someone will probably use this defense, regardless of whether or not Adobe's allowed to do this. Aren't there rules aganst programs accessing the internet without your authorization?

I would imagine that if there's any truth to this the privacy groups will go apesh!t and ream Adobe for it.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: aves2k

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt Haha - besides the fact that if it wigs out on you, and you uninstall it, you have to find and remove certain registry keys in order for the program to stop refusing an internet connection -whether it's installed or not? Nothing. nik

I've never had that problem so I'll keep using it for the time being.

As you wish, but it's like playing Russian Roulette. I get atleast one Zone Alarm F-up per day at work. That thing is HORRID. And it's not "if" but a matter of "when"

nik

 

[FrontlineWarrior]

how could the crackers have missed it?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: aves2k Zone Alarm doesn't allow Photoshop to access the Internet.

yeah or any other decent firewall like tiny personal fw.

Small problem... Zone Alarm doesn't even come close to being "decent" nik

what's wrong with it?

Haha - besides the fact that if it wigs out on you, and you uninstall it, you have to find and remove certain registry keys in order for the program to stop refusing an internet connection -whether it's installed or not? Nothing. nik

that's really not that big of a deal, imo. as far as firewall capabilities go, i think it's pretty good.

That's exactly what you'll think when you can't get an internet connection at all, no matter what you do. Then you'll have to uninstall ZA and call call Zone Alarm's tech support (and pay if you don't already have ZA Pro) and get them to tell you what registry keys where need to be removed in order for ZA to stop screwing up.

...and then I get to tell you "I told you so"

nik

 

[dighn]

anyway it is possible for it to bypass firewalls. there are techniques that allow you to inject a dll into another process and do things as that process.

 

[Adul]

isnt this considered a privacy issue? I havea legit copy of PS6

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: FrontlineWarrior
how could the crackers have missed it?

these things aren't readily visible. it would be impossible to go through all the assembly code and determine backdoors. the only practical way would be to detect the communication to konw its presence.

 

[MacBaine]

Good thing I whiped my HD clean a few days ago

 

[luv2chill]

This story has B.S. written all over it. Look at the grammar of the "story". Remember even before WinXP hit the shelves the (legit) newsmedia was all over the privacy implications of product activation (which doesn't log your IP address, according to MS. So all of a sudden, Adobe says that products released weeks and months ago have a secret component that harvests IPs? Yeah, OK.

Not to mention the scare tactics of releasing the IPs to the FBI. What's the FBI going to do? Prosecute thousands and thousands of peons who have a few pirated programs? The costs on such an operation would be astronomical.

Relax.

l2c

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: aves2k Zone Alarm doesn't allow Photoshop to access the Internet.

yeah or any other decent firewall like tiny personal fw.

Small problem... Zone Alarm doesn't even come close to being "decent" nik

what's wrong with it?

Haha - besides the fact that if it wigs out on you, and you uninstall it, you have to find and remove certain registry keys in order for the program to stop refusing an internet connection -whether it's installed or not? Nothing. nik

that's really not that big of a deal, imo. as far as firewall capabilities go, i think it's pretty good.

That's exactly what you'll think when you can't get an internet connection at all, no matter what you do. Then you'll have to uninstall ZA and call call Zone Alarm's tech support (and pay if you don't already have ZA Pro) and get them to tell you what registry keys where need to be removed in order for ZA to stop screwing up.

...and then I get to tell you "I told you so"

nik

no, not really, because i was already aware of that. i've had it happen to me, and it's not really that big of a deal. really, when you say a product isn't close to decent, you imply that it doesn't do what it purports to do. zone alarm works just fine as a firewall. so it's uninstall procedure is a little lacking, big deal.

 

[Calundronius]

Trying to take 25,000 people to court would be a logistics nightmare, just way too much of a hassle. I doubt those of us who have pirated copies of photoshop have anything to worry about. They're more interested in going after distributors, anyway.

 

[gopunk]

this doesn't make sense actually, because adobe sells site licenses. unless those serial numbers aren't being kept track of...

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: aves2k Zone Alarm doesn't allow Photoshop to access the Internet.

yeah or any other decent firewall like tiny personal fw.

Small problem... Zone Alarm doesn't even come close to being "decent" nik

what's wrong with it?

Haha - besides the fact that if it wigs out on you, and you uninstall it, you have to find and remove certain registry keys in order for the program to stop refusing an internet connection -whether it's installed or not? Nothing. nik

that's really not that big of a deal, imo. as far as firewall capabilities go, i think it's pretty good.

That's exactly what you'll think when you can't get an internet connection at all, no matter what you do. Then you'll have to uninstall ZA and call call Zone Alarm's tech support (and pay if you don't already have ZA Pro) and get them to tell you what registry keys where need to be removed in order for ZA to stop screwing up. ...and then I get to tell you "I told you so" nik

no, not really, because i was already aware of that. i've had it happen to me, and it's not really that big of a deal. really, when you say a product isn't close to decent, you imply that it doesn't do what it purports to do. zone alarm works just fine as a firewall. so it's uninstall procedure is a little lacking, big deal.

lol - I think you should go back and read what you wrote. You, sir, are a moron.

nik

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: dighn

Originally posted by: aves2k Zone Alarm doesn't allow Photoshop to access the Internet.

yeah or any other decent firewall like tiny personal fw.

Small problem... Zone Alarm doesn't even come close to being "decent" nik

what's wrong with it?

Haha - besides the fact that if it wigs out on you, and you uninstall it, you have to find and remove certain registry keys in order for the program to stop refusing an internet connection -whether it's installed or not? Nothing. nik

that's really not that big of a deal, imo. as far as firewall capabilities go, i think it's pretty good.

That's exactly what you'll think when you can't get an internet connection at all, no matter what you do. Then you'll have to uninstall ZA and call call Zone Alarm's tech support (and pay if you don't already have ZA Pro) and get them to tell you what registry keys where need to be removed in order for ZA to stop screwing up. ...and then I get to tell you "I told you so" nik

no, not really, because i was already aware of that. i've had it happen to me, and it's not really that big of a deal. really, when you say a product isn't close to decent, you imply that it doesn't do what it purports to do. zone alarm works just fine as a firewall. so it's uninstall procedure is a little lacking, big deal.

lol - I think you should go back and read what you wrote. You, sir, are a moron.

nik

you've got to be kidding me, you're calling a firewall less than decent because it's hard to uninstall? all i can say is it wasn't a big deal for me. if it caused you a lot of grief and trouble, then that's just too bad.

 

[crobusa]

I loathe those things, not because they annoy those pirate, but terrorize those who don't.

I have a friend who uses AOL, one day he gets a message from MS Nazi patrol for business name that hasn't been used for 6 years. (AOL had NO way of having this name in their records, he didn't have a computer at the time he used the name.)
After receiving this mailing, he was terrified as if it was an IRS audit, even though he had no warez. I had to explain it to him:
1. They mistook him for a larger company, and they don't usually audit one man businesses unless you host it.
2. With the dynamic IP from his AOL dial-up account, all MS could know was that an someone from the AOL pool installed warez without a subpoena, only economical on a massive scale.

My present boss plays the radio while he runs stuff through a heater. Because he has a resellers license (wholesaler) the RIAA got his name and sent him a letter threatening him with jail and fines for unauthorized music in a retail environment. He does not operate a store, and the only way they could have gotten his name was through a mass-mailing.

Most warez-kiddies I knew in high school were small time and used dial-up. Those lucky enough to get high-speed access have firewall software that asks whether to allow the install-app/software to connect to the net.

In both cases, the idiots never followed up with their letters, and had their net cast so thin, the search for dedicated law-breakers turned into a campaign of fear.

 

[zayened]

Originally posted by: AdamDuritz99

Originally posted by: MacBaine
OH F.....

I second that!

peace
sean

peace
ned

 

[her209]

Besides, what happens if you move IP address, have dynamic IP address, or upgrade computer hardware?

 

[dakata24]

Originally posted by: her209
Besides, what happens if you move IP address, have dynamic IP address, or upgrade computer hardware?

they're watching your every move...

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

okay, why would you uninstall it to begin with? Maybe because it malfunctioned or wasn't functioning properly to begin with. Come on people... you can't do it, I know you can. I have faith in you. You'd uninstall it because, at random, ZA decides that absolutely nothing will be let through either way. No incoming or outgoing packets allowed.

You uninstall it, but you still don't have your connection (ZA still acting as if it's installed and malfunctioning)
You remove the registry keys and hope that you don't have to reinstall your network stack as well

Does that sound like "decent" software to you?

 

[AgentofEvil]

So when you install a pirated copy of PS 7 it phones home? Or is this just when updating from 6.1 to 7?

 

[Killbat]

Let us say that the FBI DOES bring you to court alleging pirated software. What do you do? Destroy your hard drive. I mean hardcore, melting down the platters with a torch even.
What other evidence could they put together to PROVE that you used X pirated software for Y amount of time?