Adoption

[zsdersw]

Should a homosexual couple be automatically denied from adopting a child?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Should a homosexual couple be automatically denied from adopting a child?

No. And now let me get my lawn chair and popcorn for the morning show.

I've had this conversation with people who tell me I would have been better off if my mother had stayed with my abusive, alcoholic father instead of being a single mother or having two loving parents of the same sex.

EDIT: Ahh crap I wanted the No, unless better qualifed for reasons unrelated to sexual orientation.

 

[dphantom]

Should a homosexual couple be automatically denied from adopting a child?

Yes. And now let me get my lawn chair and popcorn for the morning show.

 

[zsdersw]

Yes. And now let me get my lawn chair and popcorn for the morning show.

Why "yes"?

 

[her209]

What if the adoption agency is a religious institution that doesn't approve of gays and gay marriage? Should the government be allowed to oppress their religious "freedom"?

 

[cybrsage]

No, unless the laws also bar non-married couples from adopting. If that is the case, I have to say yes, simply because it would be granting special rights to gays which straights cannot have.

 

[cybrsage]

What if the adoption agency is a religious institution that doesn't approve of gays and gay marriage? Should the government be allowed to oppress their religious "freedom"?

In this instance, they cannot be forced to violate their religion. The first amendment protects them from government domination of religion.

 

[QuantumPion]

Someone post the link to that story of the 11 year old boy whom wanted a sex change operation (was raised by two lesbians).

 

[Texashiker]

I like this answer in the poll

"Yes, unless no qualified heterosexual couple can be found in the same timeframe"

Gays decided to live a lifestyle in which no children will be produced. They should not take children away from parents who by some condition or illness can not reproduce.

Someone post the link to that story of the 11 year old boy whom wanted a sex change operation (was raised by two lesbians).

That article should make everyone question how well gays can provide a stable family. An 11 year old wants a sex change? Something is wrong there.

I know what article you are talking, the picture showed the boy wearing glasses and dressed up like a girl.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I picked the first option because it's a public poll.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Someone post the link to that story of the 11 year old boy whom wanted a sex change operation (was raised by two lesbians).

Yup thank god straight parents never raise gay children...

 

[dank69]

I would have liked an option for 'No, unless the homosexual couple was unqualified for reasons other than their sexuality.'

Given the choices, I went with the last one.

 

[Mursilis]

Gays decided to live a lifestyle in which no children will be produced. They should not take children away from parents who by some condition or illness can not reproduce.

Is this really the case, that a gay couple would be taking a child from a straight couple? Are there more children available for adoption than there are adoptive parents, or vice versa?

 

[Mursilis]

I would have liked an option for 'No, unless the homosexual couple was unqualified for reasons other than their sexuality.'

Given the choices, I went with the last one.

The last one was also my pick. It's essentially the same to the option you're requesting.

 

[dank69]

What if the adoption agency is a religious institution that doesn't approve of gays and gay marriage? Should the government be allowed to oppress their religious "freedom"?

Religious freedom should stop when it infringes on other people's rights.

 

[Mursilis]

Religious freedom should stop when it infringes on other people's rights.

I don't believe it is a human right to adopt a child. Of course, denial should not be arbitrary either, but that's different from saying it's a right.

 

[dank69]

I like this answer in the poll

"Yes, unless no qualified heterosexual couple can be found in the same timeframe"

Gays decided to live a lifestyle in which no children will be produced. They should not take children away from parents who by some condition or illness can not reproduce.




That article should make everyone question how well gays can provide a stable family. An 11 year old wants a sex change? Something is wrong there.

I know what article you are talking, the picture showed the boy wearing glasses and dressed up like a girl.

They decided, huh? Still ignoring current scientific findings I see.

 

[cybrsage]

Is this really the case, that a gay couple would be taking a child from a straight couple? Are there more children available for adoption than there are adoptive parents, or vice versa?

Well...it is complicated. For example, in the recent past, many white parents have trouble adopting black children and vice versa. The claim is that a child should be placed with others of their own skin color. While I can easily see pros and cons to that view, the problem is that there are far more black babies in adoption than white babies. Many of these black babies went unadopted due to the white parents being denied.

This has been changing a lot, most likely due to interratial marriages becoming far more accepted.

 

[cybrsage]

Religious freedom should stop when it infringes on other people's rights.

I don't believe it is a human right to adopt a child. Of course, denial should not be arbitrary either, but that's different from saying it's a right.

The couple should simply use a non-religious adoption agency then. It is not like there is only one adoption agency for the entire planet.

 

[dank69]

I don't believe it is a human right to adopt a child. Of course, denial should not be arbitrary either, but that's different from saying it's a right.

So a qualified heterosexual couple doesn't have the right to adopt a child? I wonder why do you believe that?

 

[cybrsage]

So a qualified heterosexual couple doesn't have the right to adopt a child? I wonder why do you believe that?

He believes it because it is the truth.

 

[ichy]

In a magical fantasy world where there is an unlimited supply of good heterosexual couples who want to adopt kids I could sort of understand the argument that children are better off with a male and female role model. In reality though that's not the case and I'm all for letting gay couples adopt.

 

[ichy]

Yes. And now let me get my lawn chair and popcorn for the morning show.

Your John Stewart Mill quote is incorrect. The CORRECT version is:

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice, — is often the means of their regeneration.

A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever-renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other. "

 

[1prophet]

In this instance, they cannot be forced to violate their religion. The first amendment protects them from government domination of religion.

As long as they don't accept government funding.

 

[cybrsage]

As long as they don't accept government funding.

I agree with that, provided the funding is related to the adoption endeavor (some of these groups do multiple things, such as soup kitchens) and provided they are not forced to take the money (as was done during the banking bailout).