It's pretty much simply what I (and some others) have said earlier. The owners hold all the cards, and the players are commodities that they have little respect for. If they need to eek out a win, it may come at the expense of someone's dodgy knee that needs time to heal. Many owners could give two shits about the long-term health of their players. Hell, if your RB is carrying the ball 400 times a season, no biggy. Just cut him after he turns into a glass doll and sign some youngster to take over.
It simply amounts to the possession mentality. It may exist in some construction jobs and other labor intense jobs, but the stakes are much higher in the NFL world.
Was slavery a poor choice of words? Sure. But it meets the general point of the players being possessions who have little to no choice on what to do once their contracts are signed.
Ignore the money aspect, as that is clearly not what AP is referring to. Other than that, shouldn't be too hard of a concept for you to grasp.
Except the money aspect is the biggest aspect.
Yea - you're getting used and abused. That's football. That's the sports you agreed to play. But...you're getting paid potentially millions upon millions of dollars to do so. You aren't doing it because you have to.
Defend him all you want - he's wrong. He's very, very wrong. They agree to the hard work that comes with an NFL contract because they're getting paid large sums of money to do so. If you are of sane mind, you cannot just remove the money aspect from the equation, because its the most important aspect. Its what the owners and players are BOTH fighting for here.
I'm with rudeguy. Country is in a recession and the NFL is going to strike because they don't think they're making enough millions of dollars. Ridiculous.
Was slavery a poor choice of words? Sure. But it meets the general point of the players being possessions who have little to no choice on what to do once their contracts are signed.
Ignore the money aspect,
It's pretty much simply what I (and some others) have said earlier. The owners hold all the cards, and the players are commodities that they have little respect for. If they need to eek out a win, it may come at the expense of someone's dodgy knee that needs time to heal. Many owners could give two shits about the long-term health of their players. Hell, if your RB is carrying the ball 400 times a season, no biggy. Just cut him after he turns into a glass doll and sign some youngster to take over.
It simply amounts to the possession mentality. It may exist in some construction jobs and other labor intense jobs, but the stakes are much higher in the NFL world.
Was slavery a poor choice of words? Sure. But it meets the general point of the players being possessions who have little to no choice on what to do once their contracts are signed.
Ignore the money aspect, as that is clearly not what AP is referring to. Other than that, shouldn't be too hard of a concept for you to grasp.
Bringing up Slavery is just a complete joke in this case. Why is anyone even trying to defend him...or see his side of things here? Vikings fans?
Players bring this up from time to time, they're always making millions of dollars and it always makes them look like total douchebags.
sorry: Kunta kinte
total shot in the dark how to spell that.
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racist pun!
Ignore the money aspect, as that is clearly not what AP is referring to. Other than that, shouldn't be too hard of a concept for you to grasp.
Is that so? They are not paid for their work? They have no legal rights as a person and are considered a posseion, not a human being? They can't vote? Who they sleep with/marry is decided for them by their NFL team owner? They live in sub-par to abysmal living conditions?
And here I thought they had a choice in all this...
The general point of slavery is that you are bound in servitute as a piece of property. Clearly this is not the case (Hint: Slaves did not have unions) and it has zero legal standing. AP is afforded the exact same rights as any other citizen of the US
Ooooooh, so if we ignore the differences this is like slavery! I get it now
they are on strike because the 'pro player safety' NFL wants them to play MORE, pay them LESS, and wont open their books to their employees
the 18 game seasons is bullshit and should never happen, and of course makes Goodell look like a fool as he has tried to 'champion' player safety all year and is now asking them to play even more
slavery was a poor choice of wording due the connotations it still has in this society, and beacuse 90% of people(including most of this board) think all NFL players make 10+ mil a year and have huge houses all over and drive tons of ferraris
Man you guys are sure caught up on this. Slavery was a poor choice of words... who is questioning that? The tie being made to slavery is that of a possession.
Man you guys are sure caught up on this. Slavery was a poor choice of words... who is questioning that? The tie being made to slavery is that of a possession. There employment is essentially dictated post contract by teams with things such as exclusive rights tenders, franchise tags, and things of that nature. Furthermore, their bodies are subjected to a level of physical pain that most common office workers and even construction workers cannot handle. Players essentially being viewed as frail if they can't play through a vicious blow to the head. Once the contract is signed and dotted, the players are more or less the property of the team in their chosen profession. They have little right with respect to their profession even when the contract is up due to certain levels of control that owners have (mentioned above).
Again, if you'd get over the poor use of the word slavery, you might actually start to think about what he's talking about.
Man you guys are sure caught up on this. Slavery was a poor choice of words... who is questioning that? The tie being made to slavery is that of a possession. There employment is essentially dictated post contract by teams with things such as exclusive rights tenders, franchise tags, and things of that nature. Furthermore, their bodies are subjected to a level of physical pain that most common office workers and even construction workers cannot handle. Players essentially being viewed as frail if they can't play through a vicious blow to the head. Once the contract is signed and dotted, the players are more or less the property of the team in their chosen profession. They have little right with respect to their profession even when the contract is up due to certain levels of control that owners have (mentioned above).
Again, if you'd get over the poor use of the word slavery, you might actually start to think about what he's talking about.
Football players are pansies and candy assess.
This. I wish the entire country would go on an attendance strike for a year and not go to a single football game to teach these fuckheads what hard times REALLY feel like.
There would be no NFL without the players, and fans don't pay 100s or 1000s of dollars to go see Eric Crouch throw a TD pass to John Standeford. They would, however, spend 100s or 1000s of dollars to go see Peyton Manning throw a TD pass to Reggie Wayne.
You're an idiot.
So when Payton and Wayne retire, the NFL will shut down? Too bad
The NFL is bigger than the individual players (Something people like Ocho and TO forget). If these players don't like it, they can retire and get jobs that are less taxing for their bodies, but, of course, do not pay as well and do not feed their egos.
The line to take their place starts way down there.........
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