AEROCRAFT FLYING HOTEL

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
largest VTOL heavier than-air-craft evar?

yea and looks a lot like the craft in starwars. if this thing is truly going to be built in 2010 i will be on it.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
That will be a miserable failure.

I dont think so. if they do it right and keep the price comparable to current cruise ticket prices it may be a new revolution in travel. look how popular blimp travel was in teh 30's but you had to be the ubber rich to experience it and this thing is much faster than a blimp and can hold more people which will keep cost down.
 

MoPHo

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I can picture the movie being made 80 years from now...

Aerocraft Pilot: This ship is unbreakable! It's made of helium and has the most state of the art electronics to keep us safe.

then for some reason (someone spills coffee on the console or they hit a cloud or there's snakes on it or something)...

Aerocraft Pilot: OH NOES!!! HOW COULD I NOT HAVE SEEN THIS COMING!!! *dies in a fire*

then leonardo di caprio's grand son and his newly acquired kate winset-esque girlfriend are free falling and there's only one parachute so he gives it to her.
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: Citrix

I dont think so. if they do it right and keep the price comparable to current cruise ticket prices it may be a new revolution in travel. look how popular blimp travel was in teh 30's but you had to be the ubber rich to experience it and this thing is much faster than a blimp and can hold more people which will keep cost down.

Where to begin?

First and foremost, with aviation, weight is a big concern. It's hardly a concern on cruise ships, I guarantee it. Anything and everything goes. From a safety standpoint a cruise ship has lifeboats - a dirigible has nothing. But then again if an airliner goes down in flames - let's face it: everyone is screwed. :Q

There's an issue of comfort - yes the sea can be relentless and so can the not so friendly skies. The speed is rather high given the range covered - I'd say it's more like a scenic alternative to traditional flying and thus never replace the experience of a sea bound cruise. Given the differing types of motion the typical effects of mal de debarquement syndrome upon disembarkation is probably less - or could be more noticeable of a higher frequency between periods? Who knows? Perhaps there could be some data on Zepplin journeys but probably not due to the era of the old Hydrogen filled flying leviathans.

Am I biased? Damn right I am. I hate airplanes so naturally I would hate that thing.
 

flxnimprtmscl

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I'm inclined to believe this will be a failure as well. No sun deck, no going outside, nothing to see, nowhere to visit, etc.. You've basicly got your own room on an airplane. This is fun or novel because why?

If you've never been on a plane this would be cool but that's not the demographic they're shooting for here. People who can afford the tickets will, in the mean, be plenty used to air travel. This will just be a slower and slightly less boring version.
 

blue1friday2

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Huh, It's kinda neat but pretty much like a cruise ship. I don't like the idea of seeing the world from a little box. I'd much rather go out and experience things for real. But the novelty could definitely make them some big bucks!!!
 
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I love the possibilities of it...

Your one week cruise itinerary:

Day 1: Depart NY cruising south to Carribbean
Day 2: Docked in St Thomas. Day to explore. Departs 8am tomorrow
Day 3: Cruise Day - On board activities
Day 4: Dock in Spain - Departs 8pm
Day 4: Canary Islands
Day 5: Cruise Day
Day 6: Rio!
Day 7: Cruise Day
Day 8: Return to NY

Or whatever... I'm not a travel agent. You could do pan-Pacific tours, take a lap around the Atlantic, Indian Ocean cruise... Anything. Sounds very cool to me.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Originally posted by: Citrix

I dont think so. if they do it right and keep the price comparable to current cruise ticket prices it may be a new revolution in travel. look how popular blimp travel was in teh 30's but you had to be the ubber rich to experience it and this thing is much faster than a blimp and can hold more people which will keep cost down.

Where to begin?

First and foremost, with aviation, weight is a big concern. It's hardly a concern on cruise ships, I guarantee it. Anything and everything goes. From a safety standpoint a cruise ship has lifeboats - a dirigible has nothing. But then again if an airliner goes down in flames - let's face it: everyone is screwed. :Q

There's an issue of comfort - yes the sea can be relentless and so can the not so friendly skies. The speed is rather high given the range covered - I'd say it's more like a scenic alternative to traditional flying and thus never replace the experience of a sea bound cruise. Given the differing types of motion the typical effects of mal de debarquement syndrome upon disembarkation is probably less - or could be more noticeable of a higher frequency between periods? Who knows? Perhaps there could be some data on Zepplin journeys but probably not due to the era of the old Hydrogen filled flying leviathans.

Am I biased? Damn right I am. I hate airplanes so naturally I would hate that thing.

and really that's all your post proved was that you were biased and had no idea why it would fail, just that you wanted it to.



looks like a worthwhile venture to me, could it fail? of course, any venture can fail, but it has a chance at success.
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
I'm inclined to believe this will be a failure as well. No sun deck, no going outside, nothing to see, nowhere to visit, etc.. You've basicly got your own room on an airplane. This is fun or novel because why?

If you've never been on a plane this would be cool but that's not the demographic they're shooting for here. People who can afford the tickets will, in the mean, be plenty used to air travel. This will just be a slower and slightly less boring version.

i disagree, you aren't considering enough factors.

1. this is faster than most cruise ships, you can get from NY to LA in 18 hours, not too bad.

2. pricing, you can have very interesting pricing options from extravagant to cheaper than normal flight seats.

3. on a transatlantic / transpacific flight this might be a better options. shoot, i'd rather be in something like this for 38 to 40 hours vs being in a traditional airliner for 16+ hours. plus they can offer soo much more for entertainment etc.

 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

i disagree, you aren't considering enough factors.

1. this is faster than most cruise ships, you can get from NY to LA in 18 hours, not too bad.

2. pricing, you can have very interesting pricing options from extravagant to cheaper than normal flight seats.

3. on a transatlantic / transpacific flight this might be a better options. shoot, i'd rather be in something like this for 38 to 40 hours vs being in a traditional airliner for 16+ hours. plus they can offer soo much more for entertainment etc.

Have you even been on a cruise? What do you know about the industry? Point number one shows a total disregard for what people want on a vacation. We have things called surveys and the participation is excellent and we know what people like and don't like. To many, the ship is the destination on a cruise vacation. Comparing this to a cruise ship is apples to grapefruits comparison.

People that want to take that route do so via the Panama Canal. That is an adventure that I would like to do one day however I would have to change ships to do it.

I'm not even going to discuss the obvious attraction it would be for a terrorist to take it down. :Q

 
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I don't see this working as a form of transortation. But SUPERCRUISING!!! That's another story. See my other post. On a regular cruise you get 7 or 10 days and you get to toodle around the Carribbean. On a SUPERCRUISE you can toodle around a whole ocean.

Florida to the Carribbean to South America to the African coast to the Med and back to Florida. Or whatever... Just like a regular cruise except you cover more ground.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
I don't see this working as a form of transortation. But SUPERCRUISING!!! That's another story. See my other post. On a regular cruise you get 7 or 10 days and you get to toodle around the Carribbean. On a SUPERCRUISE you can toodle around a whole ocean.

Florida to the Carribbean to South America to the African coast to the Med and back to Florida. Or whatever... Just like a regular cruise except you cover more ground.

exactly. 170mph at 8,000 feet would be a lot better than 500mph @ 35,000 feet. you could sit in your room and enjoy the scenery or walk around. as PlatinumGold
said this would be awesome for transatlantic or transpacific travel. I have flown to europe and man after 15 hours on any airplane in those cramped seats it is just murder. with this there is something to do and you can walk around and enjoy yourself instead of trying to sleep to ease the pain and get your body used to the time zone change. Sure the this new plane would take longer but i think people would really use it.

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Purpose: Long-range travel for passengers who are more concerned with the journey than the destination

 
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