When you finish throwing all that straw and bull crap around maybe there's a conversation to be had. Otherwise, just keep slinging.
edit: nothing to say about anything in the linked articles? Did you even bother?
Dealing with WHAT shit?
You're not even falling the fucked-up narrative your fellow leftloon put forward.
What the FUCK did the guy have against a trainload of people from HK?
Plenty of people go through hardship and don't end up going axe-murderer loony-toons on a train in Germany, shouting "Allah Akbar!" as you hack at innocent people.
Why is so hard for you to say it? Guy was a fucktard religious nut. His belief in some stupid bearded jackass's version of Islam told him this shit was not only okay, but to be rewarded in some bullshit afterlife.
Stop running from it and making stupid excuses for it.
What exactly do leftloons think is in it for them to whitewash radical Islam?
Dealing with WHAT shit?
You're not even falling the fucked-up narrative your fellow leftloon put forward.
What the FUCK did the guy have against a trainload of people from HK?
Plenty of people go through hardship and don't end up going axe-murderer loony-toons on a train in Germany, shouting "Allah Akbar!" as you hack at innocent people.
Why is so hard for you to say it? Guy was a fucktard religious nut. His belief in some stupid bearded jackass's version of Islam told him this shit was not only okay, but to be rewarded in some bullshit afterlife.
Stop running from it and making stupid excuses for it.
What exactly do leftloons think is in it for them to whitewash radical Islam?
Almost every single terrorist attack carried out by Muslims (outside of Daesh) was carried out for reasons other then Islam told me to do it, including 911
Yes, America seems to be one of the biggest common reasons
Even the story of Daesh starts with America invading Iraq
So wait, we take the terrorist for their word when they say it was for reasons, but not for the other reasons you dont like. So when they say they did it for X, no, but the Y part yes.
Also, Islam is not just a religion, but a culture in the Arab world. You look at how religion is in the western world, and view Islam around the world the same. You must not know many Muslims. If you did, you would realize Islam is more than just its religious texts.
A 17 year old kid, 1000s of miles from home, probably not liked by the people around him, most likely took him a couple of years of traveling on his own to get there (meaning he probably started the trip when he was 14 or 15), a time period where he was likely raped or beaten or robbed or any or all of and possibly multiple times, and who, as reported in the media, had just found out a few days ago that a friend of his had died back in Afghanistan.
So, in the, I'm sure, rock solid state of mind that he was in, he decides, "fuck it, I'm a radical soldier of my God and I'm gonna go down fighting cause theirs no point in dealing with this shit any more."
Basically, he's Dylann Roof/Robert Lewis Dear/Micah Johnson/Jerad and Amanda Miller/fill in the whichever fucked up similar person.
He's far more likely to have come from something like the links below detail than anything else.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/d...ild-refugees-eu-without-parents-unaccompanied
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-fate-of-lone-children-in-calais-refugee-camp
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/12/almost-6000-refugee-children-missing-last-year-germany
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens...panied-refugee-children-are-missing-1.3428840
So wait, you don't like it when your reasoning is applied to the US
Do you at least admit there is a common link?
What's amusing about that video is the author & fans presumably see the world just like ISIS.
Remember that ISIS types aren't the smart ones with some perspective on history, like the fact they only exist due to the power vacuum in the area resulting from neocon ideology.
Yes, but that has nothing to do with the point that I was making. But, lets do the same thing you always do.
Yes, the US has made and continues to make mistakes in foreign policy and action.
Yes, the US has done and continues to do immoral things that feed Islamic terrorism.
No, the US is not a perfect country and it does not have perfect people leading it.
Now that those things are out of the way, can we talk about how Muslims make up a disproportionate amount of terrorism? Or do we still have to focus on other things before you can admit a fact that should be true without the relativism you seem to desire?
It is kind of hard to do
It's like having a neighbor with this HUGE pile of shit and in his yard and all he wants to discuss is foreigners stinking up the place
Except your falsely thinking that the USA has this YUGE pile.
It is kind of hard to do
It's like having a neighbor with this HUGE pile of shit and in his yard and all he wants to discuss is foreigners stinking up the place
Why can those facts not exist exclusive to each other? Its like saying you cant put out your house that is on fire, because a cop wants to talk about your past parking tickets.
Why does the huge pile of shit mean we cant admit there are other factors.
I also disagree with the implication that Islam is only a tiny factor.
Now for the joke, is the pile of shit caused by the foreigners
I was just reading how the US accidentally killed another 85 innocent foreigners yesterday in Syria
I suppose they made you do it, by following Islam
Syria: At least 85 civilians feared dead after US air strike 'mistake'
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/syria-least-85-civilians-feared-dead-after-us-air-strike-mistake-1571600
I was just reading how the US accidentally killed another 85 innocent foreigners yesterday in Syria
I suppose they made you do it, by following Islam
Syria: At least 85 civilians feared dead after US air strike 'mistake'
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/syria-least-85-civilians-feared-dead-after-us-air-strike-mistake-1571600
Anything but admit the connection right?
Horrible and I hope people are held accountable for what happened. Still, you cannot seem to admit a fact because of your...?
Which is why I have strenuously called for isolationism in the Middle East. It is obvious that our continued involvement is nothing but a terrorism breeder.
The people in power keep wanting to intervene usually due to our warmongering media constantly goading them into it. Things are going to go nuclear when Clinton gets into office. She is at least as hawkish as Bush and perhaps more. So as bad as things are now in the Middle East, they will be worse by the time she is done. We REFUSE to learn our lesson.
In the mean time, the people will stream out of these regions and destabilize Europe.
The appropriate strategy is to SHUT the fucking gates and isolate the Middle East. Let whatever entity is most powerful take over and deal with that entity as a sovereign nation.
I wonder what your reaction would be if Russia dropped a bomb in America that killed 85 innocent Americans. When did we as a country get the right to bomb whomever the fuck we want to?
And why do our bombs only fall only on countries that can't really fight back?
Huh? I said I hope those who did it are held accountable. Its not okay to kill people that are innocent. My reaction would be the same.
When the guy shot up the nightclub and killed all those people in Orlando, I did not call for invading or bombing, so not sure why that would change if Russia did anything. In fact, going to war with Russia would be a horrible reaction.
Not what I was looking for. What would your reaction be if a Russian bomber dropped a bomb in New York City and killed 95 innocents. Lets say they claimed they were targeting Russian Mafia.
My response as an American would be incandescent RAGE over the fact that a foreign nation was dropping bombs on my fucking country. I could give a fuck over whether Russia held the pilot accountable for missing his intended target or not. I believe this is the type of rage we are generating in the Middle East with each bomb that we drop. We are terrorizing them on a scale they cannot hope to match. Every week random American "smart" bombs are chewing up the innocent along with the guilty all over the Middle East.
Yes, but that has nothing to do with the point that I was making. But, lets do the same thing you always do.
Yes, the US has made and continues to make mistakes in foreign policy and action.
Yes, the US has done and continues to do immoral things that feed Islamic terrorism.
No, the US is not a perfect country and it does not have perfect people leading it.
Now that those things are out of the way, can we talk about how Muslims make up a disproportionate amount of terrorism? Or do we still have to focus on other things before you can admit a fact that should be true without the relativism you seem to desire?
No, ISIS does not only exist because of the power vacuum. Its like like the US blunders in the region somehow got over 100k people around the world to join ISIS and follow their views. If you knew anything about the region, you would know that ISIS views were around the Arab world for a long while. The power vacuum just allowed them to build up forces en masse.
Huh? I said I hope those who did it are held accountable. Its not okay to kill people that are innocent. My reaction would be the same.
When the guy shot up the nightclub and killed all those people in Orlando, I did not call for invading or bombing, so not sure why that would change if Russia did anything. In fact, going to war with Russia would be a horrible reaction.
This is a pretty trivial question. We simply rhetorically defined our violence as that of the good guys and theirs as the bad guys. Then we can kill with impunity and any consequences are the devil's work. It works pretty well on simpletons.
Like in all groups of people there are the smarter ones and the real dummies. The trick is to avoid putting power in the hands of the latter. For example, if some entity knocked off the american government, I suspect the gun-clingers would win out in the aftermath and whatever they establish wouldn't be very good.
Seems this only applies to white people.