Agree or Disagree: i don't want you smoking your e-cig in my cubicle

[slightlyhuman]

make sure to get the coffee and sodas out while youre at it. oh, and aspirin, acetaminophen and ibuprofen. and all the prescribed things as well. these are all drugs, and in your workplace.

what about the ones with zero nicotine? whats your argument against those? you cant stand vapor within sight of you? really?

i know what your intent was, and i know i went a long way farther than was really necessary. but really, how bitchy/ whiny do you really need to be? grow a set of something and get on with your life. or waste your time with a whiny petition in your office and ruin some other peoples day to make you and your little group feel superior. either way, dont affect me. im a smoker, i go outside to smoke. i also have 4 or 5 different e-cigs that i was given by myriad nonsmokers so i can puff in my office/ home if i feel the need. thank you, but i can wait to go outside.

that's not even worth replying to. carry on.

 

[JBT]

Agreed. I can't believe these things are allowed inside. I see punks walking around in the mall from time. WTF? GTFO

 

[NoCreativity]

Honestly I don't want the guy near me because he reeks of smoke to begin with.

My only motive is I don't think I should have to see his breath from an e-cig in MY personal space while I'm trying to help the guy be better at his job. He's been here a few months and didn't work out in other department(the guy is a fucking idiot) so they tried him in ours before they can him if he doesn't work out.

Very proficient with multi-tasking(facebook, smoking and training all at the same time): check.
Cross trained in and familiar with the workings of multiple departments within the company in only a few months: check.

Better be careful how you approach this situation because this guy is on the fast track to management.

 

[slightlyhuman]

My two cents? It seems like you're mixing two issues in that you think this guy is a moron and hasn't earned his keep yet (how can he if he just started?) and him smoking his e-cig around you. It would be wise to disconnect the two in your head, otherwise it sounds like a spiteful move to me.
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the guy is a moron, a smoker or not. i'm not going to post why he's a moron(believe me, this guy is a loser). i know when i started here i was a sponge, doing whatever i was told. i'm running the show now. this guy doesn't have a clue and he's 15+ years older than me.

so if i'm coming off as spiteful because i don't want him smoking in MY(people, this isn't rocket science he can do it at his desk, bathroom, anywhere else on the property)cube is combined with my thoughts and realizations that he doesn't belong here/won't be a good fit/doesn't have that new guy learning mentality, can you blame me?

 

[slightlyhuman]

Very proficient with multi-tasking(facebook, smoking and training all at the same time): check.
Cross trained in and familiar with the workings of multiple departments within the company in only a few months: check.

Better be careful how you approach this situation because this guy is on the fast track to management.

:beer; :biggrin:

 

[Platypus]

the guy is a moron, a smoker or not. i'm not going to post why he's a moron(believe me, this guy is a loser). i know when i started here i was a sponge, doing whatever i was told. i'm running the show now. this guy doesn't have a clue and he's 15+ years older than me.

so if i'm coming off as spiteful because i don't want him smoking in MY(people, this isn't rocket science he can do it at his desk, bathroom, anywhere else on the property)cube is combined with my thoughts and realizations that he doesn't belong here/won't be a good fit/doesn't have that new guy learning mentality, can you blame me?

I'm still confused on the status of this guy being a moron or not has anything at all to do with him using an e-cig in your personal space. I work with some extremely brilliant minds who smoke e-cigs. I think you're allowing yourself to feel more strongly about his usage simply because he's a moron based on how much detail you've put into establishing this fact, but good luck sorting out this problem OP.

 

[slightlyhuman]

Fwiw I would be fine with the vapor if he didnt smell like shit to begin with from guess what... Smoking cigarettes.

 

[highland145]

What's the policy for excessive perfume?

 

[SP33Demon]

I agree with you DP. That is bullshit and he needs to smoke on his own time, in his own personal space.

 

[slightlyhuman]

I'm still confused on the status of this guy being a moron or not has anything at all to do with him using an e-cig in your personal space. I work with some extremely brilliant minds who smoke e-cigs. I think you're allowing yourself to feel more strongly about his usage simply because he's a moron based on how much detail you've put into establishing this fact, but good luck sorting out this problem OP.

This thread isn't about why he is a moron.

Small background:

This guy was hired to work in a different department. He didnt do worth a fuck there. We were hiring or looking to hire someone at the same time he wasn't working out in his precious department. Instead of firing him they figured they would see if he did better on my side. Bright idea. He was demoted from a coordinator position to the low position over here. That's definitely a hit to a persons pride. One would think he's on thin ice after every single person in the previous department had NOTHING but negative things about him. You would think he would walk around here a little differently no? Knowing you didnt work out in the previous department. Now you're on FB while being trained? You're also smoking inside when you have never seen any one else in this company do it?

The few times I've tried correcting this guy on mistakes he's made he replies back with excuses every time. He's been on our side for a month now. We are only doing this training becsuse he still hasn't got it. Not because its hard but because he just doesn't have what it takes. Listen to what you're being told by people that have been doing this job longer than you. Take in criticism as a chance to learn to be better. Dont reply back or try to debate.

I can go on and fucking on.

 

[Druidx]

I guess I clearly fall in the minority view point but I don’t see the issue. Part of the reason I wouldn’t mind is I secretly see the humor in someone puffing on an E-cig, they’re basically big babies showing the word they still need a pacifier.
I’m more troubled by people wearing to much cologne or perfume, natural BO, loudly chewing bubble gum, popping bubbles with gum, humming to themselves or talking to themselves while working. Basically I don’t want to hear or smell them, everything else I can easily ignore.

 

[slightlyhuman]

Also just to add to the guys description.

The first day he was here. His old company and our old company do business together(logistics). Someone at our company was on the phone with his company. Somehow his old company was informed we had a new guy that would dealing with them sooner or later. Turned out to be this guy was supposed to be at work today AT HIS PREVIOUS FUCKING JOB. He never gave them a notice but instead just took off that day to start his new job.

Why our CEO ever let him work here a second day is beyond me. Probably because he can't admit he fucked up big time hiring this tool. Imagine that.

 

[Ruptga]

I guess I clearly fall in the minority view point but I don’t see the issue.

I don't think I would care either, but I'm not an ex-smoker like the OP is. It's also a respect thing, the guy is smoking and screwing around when he should be paying attention to his training. There again I don't think I would personally care, I'd just get his useless ass fired that much faster, but I can see how someone else would personally care.

 

[Lonyo]

Tell the guy you're an ex smoker and it makes you uncomfortable.

 

[rudeguy]

don't look at him all the time. Don't you have work to do?


FFS...this is the problem with our society. "WWAAAAAAAAAAAAH! He is smoking an e-cig! WAAAAAAAAAH I feel uncomfortable when I stare at him! WAAAAAAAAH!!!!!"

Mind your own damn business and you won't have an issue.

 

[rudeguy]

Also just to add to the guys description.

The first day he was here. His old company and our old company do business together(logistics). Someone at our company was on the phone with his company. Somehow his old company was informed we had a new guy that would dealing with them sooner or later. Turned out to be this guy was supposed to be at work today AT HIS PREVIOUS FUCKING JOB. He never gave them a notice but instead just took off that day to start his new job.

Why our CEO ever let him work here a second day is beyond me. Probably because he can't admit he fucked up big time hiring this tool. Imagine that.

How does any of that affect you? Please tell us how any of what you said is going to change how you have to live your life one bit? Please?

You are being childish and petty. I have no idea why your CEO lets you continue to work for him. I would hire go getters who aren't afraid to take chances. People like the new guy.

 

[IronWing]

Why anyone knowingly hires a smoker is beyond me. Smokers make terrible employees. They insist on blowing smoke at people and take endless breaks. Smoking within sight or smell of customers should be an automatic firing offense.

 

[LTC8K6]

Just tell them you want equality, to be able to use your drug of choice while at work. :biggrin:

 

[BurnItDwn]

I think only high quality aromatic pipe tobacco should be allowed indoors, like a good vanilla cavendish or maybe a butterscotch.

I smoke mostly cheap burleys, so I would be related to the outdoors.

 

[Ruptga]

rudeguy, what the fuck are you talking about? The guy didn't give notice at his last job, an employer with strong ties to his current job. He doesn't pay attention, doesn't listen, was basically fired from a different department, and has been wasting the OP's time for over a month. Nothing about that says "go-getter" to me, and I can see how the OP would be personally affected and quite annoyed by this guy.

Have you ever had to train a dumbass that didn't really care about the job? I bet it gets old after several weeks.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Of course I have a problem with someone smoking an e-cig in my cubicle; that is childish behavior and it has no place in a business. Grow up and smoke a pipe like a goddamn gentleman.

 

[JManInPhoenix]

AGREED! E cigs stink up the place. We had two other techs smoking next me a while back and it was so bad the bossman made them take it outside.

 

[gorcorps]

I'm still confused on the status of this guy being a moron or not has anything at all to do with him using an e-cig in your personal space. I work with some extremely brilliant minds who smoke e-cigs. I think you're allowing yourself to feel more strongly about his usage simply because he's a moron based on how much detail you've put into establishing this fact, but good luck sorting out this problem OP.

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You already don't like the guy so everything he does you find annoying. There's a guy at work I dislike and even the way he drinks his coffee annoys the fuck out of me (it seems like he slurps a lot). I'd bet if somebody you've worked with for a while and respect came into your cubicle and was the first to do such a thing, you wouldn't have as big of an issue with it. Try to separate your personal feelings for this guy from the e-cig thing.

 

[BoomerD]

I use an e-cig...and don't see a problem with using one...BUT, I'm surprised that the company allows its use inside the building. Many states regulate their use just like "real cigarettes." No use inside a place of employment. Companies are, of course, free to add additional restrictions, inside vehicles, not on company property, etc.

If your company doesn't have a policy on these things, just tell the guy you don't want him to use his vaporizer in your cubicle.

Most of the rest of your rant is a completely different issue. If the guy is as much of an idiot as you say...why is he still working there? Is he related to one of the "Higher-Ups?" Or, does he, for whatever reason, just "rub you wrong?"

Other than coming from a company your company works with, I don't have a problem with him quitting w/o notice...I've done it several times. Hell, I quit a construction company w/o notice...went to work for one of the crane rental companies...and took one of their cranes onto the job where I had been working...before they even knew I had quit. (left the job on Friday afternoon, got the call offering me the job, accepted it, took the crane to that jobsite on Monday morning)
Companies have no problem laying people off without any notice...and severance pay isn't required unless it's in an employment contract...so I just don't get why the fuck so many people think there's something wrong with quitting w/o notice.

 

[hanoverphist]

i know what your intent was, and i know i went a long way farther than was really necessary. but really

You're not actually stupid enough to think smoking is equivalent to drinking a soda, are you?

reading comprehension not your friend? he stated that all drugs shouldnt be allowed at work. all. the original was like using a blanket to extinguish a match as it was, so i took it to the next logical ridiculous end. it was obvious and ridiculous on purpose.

Why anyone knowingly hires a smoker is beyond me. Smokers make terrible employees. They insist on blowing smoke at people and take endless breaks. Smoking within sight or smell of customers should be an automatic firing offense.

while i do see the downside of the whole group heath benefits issue with hiring smokers, the same goes for any disease/ ailment that is permanent. other than that, there are plenty of non smokers that fuck around and waste company time under the guise of "on break". in my circles, much more wasted on getting their snack food ready before they go on break, going to the bathroom after break is over, making phone calls while at their desks and such. sucky people are sucky people, whether they smoke doesnt have much bearing on that.

personally, id probably ask them to not puff the e-cig in my area just so he isnt distracted from what i was trying to teach him. being a smoker, any smell it may cause is not likely to bother me. the sight of it wont either. if i was trying to teach him something and he was fumbling around trying to balance that and an e-cig would bother me.