No combustion takes place inside an e-cig, therefore there is no CO hazard.
Not necessarily. In my view, the onus is on the one wishing to curtail another's freedoms to prove that the exercise of such interferes with their own. While I find e-cigs smokers to be somewhat pathetic, there is no evidence that their "effluent" is harmful to bystanders, and this should be proven beyond a reasonable doubt before putting restrictions on these people, and not by one or two trumped-up studies.
Good luck with all of that. As long as it's your own private affair, I couldn't care less how poorly you wish to treat those who would volunteer for such humiliation. If you care to know, I am speaking in a general sense, and not about granting employees rights to which they are not entitled. My beef is with the cowardly way people will try to influence those in authority to turn a personal preference into a law.Isn't this a thread about actions inside another person's cubicle or building or what have you?
Essentially, fuck you and your "onus" when you are in my building or work place. You will speak, smell, dress, and act as I instruct. You can share pictures of your dog but not your children. You will not suck on a creepy drug dispenser, have a neck tattoo, or wear white sunglasses. You can drink coffee, and have some beers out by the basketball hoop on Friday afternoon, because that doesn't bother me, for now. If you bitch about the rules you will be gently removed from the property.
We are almost always a guest on another person's property.
Maybe I missed the point though.
Does it cause cancer?
Does it stink?
If so I dont wanna be near it.
No and No.
The true answers are unknown and yes. It is currently unknown if e-cigs cause cancer but they do contain and emit known toxins. And, yes, e-cigs do stink.
Nicotine is a fairly well understood chemical and is not known to directly cause cancer, it's not a carcinogen. However, there seems to be a relationship between nicotine and cancer.The true answers are unknown and yes. It is currently unknown if e-cigs cause cancer but they do contain and emit known toxins. And, yes, e-cigs do stink.
I can smell vapping before I see the e-cigs; it stinks so your insistance that people can't smell it carries no weight. Smokers spent years insisting their shit doesn't stink. This is no different, a bunch of selfish assholes imposing their toxins on those around them. We don't know what other chemicals are added to the vapors beyond nicotine so whether or not the vapors are carcinogenic is still an unknown.2nd hand "vape" is not known to cause any health hazards, there's a tiny amount of nicotine if you directly inhale the vapor, which is nearly impossible to do unless you're actively trying, and even then it contains 10x less than a regular cig and contains none of the other chemicals and by-products.
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-sty...cotine-toxins-tobacco-study-article-1.1565760
Also, if you can smell the vapor from one, you're either way too close to the person exhaling (right up in their face) or you should be getting paid $5M a year working for a fragrance company, because your nose is more sensitive than a bloodhound's.
That means you can fairly easily evaluate the chemicals in the liquid.
I can smell vapping before I see the e-cigs; it stinks so your insistance that people can't smell it carries no weight. Smokers spent years insisting their shit doesn't stink. This is no different, a bunch of selfish assholes imposing their toxins on those around them. We don't know what other chemicals are added to the vapors beyond nicotine so whether or not the vapors are carcinogenic is still an unknown.
That's not exactly true, when I walk into the vape shop across the street, where there are ~3-5 people in there vaping at any give time, you can certainly smell it the second you enter. It smells good though...Also, if you can smell the vapor from one, you're either way too close to the person exhaling (right up in their face) or you should be getting paid $5M a year working for a fragrance company, because your nose is more sensitive than a bloodhound's.
The placed I buy from do:This would be great if the ingredients were listed and tested.
This is a bad argument, yes there are some bad liquids from some vendors (I'm looking at you, China). For the most part the chemicals are known, but that doesn't prevent a "bad" manufacturer from making a bad mix. Should we bad products where a manufacturer has a quality problem (accidental or intentional)? No, so it's no different here.We don't know what other chemicals are added to the vapors beyond nicotine so whether or not the vapors are carcinogenic is still an unknown.
That's not exactly true, when I walk into the vape shop across the street, where there are ~3-5 people in there vaping at any give time, you can certainly smell it the second you enter. It smells good though...
No and it's a fruity smell. It's the juice.Do they also sell pipe tobacco, though?
Hysterical people like you are what makes quitting smoking so difficult for the smokers that are out there. E-cigs help people quit smoking whether you realize it or not.
This would be great if the ingredients were listed and tested.
so does will power, your point? i didn't use e-cigs, or gum/insert crutch here. i decided i was tired of destroying my body and smelling/feeling like shit.
There is no carbon monoxide in the vapors. The impetus to figure out what's in the vapor and what concentrations the vapors are @ should be on the crybabies who think that this shit will kill them. The very fact that an E-cig isn't releasing a ton of vapor should indicate already that what ever it's releasing, it isn't a whole hell of a lot. An E-cig has the nictoine like a pack of cigarettes yet releases the amount of vapor like that of a single cigarette.
Hysterical people like you are what makes quitting smoking so difficult for the smokers that are out there. E-cigs help people quit smoking whether you realize it or not.
Whoop de fucking do.
So did I, do I get a round of applause?
What's the problem with making it easier and more pleasant for others to give up?