there is no rule on bad breath, being sick or being a loud mouth feminist, why can't we ban those?
Apparently you didn't get the fact that I was responding to the asinine statement you made about how something is safe because it's odorless.
Carbon Monoxide is odorless, but not safe.
But feel free to jump to some more irrational conclusions while you're at it.
I don't really care that much about someone smoking an ecig indoors, but it's hardly unreasonable to ask someone to not use them while in someone elses workspace. Remember it's always assholes who fuck it up for everyone and thus we need to make blanket rules.
But if I were a libertarian, my position might be something along the lines of:
It was your choice to start smoking, and it is therefore not my fault that you're addicted so therefore I shouldn't have to make accommodations due to your poor life choices. So go smoke outside.
The former 2 examples are not choices in the same way that vaping is...there is no rule on bad breath, being sick or being a loud mouth feminist, why can't we ban those?
The former 2 examples are not choices in the same way that vaping is...
Which doesn't matter because just about anything can be banned in a workplace.
wtf? Nicotine inhalers are at LEAST 20 years old. They were created when it became illegal to smoke inside. I've been buying nicotine inhalers for years.Still "new" so not many laws/rules around it but that's changing fast. 2 cities in the area banned it's use in places where cigarettes are banned.
Please reference my P&N thread where I advocate treating e-cigs just like cigarettes. They should be banned from public spaces because I don't like them.
Vapping is just a way for people to get around no smoking rules. I would not go out of my way to complain about someone doing it, but it would maybe annoy me a bit especialy if they're too preoccupied with it and I need their attention. It's the same with people who absolutely HAVE to pickup a phone call or read a text even though you're in the middle of a conversation with them. In fact that is probably more annoying than anything else someone can do in an office.
Dude...you're a geek AND a ginger...does anyone even notice/acknowledge you? :ninja:
I don't like alcohol or drunks...Since alcohol is one of the most addicting drugs available today, how about we make that illegal?
Since that didn't quite work out the last time, how about we simply outlaw public consumption (including bars and restaurants) instead of completely outlawing it? That should put a big dent in the DUI arrests...
We have a new guy(and he's a fucking moron).
He's a smoker. First things first, I just quit smoking(only smoked 2-3 years) 6 months ago. This guy is shadowing me tomorrow and will be within 2-4ft of me all day. He's with another co-worker today.
I see him puffing on his e-cig every few minutes. I'm telling him tomorrow that I'd prefer he not bring that in my cubicle. I understand there's no smell. I don't want to see your breath within my personal space and I should have that right.
I went out to talk to a few smokers(prob not a wise choice) about their opinion on the matter. Of course they said what's the big deal. The big fucking deal is this is my personal space, not yours. You're training here and obviously haven't earned your keep. I think you're a fucking moron for being on mobile facebook and smoking an e-cig while being trained. Why do I NOT have that right to request that any more so than he DOES have that right to smoke in my cube/personal space?
/weak rant off
Hence the quotes around "new". Take a walk down the street in a downtown area. I bet you have no problem finding someone vaping, but you'll be the only one with an inhaler.wtf? Nicotine inhalers are at LEAST 20 years old. They were created when it became illegal to smoke inside. I've been buying nicotine inhalers for years.
I don't like alcohol or drunks...Since alcohol is one of the most addicting drugs available today, how about we make that illegal?
Since that didn't quite work out the last time, how about we simply outlaw public consumption (including bars and restaurants) instead of completely outlawing it? That should put a big dent in the DUI arrests...
I feel like I've been sexually harassed after reading this. I'm going to sue you and your boss. We need tighter government regulations and stricter office policy. It should be illegal to use a nicotine inhaler within 10 feet of a door and it should be illegal to drink coffee in public. If you want to get all fucked up and shaky, do it at home. We also need more checkpoints around the country to stop the epidemic of people puffing on nicotine inhalers and e-cigs in cars that contain children. More government is always the answer.Can you not drink coffee within 10 feet of my desk please. I can smell it and the vapour coming off it could give me cancer. K thanks.
the steam sticks are nothing more then a drug delivery device and a form of paraphernalia. Any zero tolerance drug / alcohol policy will cover all legal / illegal alcohol drug use in the work place. It's simply a matter of enforcement and federally mandated if it's a public funded operation and or safety sensitive. It can also be considered a form of work place harassment if the problem persists. Keeping a log of occurrences is evidence of violations and harassment.
I feel like I've been sexually harassed after reading this. I'm going to sue you and your boss. We need tighter government regulations and stricter office policy. It should be illegal to use a nicotine inhaler within 10 feet of a door and it should be illegal to drink coffee in public. If you want to get all fucked up and shaky, do it at home. We also need more checkpoints around the country to stop the epidemic of people puffing on nicotine inhalers and e-cigs in cars that contain children. Less government is always the answer. Always vote with your conscious. Our local represenetive always does the right thing.
the steam sticks are nothing more then a drug delivery device and a form of paraphernalia. Any zero tolerance drug / alcohol policy will cover all legal / illegal alcohol drug use in the work place. It's simply a matter of enforcement and federally mandated if it's a public funded operation and or safety sensitive. It can also be considered a form of work place harassment if the problem persists. Keeping a log of occurrences is evidence of violations and harassment.
Mormons and Muslims look down on you for drinking coffee just as you would look down on someone who is injecting heroin at their desk every half hour. When I'm old and wealthy enough to retire, I'm going to claim that I'm Mormon and the coffee machine offends my religion. I'll take that shit as far as it will go. I will sue for wrongful dismissal if they fire me as a way of silencing me.That includes caffeine too.