AH! New to Red Hat Linux 8.0...

[idNut]

Well, I am simply confused since I'm a hardcore Microsoft fanboy. How on earth do you install things? I am so confused about RPM's and shell directories and stuff. I'm trying to install my ethernet card's drivers (Linux) but all I see are a bunch of files whereas when you click on them bring up C/C++ code. I've tried to read manuals about this but I can't find it anywhere. Could someone please clue me in? A brief run through of the programs and their relation to a Windows application would be appreciated. (I.E. Mozilla = Internet Explorer)

 

[Syran]

Lets start out easy, what network card? And for the most part, I've used Linksys, Netgear, Intel, 3Com, "Cnet", and a cpl of generic nics w/ RH8, and it's always found the card without additional setup.

 

[idNut]

It's an onboard Broadcom.

 

[Syran]

Motherboard Manufacturer and Model #?

 

[idNut]

MSI 648 Max

 

[Spyro]

If you're using mandrake, red hat, or any other rpm based distro, you really shouldn't have many problems with a network card.

Oh well here's a list of programs and their windows equivalents:

Winamp == XMMS
Outlook == Evolution
Microsoft Office == Open Office
Winzip == Ark
Getright == Downloader for X
Photoshop == GIMP
AviPlay, XINE, MPlayer == Windows Media Player
Realplayer == Realplayer
Quanta Plus, Mozilla Composer == Frontpage
Doom == Doom
Wing Commander == Vegastrike

OK, that should be it, but let me know if I've missed something.

 

[Syran]

Looks like it's a known problem with an older kernel in RH Linux.

There are updated RPM's for the kernel here.

Download the appropriate kernel rpm's. (i386, i586, or i686; depending on which one is installed)

Put it on your linux box, run the command

rpm -U kernel-file-name.rpm

Let it install the new kernel, reboot.

 

[idNut]

I can't get on the internet in Red Hat.

 

[Syran]

Download it, burn to cd?

 

[idNut]

I don't understand what I'm doing here. I downloaded kernel-2.4.18-24.7.x.src.rpm (33.7 MB). Now what do I do with it? Do I need anymore files?

 

[Syran]

Download kernel-2.4.18-24.8.0.i386.rpm, kernel-BOOT-2.4.18-24.8.0.i386.rpm, and kernel-doc-2.4.18-24.8.0.i386.rpm.
Burn it to cd

go to the linux box
You will need to either log in as root, or use the "sudo -" command, and type in the root password to get root access
Mount the cdrom using the command: mount /mnt/cdrom
copy the files: cp -var /mnt/cdrom/*.rpm /root
go to the root directory: cd ~
type the following 3 commands (watch case):
rpm -U kernel-2.4.18-24.8.0.i386.rpm
rpm -U Kernel-BOOT-2.4.18-24.8.0.i386.rpm
rpm -U kernel-doc-2.4.18-24.8.0.i386.rpm

Reboot the computer (just use alt-ctrl-del), should find your nic.

if you want to get network access now, just pop a general $5-20 nic you can get at most local computer shops, i'd say 95% or better of most nics will run out of the box easilly; I've had no problems with 3com 905b/c; Netgear 310/311, Intel Pro 100's or many others.

 

[idNut]

Forget this, too difficult.

 

[Farfrael]

I'm a hardcore Microsoft fanboy.

Forget this, too difficult.

... Anybody sees a connection between the two statements ?

If you are too lazy to actually do SOME reading on your own before asking such questions, PLEASE stick with Windows.
You should really avoid using Linux since it actually requires some efforts to understand how things work.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: Farfrael

I'm a hardcore Microsoft fanboy.

Forget this, too difficult.

... Anybody sees a connection between the two statements ?

If you are too lazy to actually do SOME reading on your own before asking such questions, PLEASE stick with Windows.
You should really avoid using Linux since it actually requires some efforts to understand how things work.

It's too hard to actually learn stuff!

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: Farfrael

I'm a hardcore Microsoft fanboy.

Forget this, too difficult.

... Anybody sees a connection between the two statements ?

If you are too lazy to actually do SOME reading on your own before asking such questions, PLEASE stick with Windows.
You should really avoid using Linux since it actually requires some efforts to understand how things work.

Typical response of a hardcore microsft fanboy.

He's completely unable to either appreciate, understand, or follow a list of instructions.

Personally I think that if you're not willing to take the time and google for an answer to your problem, you shouldn't even bother with it

 

[Syran]

*shrugs* i'd hate to see what this guy would have done in the dos days...

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: Syran
*shrugs* i'd hate to see what this guy would have done in the dos days...

 

[N11]

Originally posted by: Syran
Looks like it's a known problem with an older kernel in RH Linux.

There are updated RPM's for the kernel here.

Download the appropriate kernel rpm's. (i386, i586, or i686; depending on which one is installed)

Put it on your linux box, run the command

rpm -U kernel-file-name.rpm

Let it install the new kernel, reboot.

I'd entirely recommend against a -U flag when dealing with a kernel. I'd only use the -i flag.

 

[Vadatajs]

I'd entirely recommend against a -U flag when dealing with a kernel. I'd only use the -i flag.

Not a flame, why? What is the advantage of -i, over -U? I thought you were supposed to use -U if you already have an older version of the same package installed.

 

[Syran]

I've never had to manually do an rpm'd kernel under redhat 8 personally, normally do it thru the update service myself.

 

[Nothinman]

You can have as many kernels installed as you want -U will probably replace your current kernel with the new one, while -i will install thet new one beside the original. Keeping a known-booting kernel around is always a good idea.

 

[ProviaFan]

Real men compile kernels.

 

[cleverhandle]

Originally posted by: jliechty
Real men compile kernels.

...and break lots of RPM dependencies doing so.

Kernel package management under RPM is just a PITA. I go the compiling route also, and just force through packages where I know that the kernel dependency is satisfied, but that's not really a great solution. Debian, for all my other complaints about it, does have a much cleaner solution for kernel packaging.

edit: typo

 

[lowtech1]

Forget the full Linux install if you find it dificult. Go for Knoppix that run great from a CD or full install on your hard drive in no time.

 

[stspad]

next time look and see if your hardware is supported ;p