ahh bacon

alyarb

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I just found out that filet mignon contains more than double the cholesterol, double the fat, and double the calories per ounce than bacon. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like bacon is always regarded as some forbidden fruit because it will guarantee one's obesity. it clearly isn't true especially when you note that obese people are indiscriminately addicted to food. i think i'm going to cut back on the filets and incorporate more bacon into my recipes, we'll see how fat i get. oh yeah and i'm 5'8" ~130-35 lb.

i'm also looking at the chicken breasts i had tonight and it appears I'm looking at

28.33 mg/oz of cholesterol
33.33 Cal/oz
0.666 g/oz of total fat. pretty lean there, but what's up with the cholesterol? I thought bacon was the devil's food.

bacon is 9.375 mg/oz of cholesterol, 27.5 Cal/oz, 2 g total fat per ounce.
 
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Dietary cholesterol affects blood cholesterol levels very little so that's a poor indicator of the healthiness of a food. There have been a lot of studies lately that have pretty much exonerated dietary cholesterol as a large effector of serum cholesterol. Saturated fat is really the main effector of serum cholesterol. One's serum cholesterol levels, depending on one's lifestyle, really could mean nothing.

Personally, I've met people with high natural cholesterol levels having been vegetarians most of their lives. They also had very clean arteries. I eat bacon nearly every day. I also exercise, take in high levels of raw foods (beans, legumes, fruits, veggies), and drink copious amounts of tea. My cholesterol is within the healthy limits so much that I was accepted into a study in which any sort of hyperlipidemia or high cholerstol would have gotten me rejected. Honestly, the "everything in moderation" clause needs to come in here because bacon sure as hell does not make someone fat and unhealthy. Six pieces of bacon plus 5 eggs plus pancakes and syrup with 3 cups of coffee and gritz makes those people unhealthy often times.
 

Kipper

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RELAX.

To add a couple of things to what SociallyChallenged said...

You should be aware that there is a subset of the population which for genetic reasons reacts completely out of whack with dietary cholesterol. Just the same, there are people whose cholesterol doesn't budge even if they have a dozen eggs a day. But if you are one of them, you probably know already.

...I'm not sure where you are getting your nutritional information from but filet mignon is one of the most tender but also most lean parts of the cow...it's part of the tenderloin. Nutrition facts for both are below, and I assure you that bacon is significantly more calorific than filet mignon...although it does matter how much you cook bacon (crispy or soft) and how it is served (i.e. drained or not). Needless to say, it is not a "devil food."

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/beef-products/3781/2
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/pork-products/7356/2

And your BMI is slightly under 21. You're far from overweight based on this metric alone (obviously, it's just one metric). In fact, because BMI @ 22 is associated with the least incidence of chronic disease, you are in the perfect range as far as BMI is concerned.

Edit: Thinking over this a bit more...troll?
 

alyarb

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Originally posted by: Kipper
RELAX.

To add a couple of things to what SociallyChallenged said...

You should be aware that there is a subset of the population which for genetic reasons reacts completely out of whack with dietary cholesterol. Just the same, there are people whose cholesterol doesn't budge even if they have a dozen eggs a day. But if you are one of them, you probably know already.

...I'm not sure where you are getting your nutritional information from but filet mignon is one of the most tender but also most lean parts of the cow...it's part of the tenderloin. Nutrition facts for both are below, and I assure you that bacon is significantly more calorific than filet mignon...although it does matter how much you cook bacon (crispy or soft) and how it is served (i.e. drained or not). Needless to say, it is not a "devil food."

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/beef-products/3781/2
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/pork-products/7356/2

And your BMI is slightly under 21. You're far from overweight based on this metric alone (obviously, it's just one metric). In fact, because BMI @ 22 is associated with the least incidence of chronic disease, you are in the perfect range as far as BMI is concerned.

Edit: Thinking over this a bit more...troll?

i think if you look at the data per ounce rather than per serving you'll see where i got my info. I was using nutritiondata for the tenderloin but I used the nutrition facts printed on the back of the bacon packaging, which implies 440 calories per pound = 27.5 Cal/oz. Does frying bacon increase that number by 500%?
 

alyarb

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i dont know anyone who even sells a filet with solid fat around the edge. Even so, they claim 58 Cal/oz. Still double what's on the bacon package.
 

mchammer187

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I am pretty sure the data on the package is giving you numbers based on the raw weight

1 lb of bacon yield's probably 7 oz of meat once you cook it so

whats important is the ratio of protein to carb to fat

for the filent it is 8 to 3 protein to fat and the calorie composition is 60% protein to 40% fat calories a little high on fat but certainly not terrible for you

I would be surprised if the fat calorie % is less than 50% unless you are talking about turkey bacon or something like that

 

Kipper

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Originally posted by: alyarb

i think if you look at the data per ounce rather than per serving you'll see where i got my info. I was using nutritiondata for the tenderloin but I used the nutrition facts printed on the back of the bacon packaging, which implies 440 calories per pound = 27.5 Cal/oz. Does frying bacon increase that number by 500%?

The package indicates the uncooked calorie count - i.e. as it is in the package. If you cook the bacon much of the fat will come off, and consequently the calories will drop. More so if you blot the bacon on some paper towels, like most people do.
 

InflatableBuddha

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Originally posted by: Kipper
Originally posted by: alyarb

i think if you look at the data per ounce rather than per serving you'll see where i got my info. I was using nutritiondata for the tenderloin but I used the nutrition facts printed on the back of the bacon packaging, which implies 440 calories per pound = 27.5 Cal/oz. Does frying bacon increase that number by 500%?

The package indicates the uncooked calorie count - i.e. as it is in the package. If you cook the bacon much of the fat will come off, and consequently the calories will drop. More so if you blot the bacon on some paper towels, like most people do.

And of course, if you drain off the fat after cooking and discard it.

Bacon in moderation is not bad. My only concern is the nitrates (I believe this is a concern with pork and ham too), so that's my main reason for limiting my pig meat consumption.

 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
Originally posted by: Kipper
Originally posted by: alyarb

i think if you look at the data per ounce rather than per serving you'll see where i got my info. I was using nutritiondata for the tenderloin but I used the nutrition facts printed on the back of the bacon packaging, which implies 440 calories per pound = 27.5 Cal/oz. Does frying bacon increase that number by 500%?

The package indicates the uncooked calorie count - i.e. as it is in the package. If you cook the bacon much of the fat will come off, and consequently the calories will drop. More so if you blot the bacon on some paper towels, like most people do.

And of course, if you drain off the fat after cooking and discard it.

Bacon in moderation is not bad. My only concern is the nitrates (I believe this is a concern with pork and ham too), so that's my main reason for limiting my pig meat consumption.

sodium is a big issue too
 

InflatableBuddha

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Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
Originally posted by: Kipper
Originally posted by: alyarb

i think if you look at the data per ounce rather than per serving you'll see where i got my info. I was using nutritiondata for the tenderloin but I used the nutrition facts printed on the back of the bacon packaging, which implies 440 calories per pound = 27.5 Cal/oz. Does frying bacon increase that number by 500%?

The package indicates the uncooked calorie count - i.e. as it is in the package. If you cook the bacon much of the fat will come off, and consequently the calories will drop. More so if you blot the bacon on some paper towels, like most people do.

And of course, if you drain off the fat after cooking and discard it.

Bacon in moderation is not bad. My only concern is the nitrates (I believe this is a concern with pork and ham too), so that's my main reason for limiting my pig meat consumption.

sodium is a big issue too

LOL, yea that too!
 

HannibalX

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Real, smoked bacon from the butcher > Nasty, shrink wrapped, brined bacon from the super market.
 

Kipper

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Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
Bacon in moderation is not bad. My only concern is the nitrates (I believe this is a concern with pork and ham too), so that's my main reason for limiting my pig meat consumption.

Nitrates are in most processed meats, largely regardless of the meat itself - (deli meats, sausage, etc), not necessarily pork by itself (i.e. pork chops). Of course, a lot of pork products are processed so it might as well be. Interestingly, nitrates can also be found in beer. They are pretty much ubiquitous.

It might be advisable to moderate pork intake regardless, since there are a ton of studies out there associating red meat with a number of cancers.
 

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I'm having a heart attack just looking at the pictures of this masterpiece.
 
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Originally posted by: Kipper
Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
Bacon in moderation is not bad. My only concern is the nitrates (I believe this is a concern with pork and ham too), so that's my main reason for limiting my pig meat consumption.

Nitrates are in most processed meats, largely regardless of the meat itself - (deli meats, sausage, etc), not necessarily pork by itself (i.e. pork chops). Of course, a lot of pork products are processed so it might as well be. Interestingly, nitrates can also be found in beer. They are pretty much ubiquitous.

It might be advisable to moderate pork intake regardless, since there are a ton of studies out there associating red meat with a number of cancers.

Or to balance your diet with a healthy amount of antioxidants... I find that route the more enjoyable one.
 
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