Ahhhhhhhhh! Nerdgasm!!!

[tential]

If all they do is provide a heat load for his water loop, that's justification enough in my book

Lol is there a person here who wouldn't b excited to play with 3 of the fastest gpu out there.?

 

[YBS1]

I'm curious... What will these 24 billion transistors be doing?

Honestly? The most intense workout my Classifieds have seen lately is some lengthy bouts of Beware Planet Earth (kind of a Plants vs. Zombies knock off). I haven't really played much of anything lately though I did buy and briefly tryout Witcher 3 and Project Cars when they were on sale through Steam earlier this week. I'll probably get back into Black Ops with my little boy I guess when it releases, I downloaded the beta but couldn't even get excited enough to launch it once.

I don't know about anyone else in here but I go through alternating spurts of being more interested in playing with hardware, then games, lately it's been hardware. Truth be told I guess whatever is going on in the children's lives at the moment influences it a lot though, right now he has football practice a lot through the week so we don't get to play much together on the PC as it's generally homework, shower, bed after that. Once that is over time constraints will ease up some.

 

[Sabrewings]

Lol is there a person here who wouldn't b excited to play with 3 of the fastest gpu out there.?

Play with is one thing, but I can't imagine buying that sort of GPU power without a specific workload in mind, especially with the diminishing returns of scaling after two GPUs.

I don't know about anyone else in here but I go through alternating spurts of being more interested in playing with hardware, then games, lately it's been hardware. Truth be told I guess whatever is going on in the children's lives at the moment influences it a lot though, right now he has football practice a lot through the week so we don't get to play much together on the PC as it's generally homework, shower, bed after that. Once that is over time constraints will ease up some.

I understand, believe me. Full time job, full time student, and still have to find time for the wife, mountain biking, and game time. The hardware is fun in itself and I felt the same way when I first put the rig in my sig together over the summer. Eventually I got back into actually playing games on it instead of just watching it flex its muscle.

The reason I asked about the workload is I was curious how you would use them. I have my single 980 Ti on water and it's more than enough for what I use it for. I even run DSR at max with it just to make sure I get my money's worth out of it. So, it's interesting to me what people do with their hardware. Though, once VR hits next year I'll be wanting only the best experience so I'll be looking at getting a 14/16nm car to replace it and hand it down to the wife's (my old) pc. (That way she can be my gunner in Star Citizen. Currently it only has a DX10 GPU which is below SC's requirements).

 

[YBS1]

I love the way you plan on controlling the fans and pumps. That sounds like the most legit way to do it. Does increasing flow help the CPU temp though? Or was that just a fancy and sweet way to control pump speed?

It was just the best way to control the pumps, though I do imagine up to a certain flow rate it will in fact lower temperatures. I've not done any testing to determine if my flow rate ever drops low enough at it's lowest setting to actually benefit from the increase when under load. I simply arrived at the pump speed settings I'm currently using due to the pumps being the most noticeable noise producing item in the case when they are near 100% (while not gaming anyway which makes the Classified fans spin up).

I didn't used to be one of those people who was hyper sensitive to noisy PCs, when I first assembled this Case Labs build and I was still using it for the 3930K the Sabertooth's pwm control did not get along with the particular fans/splitters/whatever I was using so the fans all ran at 100% for the few months I was using it before moving to the 5960X. Let me tell you....15+ fans running at 100% sitting 2ft away from you for over a month will change your opinion quick. That's why I've went to the more is better approach on the radiators, the more radiator capacity I can have the less I have to work those stupid fans. I guess I will be sitting at ~24 fans in the system when I'm done, all of them dialed back as low as they will go on the pwm controls (at least while the water temperatures stay near ambient).

I can't wait to see where those HOFs end up at as far as clock speed is concerned, and I'm curious about how your CPU does and how your temps all balance out.

Well, funny that you mention that because I had mentioned planning on going dual loop over in your long running thread. I didn't want one's heat output affecting the other, I thought about that and it dawned on me, why would I half that massive amount of radiator capacity between the various components? It's actually pretty rare to have your CPU and GPUs truly both going full tilt at the same time, occasionally in games, but even then most games won't take advantage of all eight cores and the full load isn't going to last very long. I decided to stick with the single loop as it will vastly simplify reservoir filling, both can benefit from the radiator overcapacity I should have, and the GPUs will still have the added safety of pump redundancy. I still went ahead with adding the third pump though as I wanted to be sure to maintain the nice head pressure I had (it's almost certainly overkill but heck, if one of the three dies I probably won't even notice).

 

[moonbogg]

Lol is there a person here who wouldn't b excited to play with 3 of the fastest gpu out there.?

Precisely. Although I find it funny that buying three 980ti's is indeed a legit enthusiast purchase, while buying even a single Titan is considered foolish. :awe:

Actually I need to refine the logic here.

Buying two 980tis is a legit purchase (because that's what I did of course)
Buying three 980ti's is pushing it (because I can't afford three of course)
Buying a single Titan is foolish

 

[YBS1]

Play with is one thing, but I can't imagine buying that sort of GPU power without a specific workload in mind, especially with the diminishing returns of scaling after two GPUs.

Want me to piss you and a whole bunch of other people off???
It will be pushing 1080P.... lolololololol, nanernanernaner!







For real though, I would very much like to have a 34" 21:9 curved, 3440 x 1440 screen. TN or IPS doesn't matter but I have to have 120 or 144Hz (possibly I'd try if one came along at 100Hz). It just doesn't exist yet, we are making progress though.

 

[Sabrewings]

It was just the best way to control the pumps, though I do imagine up to a certain flow rate it will in fact lower temperatures. I've not done any testing to determine if my flow rate ever drops low enough at it's lowest setting to actually benefit from the increase when under load. I simply arrived at the pump speed settings I'm currently using due to the pumps being the most noticeable noise producing item in the case when they are near 100% (while not gaming anyway which makes the Classified fans spin up).

I didn't use to be one of those people who was hyper sensitive to noisy PCs, when I first assembled this Case Labs build and I was still using it for the 3930K the Sabertooth's pwm control did not get along with the particular fans/splitters/whatever I was using so the fans all ran at 100% for the few months I was using it before moving to the 5960X. Let me tell you....15+ fans running at 100% sitting 2ft away from you for over a month will change your opinion quick. That's why I've went to the more is better approach on the radiators, the more radiator capacity I can have the less I have to work those stupid fans. I guess I will be sitting at ~24 fans in the system when I'm done, all of them dialed back as low as they will go on the pwm controls (at least while not under any serious load).

That's similar to how my fans operate now. I run them off CPU temp, and when below 40C (idle is about 30C) fans are just above their stall speed (about 30% PWM). They gradually increase with temp until 100% at 70C on the CPU socket. Never goes that high, though. I usually don't see over 50C and they're at about 70% at that speed. GPU never goes above 40C. Not too loud. For reference, I have 8x120mm fans and 1x140mm.

My pump operates full speed all the time. It's a Laing DDC on a proper isolating bracket. Whisper quiet. Even without the bracket, I hardly ever noticed the Laing DDC (actually, Swtiftech MCP355 rebrand on that one) in my old build and it was just screwed to a case mount.

Want me to piss you and a whole bunch of other people off???
It will be pushing 1080P.... lolololololol, nanernanernaner!

Me too. :biggrin:

 

[YBS1]

Precisely. Although I find it funny that buying three 980ti's is indeed a legit enthusiast purchase, while buying even a single Titan is considered foolish. :awe:

Actually I need to refine the logic here.

Buying two 980tis is a legit purchase (because that's what I did of course)
Buying three 980ti's is pushing it (because I can't afford three of course)
Buying a single Titan is foolish

I was actually going to purchase Hydrocopper Titan X's a while back but the price gouging was stupid retarded and it pissed me off to the point I just didn't do it. Then a bit later they previewed these and I drooled. They eventually turned out stupid overpriced too, oh well I least I wasn't quite as upset as they look super cool.

 

[MrTeal]

Out of curiosity, what are you using for a fan controller to read the water temperature?
I'm thinking about adding one to my rig as my MB only has two PWM headers and I'd like three to control the pump, 6x140mm fans and 7x120mm fans with different profiles. I make up a little circuit to convert the system fan header into a pump control, but just having something standard would be nice. Having the extra analog inputs for temp sensors would be a bonus.

 

[YBS1]

My pump operates full speed all the time. It's a Laing DDC on a proper isolating bracket. Whisper quiet. Even without the bracket, I hardly ever noticed the Laing DDC (actually, Swtiftech MCP355 rebrand on that one) in my old build and it was just screwed to a case mount.

It wasn't a vibration noise that was annoying, it's either a hydro or electrical whirling noise that I was picking up and found offensive above a certain level. I'd have to check but I think my pumps sit at ~45ish% at idle like temperatures and ramp up slowly from there.

 

[YBS1]

Out of curiosity, what are you using for a fan controller to read the water temperature?
I'm thinking about adding one to my rig as my MB only has two PWM headers and I'd like three to control the pump, 6x140mm fans and 7x120mm fans with different profiles. I make up a little circuit to convert the system fan header into a pump control, but just having something standard would be nice. Having the extra analog inputs for temp sensors would be a bonus.

The Rampage has standard two prong auxiliary temperature inputs available for use with inline temp probe compression fittings and such. Right now my fans are controlled via PWM according to CPU temp, but I can read my water temp off my Swiftech Maelstrom reservoir sensor. After this rebuild they will be controlled by water temperature.

Such as these, there are others.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/phob...in-line-2x-g1-4-inner-thread-matte-black.html
http://www.performance-pcs.com/bitspower-g-1-4-deluxe-white-temperature-sensor-stop-fitting.html

I've not used it but they say this thing is awesome, and sounds like about what you're after coupled with the above and some Swiftech 8 way pwm splitters maybe.

 

[MrTeal]

Yeah, I've got oodles of the Swiftech splitters laying around so I've been using those to control each bank of fans.

It'll probably leave it alone until I actually boot the system and see how things work just using Speedfan. Ideally I'd like to control pump speed in GPM (I have a flow sensor) and fan speed using both the GPU and CPU temperatures, but that might be a bit of a challenge.

Anyway, no more derailing for me. Nice cards.

 

[Grooveriding]

Man, those are some nice looking cards. I have a black/white theme in my rig as well. You know you want to trade two of those for my Classifieds :hmm:

 

[YBS1]

I don't mind the derailing, a bunch of us were constantly talking about random stuff in moonbogg's cooling thread and it was one of the better threads in memory.

 

[YBS1]

Man, those are some nice looking cards. I have a black/white theme in my rig as well. You know you want to trade two of those for my Classifieds :hmm:

Just lend me one of those Classifieds and we'll sit this thing in the 3DMark HOF top ten...I'll put your name in the comments.

 

[at80eighty]

thats so sick. wow.

 

[moonbogg]

I was actually going to purchase Hydrocopper Titan X's a while back but the price gouging was stupid retarded and it pissed me off to the point I just didn't do it. Then a bit later they previewed these and I drooled. They eventually turned out stupid overpriced too, oh well I least I wasn't quite as upset as they look super cool.

You bought the most awesome looking Maxwell cards I've ever seen. Regret isn't possible. If you sense regret approaching, just look through that side window and it will instantly be all good.

 

[guskline]

YBS1 GREAT thread. I can't wait till the new Beast is built. Gotta give us pics!

 

[moonbogg]

Its all coming back to me now with more clarity. This is your big project that you were talking about in my cooling thread. I went back to read what you said about it. I was too self absorbed during that time to connect the dots, but now we get to see what you've been up to! BRING IT ON! :twisted:

 

[tential]

Want me to piss you and a whole bunch of other people off???
It will be pushing 1080P.... lolololololol, nanernanernaner!







For real though, I would very much like to have a 34" 21:9 curved, 3440 x 1440 screen. TN or IPS doesn't matter but I have to have 120 or 144Hz (possibly I'd try if one came along at 100Hz). It just doesn't exist yet, we are making progress though.

I didn't buy 3 980Ti. I bought 32 (soon to be 42) TB worth of HDD space. I'm sure we've all bought things we didn't need and we could have instead bought 3 980Ti. I don't think it's an unreasonable purchase at all if it's what you want and you can afford it.

Not everything is Price/Performance. If that's what you care about then of course go by that metric.

Otherwise, if you've got money to spend and you want to enjoy it, enjoy it. That's the point of money!

Excited for you though. You bought your gear before your screen is released. I'm waiting for my screen to be released, then getting the gear I need, or just adding another R9 290 as I already got one in anticipation of 4K just in case.

 

[moonbogg]

Acer has a 100hz 3440x1440 doohickey coming out. Snatch that one up.

 

[YBS1]

I didn't buy 3 980Ti. I bought 32 (soon to be 42) TB worth of HDD space. I'm sure we've all bought things we didn't need and we could have instead bought 3 980Ti. I don't think it's an unreasonable purchase at all if it's what you want and you can afford it.

Wow! Is that 42TB all in one setup or spread out? I don't think I have 42TB (or 32 even) of active storage space spread out amongst all of my devices. My WHS is 12 I think, nothing else is even close to that.

 

[YBS1]

Acer has a 100hz 3440x1440 doohickey coming out. Snatch that one up.

The Acer Predator XR341CK was originally hyped as a 144Hz exactly like I wanted but it turned out to only be 75Hz. I was disappoint.
You have a link?

 

[tential]

Wow! Is that 42TB all in one setup or spread out? I don't think I have 42TB (or 32 even) of active storage space spread out amongst all of my devices. My WHS is 12 I think, nothing else is even close to that.

All in one setup. My UNRAID server.

I've been working on setting up an "ultimate" entertainment system for myself.

So the vast majority of Movies/TV is on my server.
Projector for movies.
Gaming Rig for games (With Emulators setup, Dolphin Emulator even has the Wii Sensor Bar setup above the Projector Screen soon so I can play Super Mario Galaxy 2 and not just Fire Emblem).

And I'm adding a "Gaming" Monitor so I can stop using my projector and use Freesync.
Then going to add a custom bedframe to my bed so I can angle myself to the Monitor and have something at my back for using the monitor vs the projector.

The vast majority of what we're doing on here is considered "Overkill" by someone out there. The great part about PC gaming, the part I love the most, is flexibility. It may cost more, but we can get what we want out of our systems usually.

I'm upset ASRock released a Mini ITX X99 board. Because now that MiniITX and HEDT are coming together I will build a Mini ITX HEDT platform rig. Skylake-E, Kayblake-E, or Cannonlake-E will be for that.

DSR maxed out with every single setting maxed out on a Tri 980Ti setup sounds exciting.

In fact, you can DSR from higher than 4K right? So even more interesting. I was upset to find that 4k is the limit for the Fury X. Just lol. So Crossfire Fury X and you're stuck at 4K? That's boring. After I saw those 8K bioshock shots, I thought Fury X had downsampling from 8K. Pretty sure Nvidia DSR can go that high. Not that it'd ever be useful to use it probably but flexibility is so much fun!

 

[YBS1]

All in one setup. My UNRAID server.

I've been working on setting up an "ultimate" entertainment system for myself.

So the vast majority of Movies/TV is on my server.
Projector for movies.
Gaming Rig for games (With Emulators setup, Dolphin Emulator even has the Wii Sensor Bar setup above the Projector Screen soon so I can play Super Mario Galaxy 2 and not just Fire Emblem).

And I'm adding a "Gaming" Monitor so I can stop using my projector and use Freesync.
Then going to add a custom bedframe to my bed so I can angle myself to the Monitor and have something at my back for using the monitor vs the projector.

Insane stuff! That's what the primary use of my WHS is, I didn't like finding the kids dvds and blu rays, so every TV in the house has a WD box and all their movies are on the server. So it's a couple of clicks and done, no matter where. I keep my steam game backups on it as well so I don't have to redownload everything anytime something happens.

I'm upset ASRock released a Mini ITX X99 board. Because now that MiniITX and HEDT are coming together I will build a Mini ITX HEDT platform rig. Skylake-E, Kayblake-E, or Cannonlake-E will be for that.

Speaking of....Had ASRock announced/released that board prior to me ordering this Case Labs Mercury S8 this thread wouldn't be happening. I ordered one of the original run NCase M1 mini-itx cases, I had every intention of being done with any sort of monster build from then on. I was going to go simple, small, effective. At the time the plan was to build a 4770K on an Asus ROG mini-itx board, with a top of the line videocard and cool it with simple Corsair AIO. I drug my feet a bit after getting the case and X99 was officially announced, I kind of wondered if an X99 mini-itx was a possibility, brought it up in a thread and someone responded "not likely due to X99 being quad channel", which I hadn't even considered but it made sense. Sometime after that I happen to run across a forum thread somewhere showing off a CL Mercury S8, my jaw dropped and I was bitten with the "gotta have it" itch, so here we are.