AIG exec resignation letter

SAWYER

Lifer
Apr 27, 2000
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03...antis.html?ref=opinion
DEAR Mr. Liddy,

It is with deep regret that I submit my notice of resignation from A.I.G. Financial Products. I hope you take the time to read this entire letter. Before describing the details of my decision, I want to offer some context:

I am proud of everything I have done for the commodity and equity divisions of A.I.G.-F.P. I was in no way involved in ? or responsible for ? the credit default swap transactions that have hamstrung A.I.G. Nor were more than a handful of the 400 current employees of A.I.G.-F.P. Most of those responsible have left the company and have conspicuously escaped the public outrage.

After 12 months of hard work dismantling the company ? during which A.I.G. reassured us many times we would be rewarded in March 2009 ? we in the financial products unit have been betrayed by A.I.G. and are being unfairly persecuted by elected officials. In response to this, I will now leave the company and donate my entire post-tax retention payment to those suffering from the global economic downturn. My intent is to keep none of the money myself.

I take this action after 11 years of dedicated, honorable service to A.I.G. I can no longer effectively perform my duties in this dysfunctional environment, nor am I being paid to do so. Like you, I was asked to work for an annual salary of $1, and I agreed out of a sense of duty to the company and to the public officials who have come to its aid. Having now been let down by both, I can no longer justify spending 10, 12, 14 hours a day away from my family for the benefit of those who have let me down.

You and I have never met or spoken to each other, so I?d like to tell you about myself. I was raised by schoolteachers working multiple jobs in a world of closing steel mills. My hard work earned me acceptance to M.I.T., and the institute?s generous financial aid enabled me to attend. I had fulfilled my American dream.

I started at this company in 1998 as an equity trader, became the head of equity and commodity trading and, a couple of years before A.I.G.?s meltdown last September, was named the head of business development for commodities. Over this period the equity and commodity units were consistently profitable ? in most years generating net profits of well over $100 million. Most recently, during the dismantling of A.I.G.-F.P., I was an integral player in the pending sale of its well-regarded commodity index business to UBS. As you know, business unit sales like this are crucial to A.I.G.?s effort to repay the American taxpayer.

The profitability of the businesses with which I was associated clearly supported my compensation. I never received any pay resulting from the credit default swaps that are now losing so much money. I did, however, like many others here, lose a significant portion of my life savings in the form of deferred compensation invested in the capital of A.I.G.-F.P. because of those losses. In this way I have personally suffered from this controversial activity ? directly as well as indirectly with the rest of the taxpayers.

I have the utmost respect for the civic duty that you are now performing at A.I.G. You are as blameless for these credit default swap losses as I am. You answered your country?s call and you are taking a tremendous beating for it.

But you also are aware that most of the employees of your financial products unit had nothing to do with the large losses. And I am disappointed and frustrated over your lack of support for us. I and many others in the unit feel betrayed that you failed to stand up for us in the face of untrue and unfair accusations from certain members of Congress last Wednesday and from the press over our retention payments, and that you didn?t defend us against the baseless and reckless comments made by the attorneys general of New York and Connecticut.


My guess is that in October, when you learned of these retention contracts, you realized that the employees of the financial products unit needed some incentive to stay and that the contracts, being both ethical and useful, should be left to stand. That?s probably why A.I.G. management assured us on three occasions during that month that the company would ?live up to its commitment? to honor the contract guarantees.

That may be why you decided to accelerate by three months more than a quarter of the amounts due under the contracts. That action signified to us your support, and was hardly something that one would do if he truly found the contracts ?distasteful.?

That may also be why you authorized the balance of the payments on March 13.

At no time during the past six months that you have been leading A.I.G. did you ask us to revise, renegotiate or break these contracts ? until several hours before your appearance last week before Congress.

I think your initial decision to honor the contracts was both ethical and financially astute, but it seems to have been politically unwise. It?s now apparent that you either misunderstood the agreements that you had made ? tacit or otherwise ? with the Federal Reserve, the Treasury, various members of Congress and Attorney General Andrew Cuomo of New York, or were not strong enough to withstand the shifting political winds.

You?ve now asked the current employees of A.I.G.-F.P. to repay these earnings. As you can imagine, there has been a tremendous amount of serious thought and heated discussion about how we should respond to this breach of trust.

As most of us have done nothing wrong, guilt is not a motivation to surrender our earnings. We have worked 12 long months under these contracts and now deserve to be paid as promised. None of us should be cheated of our payments any more than a plumber should be cheated after he has fixed the pipes but a careless electrician causes a fire that burns down the house.

Many of the employees have, in the past six months, turned down job offers from more stable employers, based on A.I.G.?s assurances that the contracts would be honored. They are now angry about having been misled by A.I.G.?s promises and are not inclined to return the money as a favor to you.

The only real motivation that anyone at A.I.G.-F.P. now has is fear. Mr. Cuomo has threatened to ?name and shame,? and his counterpart in Connecticut, Richard Blumenthal, has made similar threats ? even though attorneys general are supposed to stand for due process, to conduct trials in courts and not the press.

So what am I to do? There?s no easy answer. I know that because of hard work I have benefited more than most during the economic boom and have saved enough that my family is unlikely to suffer devastating losses during the current bust. Some might argue that members of my profession have been overpaid, and I wouldn?t disagree.

That is why I have decided to donate 100 percent of the effective after-tax proceeds of my retention payment directly to organizations that are helping people who are suffering from the global downturn. This is not a tax-deduction gimmick; I simply believe that I at least deserve to dictate how my earnings are spent, and do not want to see them disappear back into the obscurity of A.I.G.?s or the federal government?s budget. Our earnings have caused such a distraction for so many from the more pressing issues our country faces, and I would like to see my share of it benefit those truly in need.

On March 16 I received a payment from A.I.G. amounting to $742,006.40, after taxes. In light of the uncertainty over the ultimate taxation and legal status of this payment, the actual amount I donate may be less ? in fact, it may end up being far less if the recent House bill raising the tax on the retention payments to 90 percent stands. Once all the money is donated, you will immediately receive a list of all recipients.

This choice is right for me. I wish others at A.I.G.-F.P. luck finding peace with their difficult decision, and only hope their judgment is not clouded by fear.

Mr. Liddy, I wish you success in your commitment to return the money extended by the American government, and luck with the continued unwinding of the company?s diverse businesses ? especially those remaining credit default swaps. I?ll continue over the short term to help make sure no balls are dropped, but after what?s happened this past week I can?t remain much longer ? there is too much bad blood. I?m not sure how you will greet my resignation, but at least Attorney General Blumenthal should be relieved that I?ll leave under my own power and will not need to be ?shoved out the door.?

Sincerely,

Jake DeSantis


This letter is a nice pov from someone that is a target of the witchhunt
 

JACKDRUID

Senior member
Nov 28, 2007
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pathetic.

$742,006.40 is not a payment from A.I.G, its a payment from us. Its not "donated", its giving back rightfully.

we really need to hang these dumb ass AIG execs.
 
Dec 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: Sawyer

This letter is a nice pov from someone that is a target of the witchhunt

Ed Liddy is also a target of said witchhunt.

He was asked to step in and lead AIG, which he did. Now everybody blames him for where AIG is at right now. The public needs to get a clue. Politically Liddy was wrong to honor those contracts, but from a non-politically, emotionally charged, standpoint (i.e. business stance) he made the right choice to honor them.

The issue is that the people that fucked the company over made those contracts before Liddy took over, and because of this Liddy was bound to honor them. I believe that as a condition of the governments money, that all previous agreements made are open to be revised/amended at a later date. I believe the issue here is the GOVERNMENT, and the PREVIOUS execs. If the government had required all contracts, like the bonus money, were no longer "set in stone" and could be revised later it would have been a better choice. Liddy was asked to take over a company that was/is in really bad shape, so lay off him for previous mistakes made by the company.

Then again, I'm of the mindset that we shouldn't have stepped in and given them money let alone bonus checks. The talent that is at the company would be employed elsewhere, and allow other companies to take AIG's place. Just my $.02
 
Dec 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: JACKDRUID
pathetic.

$742,006.40 is not a payment from A.I.G, its a payment from us. Its not "donated", its giving back rightfully.

we really need to hang these dumb ass AIG execs.

You either don't know how business works, or don't care to find out some facts.

Bandwagon FTL
 

Balt

Lifer
Mar 12, 2000
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482
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Regardless of how productive his sector of the company may have been, he'd still have been out of a job without the government's bailout. While I can understand his frustration at being persecuted even though he isn't part of the dirty underbelly, you have to accept a certain amount of responsibility even for things which aren't entirely your fault when you are part of a failed organization.

He was still better off after government intervention than before it. At least he got the choice to quit his job rather than simply being laid off or fired.

 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
34,018
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Originally posted by: JACKDRUID
pathetic.

$742,006.40 is not a payment from A.I.G, its a payment from us. Its not "donated", its giving back rightfully.

we really need to hang these dumb ass AIG execs.

I would hang the witch hunters before the witch.
 

JACKDRUID

Senior member
Nov 28, 2007
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Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: JACKDRUID
pathetic.

$742,006.40 is not a payment from A.I.G, its a payment from us. Its not "donated", its giving back rightfully.

we really need to hang these dumb ass AIG execs.

You either don't know how business works, or don't care to find out some facts.

Bandwagon FTL

A.I.G. business doesn't work, so nothing applies.

fact? the fact is, these people won't have a job let along the bonuses had government not paid A.I.G.

they should be grateful still being employeed. they definately don't deserve bonuses.
 

SAWYER

Lifer
Apr 27, 2000
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Would you say the same about our professional crooks, err politicians in Washington that give themselves raises?
 

Gunslinger08

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Balt
Regardless of how productive his sector of the company may have been, he'd still have been out of a job without the government's bailout. While I can understand his frustration at being persecuted even though he isn't part of the dirty underbelly, you have to accept a certain amount of responsibility even for things which aren't entirely your fault when you are part of a failed organization.

He was still better off after government intervention than before it. At least he got the choice to quit his job rather than simply being laid off or fired.

Did you read the letter? He's working 50-60 hours a week for $1 a year. How is he better off not being fired? 60 hours a week for health insurance isn't exactly worth it.
 

MonkeyK

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May 27, 2001
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How many executive VPs does AIG have that this guy never met the CEO?
Usually there are not very many executive VPs.
 

MonkeyK

Golden Member
May 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Balt
Regardless of how productive his sector of the company may have been, he'd still have been out of a job without the government's bailout. While I can understand his frustration at being persecuted even though he isn't part of the dirty underbelly, you have to accept a certain amount of responsibility even for things which aren't entirely your fault when you are part of a failed organization.

He was still better off after government intervention than before it. At least he got the choice to quit his job rather than simply being laid off or fired.

Did you read the letter? He's working 50-60 hours a week for $1 a year. How is he better off not being fired? 60 hours a week for health insurance isn't exactly worth it.

Clearly he was not under the impression that he was working for $1/year.

 

Balt

Lifer
Mar 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Balt
Regardless of how productive his sector of the company may have been, he'd still have been out of a job without the government's bailout. While I can understand his frustration at being persecuted even though he isn't part of the dirty underbelly, you have to accept a certain amount of responsibility even for things which aren't entirely your fault when you are part of a failed organization.

He was still better off after government intervention than before it. At least he got the choice to quit his job rather than simply being laid off or fired.

Did you read the letter? He's working 50-60 hours a week for $1 a year. How is he better off not being fired? 60 hours a week for health insurance isn't exactly worth it.

He has a choice, doesn't he? He can either choose to stick it out with the company and hope things work out or he can seek his employment elsewhere. Since he said he intends to donate a $700k+ check to charity, I think he can afford either of those two options.

People expect everyone at GM to make sacrifices, regardless of whether they were employed in a profitable sector of the company. Why? Because if they don't make sacrifices, everyone is going to be out of a job.

I'm sorry that the AIG exec feels like he's not going to be getting what he is owed, but if he is unwilling to make sacrifices when average citizens who earn far less are making them then that's on him.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: JACKDRUID
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: JACKDRUID
pathetic.

$742,006.40 is not a payment from A.I.G, its a payment from us. Its not "donated", its giving back rightfully.

we really need to hang these dumb ass AIG execs.

You either don't know how business works, or don't care to find out some facts.

Bandwagon FTL

A.I.G. business doesn't work, so nothing applies.

fact? the fact is, these people won't have a job let along the bonuses had government not paid A.I.G.

they should be grateful still being employeed. they definately don't deserve bonuses.

Grateful for being employed for $1 a year?
 

ProfJohn

Lifer
Jul 28, 2006
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Originally posted by: JACKDRUID
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
Originally posted by: JACKDRUID
pathetic.

$742,006.40 is not a payment from A.I.G, its a payment from us. Its not "donated", its giving back rightfully.

we really need to hang these dumb ass AIG execs.

You either don't know how business works, or don't care to find out some facts.

Bandwagon FTL

A.I.G. business doesn't work, so nothing applies.

fact? the fact is, these people won't have a job let along the bonuses had government not paid A.I.G.

they should be grateful still being employeed. they definately don't deserve bonuses.
Grateful to be making $1 a year??

That makes sense.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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It's a good read but i feel like the last couple of paragraphs are self serving and directed at us not libby. Saying that "he doesn't know how much he can donate if we tax him". I mean I feel like here is someone who busted their ass and deserves something but at the same time he can't expect in this climate to be sure of anything, including those payments. But he said 2 things in his letter

1. That he wont disagree that financial sector has been overpaid

2. That his family will be fine

So i don't feel bad for him.

 

ProfJohn

Lifer
Jul 28, 2006
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Originally posted by: MonkeyK
How many executive VPs does AIG have that this guy never met the CEO?
Usually there are not very many executive VPs.
I think banks and financial companies are fill with people with these types of titles.

Clark Howard talked about this on his radio show. Everyone at a bank has the title Vice President because it makes them sound important and their customers want to feel they are dealing with someone important.
 

Acanthus

Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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I do feel bad for the people at AIG who accepted working for $1 a year and worked in profitable segments of the company.

I dont however feel bad for people that worked at AIGFP (and dont even work there anymore) losing their bonuses. Especially the crooks from the derivatives market that created this mess.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Especially the crooks from the derivatives market that created this mess.

Honestly, if the politicians want to scream for blood these are the names they should demand.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Balt
Regardless of how productive his sector of the company may have been, he'd still have been out of a job without the government's bailout. While I can understand his frustration at being persecuted even though he isn't part of the dirty underbelly, you have to accept a certain amount of responsibility even for things which aren't entirely your fault when you are part of a failed organization.

He was still better off after government intervention than before it. At least he got the choice to quit his job rather than simply being laid off or fired.

Did you read the letter? He's working 50-60 hours a week for $1 a year. How is he better off not being fired? 60 hours a week for health insurance isn't exactly worth it.

He has a choice, doesn't he? He can either choose to stick it out with the company and hope things work out or he can seek his employment elsewhere. Since he said he intends to donate a $700k+ check to charity, I think he can afford either of those two options.


Many of the employees have, in the past six months, turned down job offers from more stable employers

I'm sure he will. Of course, now that the Democrats own AIG, they just dumped hundreds of billions into a company that has employees quitting across the board.

Good luck finding new people to step into this mess for $1 a year.
 

MonkeyK

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May 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: MonkeyK
How many executive VPs does AIG have that this guy never met the CEO?
Usually there are not very many executive VPs.
I think banks and financial companies are fill with people with these types of titles.

Clark Howard talked about this on his radio show. Everyone at a bank has the title Vice President because it makes them sound important and their customers want to feel they are dealing with someone important.


I understand that there are usually lots of VPs, but executive VPs are typically the pool for corporate officers.

Usually:
Second VP
VP
Senior VP
Executive VP
President
 

LTC8K6

Lifer
Mar 10, 2004
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If the letter is accurate, I can see why the Senate no longer wants to talk about the situation.

Some of these folks who are totally innocent and have been shafted, are almost certainly going to sue.

They have a whopper of a case, imo.

The first demand should be for their original back pay, since the $1 salary agreement has been broken by AIG. They should be paid at the rate they were getting before, imo.

That wouldn't be a bonus, so there should be no problem paying these folks for their work.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: JACKDRUID
Originally posted by: winnar111

Grateful for being employed for $1 a year?

$1 a year now, but when/if things turn around, they get paid their regular millions.

So given that they can

A: Work elsewhere, now, and get those millions while tax rates are still reasonable
B: Take a chance on things turning around, getting $1 in salary, and dealing with people like you and Pelosi in the meantime and the stress that goes along with it, and, if all that works, get those millions after Zero hikes their tax rate


B sounds awesome.

 

Vette73

Lifer
Jul 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: JACKDRUID
Originally posted by: winnar111

Grateful for being employed for $1 a year?

$1 a year now, but when/if things turn around, they get paid their regular millions.

So given that they can

A: Work elsewhere, now, and get those millions while tax rates are still reasonable
B: Take a chance on things turning around, getting $1 in salary, and dealing with people like you and Pelosi in the meantime and the stress that goes along with it, and, if all that works, get those millions after Zero hikes their tax rate


B sounds awesome.

This guy was getting millions when AIG was being proped up with all its junk investments. he may have not been the one to pull the trigger but I bet he was more then happy to take the bonus money and profits from the stock price of their junk and not complain then.

He and all the others at AIG made more then they should have.
 
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