Airsoft Thread!!

[Ns1]

I used to be big into it, loved it, until we started participating with the community as a whole... yeah the community sucks ass and I'd rather not play than have to deal with those kind of morons.

lol that sucks. yeah there were a ton of wipers in paintball, I'd imagine airsoft is borderline pointless with people you don't know.

 

[Fritzo]

My son is getting into this crap. I've dumped like $300 on guns for him since last year. It's like crack for a 10 year old

 

[bfdd]

lol that sucks. yeah there were a ton of wipers in paintball, I'd imagine airsoft is borderline pointless with people you don't know.

Seriously Ns1 it's shitty or at least it was a few years ago. If it wasn't for the shittiness of the people who play Airsoft I'd probably still play Airsoft. Played one MILSIM game which was alright, but the hardcores don't take any noobs seriously and you'll get a ton of disrespect from people who have unjustified inflated egos. The not acknowledging getting shot thing is pretty annoying, but just don't take anyones shit and you should be ok. Though a couple brawls almost broke out because some of the MILSIM douches wouldn't call their shots because we weren't wearing military garb in a non-MILSIM game.

 

[CVSiN]

airsoft is for girls who can't handle paintball. real men play paintball. sissies play airsoft.

please.. Airsoft is used as a training tool now for both Military and Police.

MILSIM Airsoft is played with thousands of dollars of equipment (radios NVGs full uniforms and body armors and load bearing gear) that would be ruined by paintballs.
nearly everyone I played with was either active duty Police or Military and were using it to stay sharp.

All of our ops were planned extensively like Military operations by senior level NCOs that had done the same ops in Iraq and Afghanistan. The state ops covered areas of 200+ acres and 12+ hours of day or night or both cycles.. with over 200 participants at some ops,
hence the NVGs and radio gear. and If you think getting drilled by 400FPS AEGs is any less pleasant than getting drilled with paintballs.. you are mistaken. and yes its obivious when you are hit to both parties.. and playing with adult's and a organized league you will not have any issues.

We are not talking about your little 30 dollar airsoft guns they sell at Fry's or the flea market..
My 2 AEGs alone were worth over $1500 bucks. weighed and looked identical to the real steel version to the point they were illegal to have anywhere in public down to the Colt markings on the receivers.
that doesn't even count my Sidearm or our squad weps (M-60s and SAWs) that the squad usually pitched in as a whole to buy so the squad would have them.

Then you add magazines MILSIM uses simulation mags..
that means if the Real Steel wep only carries 30 bullets.. that's all you get in the mag.
so you have a vest full of mags and have to conserve ammo just as you would in real life.

The Average MILSIM Airsofter is carrying over 2500+ worth of gear on him when we play..
and that doesn't even account for NVGs for night ops. Most of us still had alot of our stuff from the Military or All of it in the cases of the active duties..
So that cuts costs alot if you are or were military and kept your go to war gear.

 

[Ns1]

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shit this is the kinda airsoft i want to play.

 

[CVSiN]

shit this is the kinda airsoft i want to play.

http://www.kapowwe.com/john-lu-bulldog-2009.html

check this out then..

Operation Bull Dog IV
Fort Hood Texas 10/2009

256 airsoft players showed up this weekend to sling bb's at the Fort Hood M.O.U.T. facility for John Lu 's Operation Bull Dog IV. It is such a privilege to skirmish on the same training facilities of the U.S. Military. John hosts this game as a charity event for the U.S. Marine Corps. This year over $5000 was raised from this single event. We took a ton of photos.

These are pics of OPs all over Texas that we go to. change op over on the left there are tons of pics.

 

[finbarqs]

WOW! That looks like a blast!

Some people go all out without mask I guess.... They'll feel it in the face big time if they get a headshot!

The main reason why I also got back into it is with the intros of GBBR...

 

[CVSiN]

WOW! That looks like a blast!

Some people go all out without mask I guess.... They'll feel it in the face big time if they get a headshot!

The main reason why I also got back into it is with the intros of GBBR...

most of us go without a mask..
just the same goggles we wear in the Military or Oakleys as long as they meet the shatterproof rules.

mask is way too restrictive. specially with boom mikes like some of the guys wear.. my whole team had Throat mikes though.

 

[bfdd]

Those are the kind of people that get incredibly butthurt when someone who doesn't take it as 100% as serious as them takes them out of a game. Seriously the MILSIM guys go over the top and get more butthurt than anyone I ever played airsoft with, most weren't even that fucking good.

 

[CVSiN]

Those are the kind of people that get incredibly butthurt when someone who doesn't take it as 100% as serious as them takes them out of a game. Seriously the MILSIM guys go over the top and get more butthurt than anyone I ever played airsoft with, most weren't even that fucking good.

then you were playing with immature posers..

and they would be flat out EJECTED from a TASO sanctioned event here in Texas.. BTW the cost of these large scale events plus the requirements (equipment and weapon mandatory requirements) keep the die hards out anyway.

we don't play that crap..

 

[bfdd]

then you were playing with immature posers..

and they would be flat out EJECTED from a TASO sanctioned event here in Texas.. BTW the cost of these large scale events plus the requirements (equipment and weapon mandatory requirements) keep the die hards out anyway.

we don't play that crap..

These were guys who participate in all the MILSIM games out here in California, people who help organize events and shit. Terrible players. To them it's all about the simulation and not about actually playing or the "combat". They were terrible players who cried more about getting shot and not being out than they did actually trying to shoot people.

BTW my friends and I weren't some noobs coming into a big game with stock TM guns or Chinese knock offs. Every single one of us had put time and money into our equipment. Built up internals, metal bodies, etc.

ROFL I remember this one time I was arguing with some dude online about V2 vs V3 gearboxes, this was years back when the G36C came out from TM, anyways he kept saying that the AK 47 was really just a V2.5 and not a V3, even though if you were to buy parts from TM or any other manufacturer at the time it was called a V3(version 3). This guy actually wanted to fight me in an Airsoft store when he met me, took it outside got in my face, then pussed out and walked away. Over him trying to be a know it all and instead making himself look like an idiot. That has been my experience with the Airsoft community in Southern California. A bunch of people who are ready to fight, but are really just a bunch of pussies.

 

[CVSiN]

These were guys who participate in all the MILSIM games out here in California, people who help organize events and shit. Terrible players. To them it's all about the simulation and not about actually playing or the "combat". They were terrible players who cried more about getting shot and not being out than they did actually trying to shoot people.

BTW my friends and I weren't some noobs coming into a big game with stock TM guns or Chinese knock offs. Every single one of us had put time and money into our equipment. Built up internals, metal bodies, etc.

ROFL I remember this one time I was arguing with some dude online about V2 vs V3 gearboxes, this was years back when the G36C came out from TM, anyways he kept saying that the AK 47 was really just a V2.5 and not a V3, even though if you were to buy parts from TM or any other manufacturer at the time it was called a V3(version 3). This guy actually wanted to fight me in an Airsoft store when he met me, took it outside got in my face, then pussed out and walked away. Over him trying to be a know it all and instead making himself look like an idiot. That has been my experience with the Airsoft community in Southern California. A bunch of people who are ready to fight, but are really just a bunch of pussies.

Wow.. I can see why you have a bad taste in your mouth.. too bad you dont live here.. it really is much better.

Sorry on behalf the MILSIM community.. we arent all like that.. Like I said down here it is alot of REAL Military and Police operators that are older.. the average age is well over 25 closer to 30..
most of us 10+ years of service.

 

[AMCRambler]

You'll shoot your eye out kid...HO HO HO!

 

[Mike Gayner]

So airsoft is the thing where you buy toy guns and pretend to shoot each other, right? Yeah I used to do this with my brother when I was 6.

 

[clamum]

Cool story Gayner (as usual). GTFO.

Never played Airsoft but I have played paintball years ago which was a lot of fun. I'm surprised at the level of sophistication of Airsoft, pretty cool. Don't know anyone who plays though.

 

[Mike Gayner]

By "sophistication" you mean that the toys look like real guns and the people take their game super seriously?

 

[finbarqs]

in design, and "simulation". It's what Military Officials, and Law Enforcement use to train now, since it's cheap to train on.

Furthermore, The guns are made to actual specification. magpul, being a manufacturer of actual guns, also make some airsoft guns in their "PTS" section.

Would you rather have light sabers and laser blasters, or would you rather have actual guns, and the team who lives, win?

You can always play COD or Counter Strike if it's too much for ya

 

[CVSiN]

in design, and "simulation". It's what Military Officials, and Law Enforcement use to train now, since it's cheap to train on.

Furthermore, The guns are made to actual specification. magpul, being a manufacturer of actual guns, also make some airsoft guns in their "PTS" section.

Would you rather have light sabers and laser blasters, or would you rather have actual guns, and the team who lives, win?

You can always play COD or Counter Strike if it's too much for ya

Mike would rather have no guns at all.. real or fake..
Prolly no video games or violent movies/TV either..

 

[jlee]

From neasg.org here...unfortunately I haven't made it to a game in over a year. :/

 

[halik]

Who sports this? Where are you guys from? What guns are you sporting?

Grown men going great lengths to dress up like professional soldiers and shoot BBs at one another? Seems like paintball for pussies to me...

I should add, from what I've seen you spent great amount of effort and time to make sure your BB guns and get up looks as realistic as possible... and then you take pictures of yourself of what you look like in uber-realistic fake navy seal get up. If it was about military tactics and simulations, the appearance part wouldn't matter at all.

FYI the armed forces use real gun with laser tag things in the barrels for training.

 

[jlee]

Grown men going great lengths to dress up like professional soldiers and shoot BBs at one another? Seems like paintball for pussies to me...

I spend far more time with real guns than I do with toys. Call me any name you like.

It's a lot of fun... I'd like to play paintball at some point, but I prefer something that actually feels like a gun, shoots like a gun, and needs magazine changes/etc instead of running around with a bunch of tubes with a big bowl of paintballs on top.

 

[halik]

I spend far more time with real guns than I do with toys. Call me any name you like.

It's a lot of fun... I'd like to play paintball at some point, but I prefer something that actually feels like a gun, shoots like a gun, and needs magazine changes/etc instead of running around with a bunch of tubes with a big bowl of paintballs on top.

I don't necessarily have a problem with that, but I take an issue with all these fools taking pictures of themselves in super-duper-acurate operator equipment and their fake bb gun, pretending to be Navy Seal or whatever special forces.

I'll post a link when i get home from work about what I'm talking about... it's literally grown men posting pictures of themselves playing soldiers.

 

[finbarqs]

if it's too "pussy", then just play a game and have FPS regulation higher... 500-600 fps... Then you'll start bleeding, and we'll see the men from the boys...

Well people taking pictures of themselves because they wanna be hollywood. But let them be what they wanna be. If actualy SEALS or special forces doesn't have a problem with that, then fine. I do believe in actual training, they put on full gear to make sure they're as fully equipped as possible, to make training an actual simulation as well.

Hence, they'll dress up in full outfits during sessions. My friend's wife is a sheriff, and though they don't use airsoft to train, they use paint bullets in front of the cartridge. They're using their guns still, but just the paint bullet. VERY EXPENSIVE to do, but will have the full reaction of a gun and recoil.

think of it this way:

would you play call of duty modern warfare, or counter strike, or even watch a movie if it's just guys wearing a t-shirt and shorts? These games/movies get dinged for missing the realism!

 

[2dt Drifter]

I have to laugh at the "these guys take this way too serious with toys". It's a sport like every other sport. It'd be like going skiing with no goggles, snow pants and coat or showing up to a bike race with your huffy and no helmet then saying "you guys take this way too serious".

I play airsoft. I co-manage a team that goes to large OPS, I also bike and ski. I have all the required gear it takes to have fun in all three sports.

Haters gotta hate on ATOT... like usual.

 

[CVSiN]

Grown men going great lengths to dress up like professional soldiers and shoot BBs at one another? Seems like paintball for pussies to me...

I should add, from what I've seen you spent great amount of effort and time to make sure your BB guns and get up looks as realistic as possible... and then you take pictures of yourself of what you look like in uber-realistic fake navy seal get up. If it was about military tactics and simulations, the appearance part wouldn't matter at all.

FYI the armed forces use real gun with laser tag things in the barrels for training.

Um last time I checked appearance and uniformity was a HUGE part of Military tactics..
its so you can identify who is in your unit as well as what company/division they are from.
and yes on large ops like this it is very needed..

various units have uniform requirements. Our unit was all Marines and Navy so we wore Marine and Navy issue gear down to the proper web gear. ( but then again almost all of us already had this gear from serving)
Army units wear Army gear..
and then there are the units that Dress as OPFOR all the time.

OPFOR units can wear any gear but usually coordinate what to wear and what weps to carry based on the OP that is taking place..
If we are dealing with an Iraq/Afghan scenario they wear what would be appropriate for that area and carry AKs and PKMs.
If we are simulating a NATO VS China or Russian based countries they wear uniforms for that country.


You are semi Mistaken on several points but rest assured Airsoft is being used for training as well as the older "lasertag" and Simunition systems you have described.

Army units as well as Marine units do come to our events as well especially like the one I posted above at Ft. Hood they have driven APCs and other heavy and light armor and trucks as well as participated as fire teams in the events.

and BTW.. very few of those outfits I posted are simulating "Special Forces" of any country most are straight up issue gear we all received while serving in normal units.

And also..
At least here in Texas we do OPs that can last up to 24 hours.. in harsh conditions out in the country.
The uniforms also provide protection from the environment as well. yes pitch black in the middle of Texas hill country on a 200+ acre wooded range.