No. You are not smart. Not only are you not smart, but you are ignorant. Please educate yourself before further posting.
Originally posted by: johnnobts
He is a hypocrite, plain and simple. Do as I say, not as I do. That's Al.
But let me tell you what really angers me about Mr. Gore, the pseudo-scientist. He says he makes up for all his jet trips and what-not by buying carbon reimbursements, or carbon registry, whatever. Its true, the secular progressives have made global warming into a religion, with sinners and saints. And Al Gore, like the Catholic church many years ago, has come up with the easy way out for the rich: Carbon credits. They are like the indulgences of the 21st century...
"Sure, my home burns 20X more energy than Joe Schmoe, but I can just buy 'forgiveness' via carbon creds. Meanwhile, since you are less important, er, I mean economically challenged, you'll just have to do the best you can with a fourescent bulb whilst I light the driveway to my home with perpetually burning natural gas. Good luck with that, now excuse me, I'm off in my private jet for skiing in Davos."
Just like the rich Catholics who could buy an indulgence and just keep on sinnning away. I don't get this. If the environmental purists, those of you who are truly super-green and Global Warming is your religion, you'd be angry at Gore too. Instead you defend him. You say, "Well he has to get around to promote the agenda." Its called the internet, he invented it right? He can just web-conference. Trust me, he's just about as enthusiastic via the internet as he is live and in person.
Of course I don't subscribe to Gore's theory of global warming. I'm telling you, 20 years from now we'll be worrying about it being too cold. Still, no one in the MSM will dare criticize Saint Gore. Two major factors impacting our planet's surface temp that the libs never want to address: Precipitation (the effect weather actually has on cooling the earth), and Solar warming.
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
So if the OP was ever a hypocrite, he shouldn't be calling Al Gore a hypocrite because that would make the OP a hypocrite... right?
I guess none of you practice what you preach either...
I'm so confused.
Gore has a choice...flying in private jets or flying commercial. He choses private jets. Is it unreasonable to expect a small personal sacrifice from Gore? After all...he is the poster boy for carbon emission reduction. If he can't do this very small thing because it may be "inconvenient" for him, then how is he not a hypocrite?Originally posted by: Skotty
Being rich is okay. Consuming more because you are rich is also okay. That's the American way. He is not a hypocrite if he consumes more than the average american eco-nut, just like the average american eco-nut is not a hypocrite for driving a Prius and living in a small house instead of riding a bicycle and living in a mud hut. He is only a hypocrite if his emissions match or exceed the average for persons of similar wealth.
As for the "invented the internet" thing people love to drag up: http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Gore has a choice...flying in private jets or flying commercial. He choses private jets. Is it unreasonable to expect a small personal sacrifice from Gore? After all...he is the poster boy for carbon emission reduction. If he can't do this very small thing because it may be "inconvenient" for him, then how is he not a hypocrite?Originally posted by: Skotty
Being rich is okay. Consuming more because you are rich is also okay. That's the American way. He is not a hypocrite if he consumes more than the average american eco-nut, just like the average american eco-nut is not a hypocrite for driving a Prius and living in a small house instead of riding a bicycle and living in a mud hut. He is only a hypocrite if his emissions match or exceed the average for persons of similar wealth.
As for the "invented the internet" thing people love to drag up: http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." - Al Gore
So, you're publically feigning some interest in labeling Gore as a hypocrite, but you ignore all of the documented benefits resulting from what he does in using that energy and all of his documented efforts to minimize the ecological impact of the energy he uses.Originally posted by: ntdz
Definition of a hypocrite:
a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
His work requires him to travel with a large group of support people to some destinations that may have little or no commercially scheduled transportation, and the fact that he is a former Vice President means that, BY LAW, his traveling group MUST include Secret Service security personnel.Originally posted by: CryHavoc
Carbon neutral my arse. Look at how he gets around from state to state promoting a carbon neutral agenda. He flies in a private jet that puts out more carbon per flight hour than your average small town.
That what the Hannites and the Limbaughtistas do!Originally posted by: Harvey
You're raising the same BS red herring the right wing media wingnuts were spewing about Pelosi's use of a private jet, and the answer's the same. It's a necessary part of the job, and some of that is mandated by law for security reasons.
Originally posted by: johnnobts
He is a hypocrite, plain and simple. Do as I say, not as I do. That's Al.
But let me tell you what really angers me about Mr. Gore, the pseudo-scientist. He says he makes up for all his jet trips and what-not by buying carbon reimbursements, or carbon registry, whatever. Its true, the secular progressives have made global warming into a religion, with sinners and saints. And Al Gore, like the Catholic church many years ago, has come up with the easy way out for the rich: Carbon credits. They are like the indulgences of the 21st century...
"Sure, my home burns 20X more energy than Joe Schmoe, but I can just buy 'forgiveness' via carbon creds. Meanwhile, since you are less important, er, I mean economically challenged, you'll just have to do the best you can with a fourescent bulb whilst I light the driveway to my home with perpetually burning natural gas. Good luck with that, now excuse me, I'm off in my private jet for skiing in Davos."
Just like the rich Catholics who could buy an indulgence and just keep on sinnning away. I don't get this. If the environmental purists, those of you who are truly super-green and Global Warming is your religion, you'd be angry at Gore too. Instead you defend him. You say, "Well he has to get around to promote the agenda." Its called the internet, he invented it right? He can just web-conference. Trust me, he's just about as enthusiastic via the internet as he is live and in person.
Of course I don't subscribe to Gore's theory of global warming. I'm telling you, 20 years from now we'll be worrying about it being too cold. Still, no one in the MSM will dare criticize Saint Gore. Two major factors impacting our planet's surface temp that the libs never want to address: Precipitation (the effect weather actually has on cooling the earth), and Solar warming.
Originally posted by: daniel49
Is Al Gore just drumming up buisness for himself by beating the global warming drum?
In essence his Carbon Credit purchases amount to buying stock in his own company.
http://www.ecotality.com/blog/?p=350
Gore helped found Generation Investment Management, through which he and others pay for offsets. The firm invests the money in solar, wind and other projects that reduce energy consumption around the globe?
Originally posted by: eskimospy
The only thing more impressive then how thoroughly the right wingers have been owned in this thread is the fact that they keep doggedly flailing against Gore.
It's sort of like Rocky 1 to be honest. Go the distance guys!
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: eskimospy
The only thing more impressive then how thoroughly the right wingers have been owned in this thread is the fact that they keep doggedly flailing against Gore.
It's sort of like Rocky 1 to be honest. Go the distance guys!
It's been absolutely delicious to watch :thumbsup:
Continuing senseamp's analysis, why does it matter whether Gore has an interest in the company he pays for his carbon offsets? He founded a company that's in the business of investing in green power. That doesn't mean he founded it to lose money. If it's profitable, he's entitled to a return on that investment and compensation for the work he does for it as chairman.Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: daniel49
Is Al Gore just drumming up buisness for himself by beating the global warming drum?
In essence his Carbon Credit purchases amount to buying stock in his own company.
http://www.ecotality.com/blog/?p=350
Did you even read what it says?
Gore helped found Generation Investment Management, through which he and others pay for offsets. The firm invests the money in solar, wind and other projects that reduce energy consumption around the globe?
So if you are claiming Gore is buying offsets from himself, then you also have to give him credit for investments in solar, wind, and other projects, which means he does offset his energy use. Of course you just want to bash him, so you fail to connect the dots.
If Bush is greener than Gore, it's only from envy. :laugh:Originally posted by: JD50
Whats even better is that George Bush is more green than Al Gore!! :laugh:
Originally posted by: Harvey
Continuing senseamp's analysis, why does it matter whether Gore has an interest in the company he pays for his carbon offsets? He founded a company that's in the business of investing in green power. That doesn't mean he founded it to lose money. If it's profitable, he's entitled to a return on that investment and compensation for the work he does for it as chairman.Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: daniel49
Is Al Gore just drumming up buisness for himself by beating the global warming drum?
In essence his Carbon Credit purchases amount to buying stock in his own company.
http://www.ecotality.com/blog/?p=350
Did you even read what it says?
Gore helped found Generation Investment Management, through which he and others pay for offsets. The firm invests the money in solar, wind and other projects that reduce energy consumption around the globe?
So if you are claiming Gore is buying offsets from himself, then you also have to give him credit for investments in solar, wind, and other projects, which means he does offset his energy use. Of course you just want to bash him, so you fail to connect the dots.
The very nature of the company's business gives them carbon offset credits they can sell on the open market. There's nothing wrong if Gore's power consumption also makes also a customer of his own company's services, as long as he pays the same rate as other customers for the credits.
Are you trying to tell us that it's illegal or unethical for execs of any company to buy their own company's goods and services? :roll:
If Bush is greener than Gore, it's only from envy. :laugh:Originally posted by: JD50
Whats even better is that George Bush is more green than Al Gore!! :laugh:
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Tab
I think there's something else we ought to be looking at besides the power consumption of Gore's mansion. He's a millionare and millionares tend to have big homes that take up a lot of juice but Gore on the otherhand is an enviormentalist. Now, I don't think Gore should be living in a mud hut but I do think there's a much better way to criticize the man. Does he leave the lights on when he's not at home? Does he leave his car running? Does he turn down the thermostat when he goes to sleep? Does his mansion use any incandescent lighting?
All in all folks, unlesss we knew a bit more about Gore there really isn't anything to see here but a bunch of mental masturbation for conservatives.
I think that the point is that many of us are fed up with the do as I say, not as I do crowd.
So basically, unless he is living in a cave and walking to and from, he can't have a message and try and raise awarness to a real problem facing our planet. Got it.
:roll: