Al Jazeera's Iraq office bombed

Alistar7

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reminds of the French embassy being "accidentally" bombed by our tired pilots in lybia, probably would not have happened had they been able to fly a more direct, time saving route.....
 

Kadarin

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From the article:

The station's Kabul office was hit by the US during the war in Afghanistan.

The Americans then insisted the attack was accidental.

Finally, we're going after the real enemy!
 

Acanthus

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they are now saying that it may have been iraqui forces attacking Al Jazeera, the US said the Al Jazeera was not targetted, but may have been hit accidentally.
 

Iwentsouth

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They were behind a machine gun position. On the live feed that there reruning you can see the shell casings flying up into there camera view.

Nice shot by the F-15.
 

drewshin

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yeah, people like dari cheering that innocent people died.

al-jazeera is only a template of what you will hopefully see more of in the arab region in the future, maybe even iraq? it shows an arab point of view, but it is one of the few stations to be critical of their governments.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: drewshin
yeah, people like dari cheering that innocent people died.

al-jazeera is only a template of what you will hopefully see more of in the arab region in the future, maybe even iraq? it shows an arab point of view, but it is one of the few stations to be critical of their governments.
Cheering, kind of like every propag...err news story that Al Jazeera puts out showing Iraq valiantly slaughtering the infidels and crusaders? They crossed the line of ethical unbiased journalism long ago. Heck I'm pretty sure they never even were anywhere near the other side of the line!

innocent sure is a suspect term, you certainly could make the argument that AJ has "taken a side" on this moreso than any other new agency out there, including the nefarious and sinister fox news.

 

justint

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: drewshin
yeah, people like dari cheering that innocent people died.

al-jazeera is only a template of what you will hopefully see more of in the arab region in the future, maybe even iraq? it shows an arab point of view, but it is one of the few stations to be critical of their governments.
Cheering, kind of like every propag...err news story that Al Jazeera puts out showing Iraq valiantly slaughtering the infidels and crusaders? They crossed the line of ethical unbiased journalism long ago. Heck I'm pretty sure they never even were anywhere near the other side of the line!

innocent sure is a suspect term, you certainly could make the argument that AJ has "taken a side" on this moreso than any other new agency out there, including the nefarious and sinister fox news.

Yeah the same Fox News whose reporters gave away future military operations on the air jeapordizing the safety of our troops? I will take Al Jazeera any day over them.

 

Dari

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Originally posted by: drewshin
yeah, people like dari cheering that innocent people died.

al-jazeera is only a template of what you will hopefully see more of in the arab region in the future, maybe even iraq? it shows an arab point of view, but it is one of the few stations to be critical of their governments.

let's not forget that this is the same al-jazeera that is vehementay anti-american. The humilation of arab/muslim forces in afghanistan and Iraq has made them the international mouthpieces of the Iraq Information Ministry, Al Qaeda and other puritans of islamic ideology. This is what they get for cozying up with Saddam Hussein's outlaw regime.
 

yowolabi

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It's funny how our precision bombs that can zero in on just about anything keep hitting news stations on accident.

It must have been someone else, we only have military targets.
 

anazoal

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They were behind a machine gun position. On the live feed that there reruning you can see the shell casings flying up into there camera view.

Nice shot by the F-15.

Yep, that was the initial analysis by Fox News. It was obvious the "casings" were concrete shards due to bullets hitting the near the camera. ....So obvious, in fact, that the Fox News anchor recanted the "shell casings" theory minutes later. Iwentsouth it's good to see how you care to post the version of the news you wanted to believe, but didn't feel like posting a correction.

BTW, who's seen a full days worth of news on Al-Jazeera? How do we know they are biased? From the 30 sec excerpts shown on TV? The problem is that we are not allowed to think critically for ourselves anymore. Does Al-Jazeera make up videos of Iraqi civilians in hospitals? How many images of war dead have you seen on TV here? Why not show reports from all perspectives and let people think for themselves... Or are we afraid of people thinking?

(BTW, an Al-Jazeera office was bombed by mistake in Afganistan as well...)
 

drewshin

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: drewshin
yeah, people like dari cheering that innocent people died.

al-jazeera is only a template of what you will hopefully see more of in the arab region in the future, maybe even iraq? it shows an arab point of view, but it is one of the few stations to be critical of their governments.

let's not forget that this is the same al-jazeera that is vehementay anti-american. The humilation of arab/muslim forces in afghanistan and Iraq has made them the international mouthpieces of the Iraq Information Ministry, Al Qaeda and other puritans of islamic ideology. This is what they get for cozying up with Saddam Hussein's outlaw regime.

of course it's some parts of their news service that is vehemently against the war and the u.s., does that make it "anti-american"? they are catering to their viewers, which news outlet doesnt? im sure if you were an arab and saw an american news broadcast, you'd be disgusted as well. also, im not sure where ive seen that they've cozied up with saddam, they might have better contacts, have more access etc. on the flip side, who would you expect to get an interview with the president, barbara walters or an al-jazeera reporter?

these reporters were just reporting the news as they saw it, and unless they were deliberately helping the iraqis, they are not our enemy.
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: drewshin
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: drewshin
yeah, people like dari cheering that innocent people died.

al-jazeera is only a template of what you will hopefully see more of in the arab region in the future, maybe even iraq? it shows an arab point of view, but it is one of the few stations to be critical of their governments.

let's not forget that this is the same al-jazeera that is vehementay anti-american. The humilation of arab/muslim forces in afghanistan and Iraq has made them the international mouthpieces of the Iraq Information Ministry, Al Qaeda and other puritans of islamic ideology. This is what they get for cozying up with Saddam Hussein's outlaw regime.

of course it's some parts of their news service that is vehemently against the war and the u.s., does that make it "anti-american"? they are catering to their viewers, which news outlet doesnt? im sure if you were an arab and saw an american news broadcast, you'd be disgusted as well. also, im not sure where ive seen that they've cozied up with saddam, they might have better contacts, have more access etc. on the flip side, who would you expect to get an interview with the president, barbara walters or an al-jazeera reporter?

these reporters were just reporting the news as they saw it, and unless they were deliberately helping the iraqis, they are not our enemy.

you don't seriously believe what you just wrote, do you?
 

anazoal

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Originally posted by: Dari

you don't seriously believe what you just wrote, do you?

The sad part is that we went to war half the way around the world, so that you could live in a free country and express an opinion like that.

 

Dari

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Originally posted by: anazoal
Originally posted by: Dari

you don't seriously believe what you just wrote, do you?

The sad part is that we went to war half the way around the world, so that you could live in a free country and express an opinion like that.

First off, I don't understand your comment. Now, let's get to what drewshin said. He said that al-jazeera was catering to their viewers. The problem with that is that there are other arab news stations that are relatively independent of their governments and they are much more impartial than al-jazeera. Second, there are western news services with local services in the middle east and the arabs there aren't disgusted by what they see. The western news outlets present a different style of journalism that the local populace isn't used to. Hell, the government supported arab stations can be just as anti-western as al-jazeera in order to appease the populace. Third, didn't saddam grant an interview with Dan Rather shortly before the invasion? IIRC, Al-Jazeera never got such an honor. Finally, the reporters, as you've mentioned earlier, are deliberatly being biased to appease the local populace. Hence, they aren't being impartial.
 

anazoal

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...there are other arab news stations that are relatively independent of their governments and they are much more impartial than al-jazeera.
What is exactly is Al Jazeera's bias? Again, what are you basing your views on? Have been to seen there news or have you even read english.aljazeera.com? Al-Jazeera show the scenes of carnage on the streets of Iraq, do you see that on CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News? No, we only see the sanitized version of the news.

Second, there are western news services with local services in the middle east and the arabs there aren't disgusted by what they see.
Like? CNN International? Of course they won't be disgusted if they see news with no death!

The western news outlets present a different style of journalism that the local populace isn't used to.
I hope they don't get to see the Fox News style of journalism. Sarcasm aside, you do have a valid point here. Al-Jazeera is the only independent Arab news service.

Finally, the reporters, as you've mentioned earlier, are deliberatly being biased to appease the local populace. Hence, they aren't being impartial
Wrong, Al-Jazeera receive funding from the state of Qatar (isn't it ironic that is the same country hosting US CenCom?), and do NOT have advertisers or a market audience to apease. Like I said earlier, they are independent -- more so than most US news services.

Hell, the government supported arab stations can be just as anti-western as al-jazeera in order to appease the populace.
Anti-US policy does NOT equate to anti-Western. Believe it or not, the people in the Arab region are not "anti-Western", but anti-US policy. This anger is directed at the policies of the US government in the region. See how "anti-war" has been construed to mean "unpatriotic" for a political purpose? Well, the same applies to "anti-US policy" being construed as "anti-Western".
 
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